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With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Nero Cain (3): 1baldeagle1, uʍop ǝpısdn, Garuda
Harakiri (2): ProHawk, Lord Mhork
Ghostly Penguin (1): BBmolla

Not Voting (6): VoidedMafia, Nero Cain, Lost Butterfly, Ghostly Penguin, Harakiri, zMuffinMan

Deadline for Day 6 is Monday, December 23rd, at 5:00am EST (site time).
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Huh i thought last time Nat posted was yesterday for some reason

~Sakura Hana

Upside Down, where you guys standing readwise

I'm fine with a massclaim, like I said earlier, but if we are going to do it, we need to do it now. We have about 9 days left, and it's good for us to have time to analyze the claims.

I'm still thinking NC is scum. Along with Molla and uwop. I feel pretty confident in this.

Don't really have anything else to say, if someone wants to talk to me about something, I'm cool with that.

*sigh*

(irrelevant to anything going on at the time of this post, but I have some catching up to do.)

In post 4597, Garuda wrote:

In post 4590, ProHawk wrote:I see no reason for scum to be governored either... auto lynch the next day. If you are going to clamor about money, look at the bids and the amounts. Money is not an issue for scum at this point.

Panic mislynch, a chance at survival when scum would otherwise die. Why not govern scum?

What does it serve to live another day when you would be essentially confirmed scum? Now if you could govern town to frame them as scum, now you are talking like a real scummer.

mhork wrote:For the first time all game I'm thinking that Nero might actually be town.

y

prohawk wrote:What does it serve to live another day when you would be essentially confirmed scum?

you don't seem to think he's confscum

In post 4598, Lord Mhork wrote:See that's what really bothers me. For the first time all game I'm thinking that Nero might actually be town. Scum sets up the endgame with a governing and then wins.

Sorry but why do you think Nero is town again?

In post 4605, ProHawk wrote:

In post 4597, Garuda wrote:

In post 4590, ProHawk wrote:I see no reason for scum to be governored either... auto lynch the next day. If you are going to clamor about money, look at the bids and the amounts. Money is not an issue for scum at this point.

Panic mislynch, a chance at survival when scum would otherwise die. Why not govern scum?

What does it serve to live another day when you would be essentially confirmed scum? Now if you could govern town to frame them as scum, now you are talking like a real scummer.

I see your point. I would be more likely to buy this bit if Nero was acting as a townie who was getting framed, though. As scum when something that equates to a fake guilty, it's usually hard to dig up the dedication to respond to it with any sort of protest because it takes a hell of a lot of effort to shake the suspicion off you and usually the gain (one more day) is marginal. As town, you're being set up, there's more frustration than Neros showing here.

I also know he's been around to respond to all of this, to fight it, to do something, but nothing. Does a townie really act this way when the game might be on the line?

i don't see myself changing my mind about nero at this point

garuda wrote:I also know he's been around to respond to all of this, to fight it, to do something, but nothing. Does a townie really act this way when the game might be on the line?

also i agree with this


if we're mass claiming today, it needs to start immediately. otherwise, fuck it.

I have 99 problems but a scum pm isn't one of them.

way to butcher that line

In post 4571, BBmolla wrote:Pass

Sorry, that's not one of your available options. Care to try again?

In post 4555, Lord Mhork wrote:VOTE: Harakiri

I find the no submit + tiny auctions + trying to incriminate LB more scummy than Nero at this particular moment. This is my theory unless someone can prove LB scum.

Hara over Nero?

In post 4581, Garuda wrote:It was your work to do in the first place; interested in seeing your response.

No it isn't?

In post 4577, Lost Butterfly wrote:Also, because I'm terrible at this game and might have saved baldeagle-scum by starting a counterwagon on someone I'd second-guessed myself out of thinking was confirmed town.

Huh?

In post 4589, Ghostly Penguin wrote:If people don't want to mass claim I'm good with lynching Nero Cain.

This should be a thing. Here, I'll do it regardless of whether or not it's been started already.

I have nothing. I've had nothing since I used EV N3.

In post 4595, Garuda wrote:Do you really think scumhunting is gonna be like "oh damn I forgot to submit for the night kill last night" when it ends up going for a dollar?

That would be a sad way to get caught (as believable as it is). I think that the mod error makes it more on the town side than scum side.

In post 4593, ProHawk wrote:See... you and someone else has put out the theme "Why would we do this when people have called us town" thing. Well, thinking about it you COULDN'T have kept quiet over who you neighborized because you CLAIMED to have won it. As scum you know that it is both advantageous to neighborize the other team as well as how scummy it would look if you just claimed to have not neighborized anyone/not said anything about your neighborhood. Therefore you had to claim. Then came the bussing and all of that to help people not think you were both scum.

Why did you think they were town? I absolutely think they are scum.

So you're saying that scum held onto the N0 NK until N4 at the earliest, found Hara-Left (or w/e side), then neighborized them N5?

In post 4612, zMuffinMan wrote:way to butcher that line

I don't even know what line he's butchering. Halp?

Because it makes brilliant sense for scum to set up Nero like this. All they have to do is govern him and then plant suggestions that it might have been to save scum.

I think a Nero lynch is probably the most suboptimal at this point. We should take Harakiri first. Or lynch from the pool of 'Hey clearly scum would govern one of their own.'

Seriously. Why would they waste it on Nero. He's a terrible player. They can afford to have lost one. Yet they governed him. Why? Because it sets up the perfect endgame. Force a Nero lynch through because no one thinks twice about it. I mean I've been calling for him all game and only now people express interest. It stinks.

In post 4614, Lord Mhork wrote:Force a Nero lynch through because no one thinks twice about it. I mean I've been calling for him all game and only now people express interest. It stinks.

He's been on the lynchplate since, like, Day . The only time he arguably wasn't was Day 4 (and I don't think I ever understood why Aces got lynched).

No. No he hasn't. It's just been me saying that he's scum and everyone ignoring. Probably because scum was setting up an endgame. Prolly because scum saw more viable mislynches and this town really isn't doing much.

So yeah. There are better targets. We're not losing because of this play.

In post 4614, Lord Mhork wrote:Because it makes brilliant sense for scum to set up Nero like this. All they have to do is govern him and then plant suggestions that it might have been to save scum.

I think a Nero lynch is probably the most suboptimal at this point. We should take Harakiri first. Or lynch from the pool of 'Hey clearly scum would govern one of their own.'

Seriously. Why would they waste it on Nero. He's a terrible player. They can afford to have lost one. Yet they governed him. Why? Because it sets up the perfect endgame. Force a Nero lynch through because no one thinks twice about it. I mean I've been calling for him all game and only now people express interest. It stinks.

I'm sorry but when the best reason for calling someone town is the fact that he was , I'm not going to be convinced even a little teeny tiny bit.

BUT THAT GOVERNING VIRTUALLY ASSURES HIS MISLYNCH FOR THE LYLO WIN

CAN YOU NOT SEE WHY THAT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO SCUM TO DO

You cannot honestly be this dense.

Voided: why shouldn't it be eagles work?

I agree with the mod error bit but I might be a bit biased since harakiri has been town as fuck for a while

Tell me one more time why scum wouldn't govern one of their own

When if they DON'T govern their own, they DON'T get a deadline panic mislynch

And Nero votes eagle. Did anyone else find that sketchy? Yeah everyone flashed away from it, but do you really think Nero scum thought people would follow his vote? Or wait, is it more directing vote shenanigans

And what thefuck has he done that seems vaguely townish? Or are we just not looking at his play anymore because he got governed and that makes him confirmed town?

I thought I saw pangs of towniness yesterday, but not enough. I wanna lynch eagle today, Nacho.