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In post 4598, petapan wrote:i hate to feel like i am confirmation biasing but harley the confidence with which you are putting out reads on very little evidence cannot help but strike me as informed

I get accused of this all the time. I once said to a player, I’m glad they didn’t miselim you but they totally fooled me because that player flipped scum, so I just have very confident reads on some players. More often then not, they turn out to be correct.

I’m really struggling to get my head into this game and I don’t forsee that changing, so I’m not going to fight being left behind. I know it’s wrong but I’m okay with my decision since I’m not going to convince enough people that they’re wrong. It seems that I’m just going to be a question mark in most people’s minds and if I were to cross, I’d at some point be in jeopardy of being the game losing miselim, so I feel it’s probably best to flip me sooner than later.

In post 4568, Toogeloo wrote:We should do a Kingmaker.

One person whom (most) everyone believes is 100% town, decides the order of who crosses and who gets left behind.

So then who would you personally want to be MASTER OF CROSSINGS? (imo you're perceived as too scummy to do it yourself and I doubt you'd disagree with that)


And if you were theoretically promoted to Hand of Crossings if I remember correctly you're not fans of Saber & peta - do you think they're particularly likely to be scum together, or would you be fine with your MASTER leaving just one of them uncrossed to hit what they thought a more likely scum grouping would be? I'm also interested in any spicy panda takes you have under that fuzz

Also Gypyx should not cross, he’s currently my strongest sr.

In post 4602, Gammagooey wrote:And if you were theoretically promoted to Hand of Crossings if I remember correctly you're not fans of Saber & peta - do you think they're particularly likely to be scum together, or would you be fine with your MASTER leaving just one of them uncrossed to hit what they thought a more likely scum grouping would be? I'm also interested in any spicy panda takes you have under that fuzz

I'd prefer not to say anything unless I am made Master Commander. Since that seems extremely unlikely, then I don't need to say anything at all and will just wait until the town leaders that most certainly aren't scum decide for me.

In post 4604, Toogeloo wrote:

In post 4602, Gammagooey wrote:And if you were theoretically promoted to Hand of Crossings if I remember correctly you're not fans of Saber & peta - do you think they're particularly likely to be scum together, or would you be fine with your MASTER leaving just one of them uncrossed to hit what they thought a more likely scum grouping would be? I'm also interested in any spicy panda takes you have under that fuzz

I'd prefer not to say anything unless I am made Master Commander. Since that seems extremely unlikely, then I don't need to say anything at all and will just wait until the town leaders that most certainly aren't scum decide for me.

Uuugh
What if you make yourself intentionally hard to read tho

HQ, I do like your Dunn analysis, but I kinda see more from you as well

Let’s start with this
What do you think of my actions and rationale during the first part of event 2?

In post 4605, Gammagooey wrote:

In post 4604, Toogeloo wrote:

In post 4602, Gammagooey wrote:And if you were theoretically promoted to Hand of Crossings if I remember correctly you're not fans of Saber & peta - do you think they're particularly likely to be scum together, or would you be fine with your MASTER leaving just one of them uncrossed to hit what they thought a more likely scum grouping would be? I'm also interested in any spicy panda takes you have under that fuzz

I'd prefer not to say anything unless I am made Master Commander. Since that seems extremely unlikely, then I don't need to say anything at all and will just wait until the town leaders that most certainly aren't scum decide for me.

Uuugh
What if you

didn't

make yourself intentionally hard to read tho

actually I wanna follow up on this toog

I generally consider myself decent at mafia - not awesome, but above average b/c I think the average is . My reads generally get goodish by mid/lategame but I can get hung up on people who are just being obstinate and are either tunneling really hard on what I think is a bad elim without considering why they could be wrong or people who just won't answer people's questions about their thoughts so people can actually read them.

The one thing in mafia I DO think I'm top-notch at is making games . The 'Pick someone and they choose everything' idea is fine in theory, but it's not actually what we're voting on in-game, and you aren't committed enough to your own idea to even vote for a nominee for it.
I've only been here like a week so far and I think the game would probably be more fun for me personally with like 3 day deadlines so we could speed out most of the decisions and just enjoy the events, which at least seems close to what your ideal of the game would be. Can you at least vote someone for the first crossing so that the game has a better chance of functioning and we have less of a chance of dealing with a half week of waiting followed by a dumb clusterfuck of "oh this person's town enough to cross but I don't want them to cross yet" and everyone getting hung up on their absolute favorite order?

In post 4556, ulyana wrote:

In post 4551, SirCakez wrote:just because you appear to be game solving doesn't mean anything

okay how are you determining that i 'appear to be solving' as opposed to 'am solving'

I don't know if it's real or not, that's not the crux of my argument

In post 4557, Harley Quinn wrote:None of that is AI for me. Both you and Skitter are sr me for really bad reasons. Your reads have more nuance than hers but still.

how are they not AI?

In post 4558, ulyana wrote:

In post 4553, SirCakez wrote:iirc Gamma and Peta found you suspicious

i addressed petapan about this at some length and gamma emerald has not voiced that recently (until just now)? and when gamma did we also talked about that at length, so?

sorry I am conflating the Blue PT and main thread in my head

In post 4575, Taly wrote:I'm wondering why the

Toog

scumreads are still present. They've played nothing like they were pre-duel.

a. they feel the same to me IMO
b. POE

In post 4595, petapan wrote:

In post 4553, SirCakez wrote:iirc Gamma and Peta found you suspicious

i had very vocally changed my stance since then, though

yes I was looking backwards not forwards

I thought Gypyx was townie earlier but idk now that's why I think they should just be left - we can clear out the LHF

people should just vote someone to cross or this is going to take forever

VOTE: peta
Yeah let’s just do this rn

In post 4612, SirCakez wrote:people should just vote someone to cross or this is going to take forever

cakez why are you so insistent on rushing everything when it's clear that making hasty decisions led us down a bad path last event and you yourself have expressed difficulty with your reads this game

In post 4613, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: peta
Yeah let’s just do this rn

i would appreciate it if, at the absolute bare minimum, you would give me an opportunity to reread like i have publicly expressed that i want to before pushing a vote that may prove fatal to me

<insert one person from the bottom>
SirCakez
Toogeloo
Peta
Taly
Ydrasse
Dwlee99
Gamma Emerald

ulyana
Harley Quinn
skitter30
Gypyx
Gammagooey

I started rereading from event start and then town binned people occasionally and got to this point at page 179. Thoughts?

I also ordered the top list in terms of order I think we should cross with. So feel free to discuss that

UNVOTE:

I'm really torn between including Harley or ulyana in the top list. I feel good about letting skitter / Gypyx/ gammagooey dying

That’s about what I expected from you, Dwlee.

In post 4604, Toogeloo wrote:

In post 4602, Gammagooey wrote:And if you were theoretically promoted to Hand of Crossings if I remember correctly you're not fans of Saber & peta - do you think they're particularly likely to be scum together, or would you be fine with your MASTER leaving just one of them uncrossed to hit what they thought a more likely scum grouping would be? I'm also interested in any spicy panda takes you have under that fuzz

I'd prefer not to say anything unless I am made Master Commander. Since that seems extremely unlikely, then I don't need to say anything at all and will just wait until the town leaders that most certainly aren't scum decide for me.

feel free to suit yourself but i would recommend, if you are town, not completely surrendering your agency in this phase

In post 4614, petapan wrote:cakez why are you so insistent on rushing everything when it's clear that making hasty decisions led us down a bad path last event and you yourself have expressed difficulty with your reads this game

I want to get the process moving is all because we have to do like ~8 of these? and we're giving more time for scum to manipulate things

and I don't think last phase was rushed anyways - I don't really see a world where Infinity was not the elim there

As for my plan, you’ll have to wait a couple hours most likely

In post 4620, SirCakez wrote:and I don't think last phase was rushed anyways - I don't really see a world where Infinity was not the elim there

Perhaps

What was the pink final votecount again? I'm pretty sure someone posted it but I have no memory of who

In post 4603, Harley Quinn wrote:Also Gypyx should not cross, he’s currently my strongest sr.

based on what