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Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:47 am**

So, where the hell is everyone??

-Cerb

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:24 am**

VOTE: Parliament

I believe this is our best option

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:45 am**

In post 4540, Purple Heart wrote:A. As soon as this phase is over, we naked vote ASAP Baku.
B. We then do the same with Gamma as soon as the next day starts
C. We keep on doing this until there is 1 wolf remaining, then we just stop because at that point Titan because useless.

this phrasing concerns me actually. Specifically step 3: if you really believe Bee's reads were right why doesn't step 3 say "Titan is useless at this point"?

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:52 am**

In post 4582, Iconeum wrote:I did solve the riddle, only it was already night. I gave a fair warning that I'd not have time during the weekend (I never do) to actually solve it. No PT with Chara.

The mod received
every single answer
posted here when I had the actual time, and it was indeed Varsoon Variety Hour (guessed by no other then Chara).

I was/am in fact opposed to 'simply' solving all those puzzles and riddles. I always had a feeling that there would be no IC declared today, as I mentioned multiple times in the Skybird PT. I also said there that I'd want to be lynching Chara today, but it might not actually be the best move because obv third party.

Chara has been lying all game long here. Is anyone actually surprised that might have happened again?
If you think Chara is third party, how can it be declared IC?

----

I'm fine with either Titan or Parliament.
Titan is a safer and valueble option, while Parliament is a high risk-high reward strategy depending on who is picked for the PT.

It's been 2 nights, and we've only had 1 person die each night.

If

Chara

is a 3p, which I'm reserving a stance on that right now, I'm not lynching him before the wolves that are hiding in plain sight.

Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4540, Purple Heart wrote:A. As soon as this phase is over, we naked vote ASAP Baku.
B. We then do the same with Gamma as soon as the next day starts
C. We keep on doing this until there is 1 wolf remaining, then we just stop because at that point Titan because useless.
this phrasing concerns me actually. Specifically step 3: if you really believe Bee's reads were right why doesn't step 3 say "Titan is useless at this point"?

Um.... Because if there's 1 wolf left, they don't need night talk in the first place?

I can't even take your

"suspicious-posts"

seriously anymore.

~~~

If people are that uncertain about the direction this game should go, then

Parliament

may be the better overall option; but

Titan

is a DIRECT help to the town while

Parliament

depends on how the information we gain is used.

That's the most concise my thoughts are at the moment. Logistically, to me, it is smarter to go with a town-power that 100% works without fallacy.

~ Taly

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:59 am**

To me, the game has one objective, and only one of those options DIRECTLY helps with that objective.

So, parliament!

-Cerb

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:04 am**

In post 4604, Reasonably Rational wrote:To me, the game has one objective, and only one of those options DIRECTLY helps with that objective.

So, parliament!

-Cerb

The other option could net us conftown if players confirm as piloting.

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:08 am**

In post 4605, Titus wrote:
In post 4604, Reasonably Rational wrote:To me, the game has one objective, and only one of those options DIRECTLY helps with that objective.

So, parliament!

-Cerb
The other option could net us conftown if players confirm as piloting.

Titus, your moonlogic is showing.

:p if Chara had ic'd yesterday, I would agree, have everyone claim to them, and then use that information to coordinate actions ro determine who didn't have something to pilot, as well as getting all the town to agree to pilot.

Unfortunately, that didn't happen, and we're not going to realistically gain the knowledge necessary to make that valuable.

-Cerb

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:04 am**

In post 4603, Purple Heart wrote:Um.... Because if there's 1 wolf left, they don't need night talk in the first place?

Then why say "we keep doing this" if you think those lynches whittle it down to one wolf?

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:05 am**

In post 4605, Titus wrote:
In post 4604, Reasonably Rational wrote:To me, the game has one objective, and only one of those options DIRECTLY helps with that objective.

So, parliament!

-Cerb
The other option could net us conftown if players confirm as piloting.

this is a thought I had, we could conf town or scum if someone has an ability that only works on suits or only fails on suits

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:22 am**

For the record, I myself have a method I could use to confirm who is in a suit or not, but it requires more information about what abilities people have in suits than I possess. Which is why I said I'd support that plan, IF we had someone everyone was willing to full claim to, so I could claim the mechanics of what I could do to them, and they could get everyone elses info and let me know if it would work. :-/

-Cerb

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:39 am**

Gundam now? So does the theme change every day?

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:43 am**

In post 4610, SnarkySnowman wrote:Gundam now? So does the theme change every day?

Oh Snarky.

How many of the posts in this game have you read?

-Cerb

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:59 am**

In post 4595, Reasonably Rational wrote:
@Varsoon: For Parliament: How long will the PT remain open? Will individuals be able to post in it post-death? Is it available both day and night?

The Parliament at Dakar Stratagem PT would have Daychat and Nightchat, but would otherwise function like a regular PT created by this theme's mechanics--players who are dead would not be able to post in it and the PT will close if the theme ever stops being Gundam Mafia.

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:01 am**

In post 4597, Reasonably Rational wrote:
@Varsoon: Will the composition of the Parliament be affected by anything which would change investigate results? For example, if a role existed for the town which stated they were considered a member of the scum faction for all purposes other than win condition, would that slot be able to be placed into that PT and occupy the "scum" slot? In short, is it possible for the PT to be composed of 4 slots aligned with the town, or would that be considered mod lying as far as you're concerned?

I'd consider that to be a moderator lie, as the Parliament at Dakar Stratagem specifies that it includes at least one player with a scum alignment.

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:11 pm**

Due to not having a post on-site in the last 5 days, I've become concerned about Venmar's activity.
Rules as written, a player shouldn't receive a prod until at least 48 hours of not posting in a single game Day--however, given the nature of the Stratagem phase, I feel it would be unfair for any player to absolutely miss this part of the game.
I'm putting out a prod on Venmar--if they don't respond to that prod within the next 24 hours, I'll be looking for a replacement for the slot.
In the meantime, the deadline for the Stratagem phase will be paused until Venmar returns or until I find a replacement for the slot.
While this does remove some of the intended deadline pressure of the mechanic, having an inactive slot is more harmful to the integrity of the game.
I suggest using this time to further familiarize yourselves with the updated game mechanics (in the opening posts) as well as continue play.

Posted: **Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:06 pm**

VOTE: Parliament

Posted: **Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:12 am**

totally didnt forget i hadnt posted yet soz guys

Posted: **Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:14 am**

In post 4609, Reasonably Rational wrote:For the record, I myself have a method I could use to confirm who is in a suit or not, but it requires more information about what abilities people have in suits than I possess. Which is why I said I'd support that plan, IF we had someone everyone was willing to full claim to, so I could claim the mechanics of what I could do to them, and they could get everyone elses info and let me know if it would work. :-/

-Cerb

i could PT claim to you and then use that to clear me?

Posted: **Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:17 am**

sorry guys its hard for me to care about this gmae when i've basically been false guiltied based on Maid Cafe's BS over the shining dreamers hammer and getting unlucky on timings of my actions. btw if you look at when shiro started posting again it was not long before i submitted the PTs.

Posted: **Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:59 am**

I am listening if cookies are available. I am a cheap date.

Posted: **Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:36 am**

I'm also listening man.

Calling it a fake guilty isn't very helpful though. You haven't even interacted with it at all other than to say that. I've outlined the only scenarios that fit what happened, and you haven't actually responded to any of that either, even though some of those scenarios DO exonerate you.

-Cerb

Posted: **Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:15 am**

In post 4618, baku and munna wrote:sorry guys its hard for me to care about this gmae when i've basically been false guiltied based on Maid Cafe's BS over the shining dreamers hammer and getting unlucky on timings of my actions. btw if you look at when shiro started posting again it was not long before i submitted the PTs.

lol

Posted: **Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:16 am**

VOTE: Parliament

Posted: **Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:20 am**

In post 4604, Reasonably Rational wrote:To me, the game has one objective, and only one of those options DIRECTLY helps with that objective.

So, parliament!

-Cerb

Elaborate; we need to unify on a decision soon.

In post 4607, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4603, Purple Heart wrote:Um.... Because if there's 1 wolf left, they don't need night talk in the first place?
Then why say "we keep doing this" if you think those lynches whittle it down to one wolf?

1)

What do you mean by us saying

"we keep doing this"

?

Alisae

and I have made our opinions and thoughts on the gamestate a bit clear. Plus, I was responding to your response on an

Alisae

post.

2)

Titan

prevents scum from working coherently with each other consistently, versus

Parliament

which could potentially help town. I'm bringing my thoughts on both here.

In post 4618, baku and munna wrote:sorry guys its hard for me to care about this gmae when i've basically been false guiltied based on Maid Cafe's BS over the shining dreamers hammer and getting unlucky on timings of my actions. btw if you look at when shiro started posting again it was not long before i submitted the PTs.

There's plenty of other content aside from you wanting to defend yourself from

Maid Cafe's

fake-guilty, you know, the person who died last night...

What are your thoughts on the Strategems?

Any read developments

post-Almost50's

flip?

~~~

P-Edit

I literally was thinking about voting

Parliament

but

Alisae

beat me to it.

Despite how tempting

Titan

would be,

Parliament

does give valuable information for the town.

~ Taly

Posted: **Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:21 am**

It’s been 12 hours and scum has already come up with a bullshit case on me -_- based on shitty NKA nonetheless

Did it not occur to you that Thor could have simply hidden behind espe

Furthermore, do you really think that I would be stupid enough to kill Thor as scum tonight...or if my teammates would let me...come on

In the large theme I am currently designing, there are a lot of wifom opportunities for scum...why, because good scum makes things as WIFOMy as possible

In fact, thor dying in a game where I had strict reads and most townread me suggests one thing...somebody is trying to frame me

I have been working with my group on a revised read list that I will post once I get home...changing it by taking into consideration the flips while remembering that at least some of my reads are right...Scum is trying to discredit me...I hope that most of you don’t fall for it

(My reads and vote coming this evening once I am back on a computer)

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