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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:41 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 4572, Bell wrote:You said they were lying when they weren’t.
They’re town. You made an assumption they didn’t crumb. You thought that it was an actual claim that scum would choose to make.
Are you saying that I was wrong or that it makes me mafia?
And to be clear, I don't believe that I was wrong with what I had to work with, nor do I believe that making Dwlee claim was the wrong move.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:41 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
Because Pooky looks way better and Frog looks like comfortable wolf.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:42 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 4599, ProfessorDrapion wrote: In post 4593, Dunnstral wrote: In post 4571, Roden wrote: In post 4560, Dunnstral wrote: In post 4548, Bell wrote:The issue isn’t that he pushed to claim in retrospect, it was that they were scum reading them post claim without thinking through the downsides of claiming Mason D1 as scum.
I too am in the I dunno if dunnstral scum is this silly about a d1 claim.
You need to work on your comprehension here. I didn't say that Roden was scum, I said that he was lying about his claim and gave reasoning. I also gave reasoning for why I thought he was lying about his claim. I
also
gave reasoning for why it was beneficial for him to finish the claim even if he was telling the truth. And it was beneficial; Roden admits they never made that crumb.
???
Are you saying that you thought I was town lying about being Masons? Why push me to claim further then?
3) I believe that once you had claimed mason, you had to have your partner claim either the same day or the day after. In both cases, mafia can kill both masons.
.
So one of the reasons you pushed him was because of salt?
No, it wasn't. I'm not sure how you are interpreting what I said in that way.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:42 pm
by Roden
In post 4593, Dunnstral wrote: In post 4571, Roden wrote: In post 4560, Dunnstral wrote: In post 4548, Bell wrote:The issue isn’t that he pushed to claim in retrospect, it was that they were scum reading them post claim without thinking through the downsides of claiming Mason D1 as scum.
I too am in the I dunno if dunnstral scum is this silly about a d1 claim.
You need to work on your comprehension here. I didn't say that Roden was scum, I said that he was lying about his claim and gave reasoning. I also gave reasoning for why I thought he was lying about his claim. I
also
gave reasoning for why it was beneficial for him to finish the claim even if he was telling the truth. And it was beneficial; Roden admits they never made that crumb.
???
Are you saying that you thought I was town lying about being Masons? Why push me to claim further then?
No that's not exactly what I'm saying. I didn't push for you to claim because of a scumread, I pushed for you to claim because:
1) I believe the mechanics of the setup would punish us for staggering the claims
2) I believed it was possible that you were lying based on comparing how you treated other people. I still don't understand why you were not town reading your mason partner in your 1 post where you mention them. Do you not understand how that can cause problems further into the game?
3) I believe that once you had claimed mason, you had to have your partner claim either the same day or the day after. In both cases, mafia can kill both masons.
I'll end this by saying that I don't think masons are nearly as important as they are being made out to be, nor do I think that making the
second
person claim here is what is going to cause a mason to die. We probably have stronger roles in this game, and just knowing that you two are claiming mason narrows things down.
If you didn't think I'm scum then what is the pro-town reason for pushing a Mason claim and trying to out the other Mason?
And why would I town read my Mason partner? Dwlee and I had similar activity, it'd just look scummy or obvious that we knew each other's alignment if I town read them when we weren't interacting with each other or posting much. Do you not think that would stand out even a little bit?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:42 pm
by MathBlade
In post 4594, Roden wrote:Maybe I'll just read Math's ISO
Nevermind he already has over 200 posts...
90% (hyperbole) is either trying to get town to talk with each other or having to defend myself from illogical bullshit
If I try to start conversation people say I am scum and vicious cycle.
What is your and Dwlee’s PoE?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:43 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
Regardless of Math’s alignment.
Pooky’s still town for me.
Like their push on Math regardless doesn’t feel like any scum agenda but rather town pushing someone because they believe them to be wolf.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:43 pm
by Roden
I town read Galron, and I don't think you've done anything particularly scummy, so you're likely town.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:44 pm
by Dwlee99
Neither of us have even read a quarter of the game math lmao
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:44 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 4605, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Regardless of Math’s alignment.
Pooky’s still town for me.
Like their push on Math regardless doesn’t feel like any scum agenda but rather town pushing someone because they believe them to be wolf.
Pooky is capable of pushing people as scum
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:45 pm
by Dwlee99
Pooky not pushing the hell out of frog is the suspicious part. They have in their ISO that frog is obviously scum and then it disappears (cause distancing?)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:45 pm
by MathBlade
I’ve maybe done a quarter before I replaced in if that.
I feel pretty drowned.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:45 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 4600, Dunnstral wrote: In post 4572, Bell wrote:You said they were lying when they weren’t.
They’re town. You made an assumption they didn’t crumb. You thought that it was an actual claim that scum would choose to make.
Are you saying that I was wrong or that it makes me mafia?
And to be clear, I don't believe that I was wrong with what I had to work with, nor do I believe that making Dwlee claim was the wrong move.
Why did you even push the damn Mason in the first place?
I stayed on Math, you know, a beneficial info execution that helps us.
If your telling me that mason push helps us in any way, claim wolf.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:45 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 4603, Roden wrote:If you didn't think I'm scum then what is the pro-town reason for pushing a Mason claim and trying to out the other Mason?
You are misunderstanding; Bell claimed that I was moving goalposts, I went back and pointed out that I wasn't actually arguing that you had to be scum to make claiming correct here. Never did I say "Roden needs to claim, because I think he is scum".
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:45 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4608, Dwlee99 wrote: In post 4605, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Regardless of Math’s alignment.
Pooky’s still town for me.
Like their push on Math regardless doesn’t feel like any scum agenda but rather town pushing someone because they believe them to be wolf.
Pooky is capable of pushing people as scum
very true
but math is scum
just read his iso dwlee
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:46 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 4611, ProfessorDrapion wrote: In post 4600, Dunnstral wrote: In post 4572, Bell wrote:You said they were lying when they weren’t.
They’re town. You made an assumption they didn’t crumb. You thought that it was an actual claim that scum would choose to make.
Are you saying that I was wrong or that it makes me mafia?
And to be clear, I don't believe that I was wrong with what I had to work with, nor do I believe that making Dwlee claim was the wrong move.
Why did you even push the damn Mason in the first place?
I stayed on Math, you know, a beneficial info execution that helps us.
If your telling me that mason push helps us in any way, claim wolf.
I did not know that Roden was a mason when I voted for him.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:46 pm
by Dwlee99
If Math is scum Pooky is bussing lol
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:46 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4609, Dwlee99 wrote:Pooky not pushing the hell out of frog is the suspicious part. They have in their ISO that frog is obviously scum and then it disappears (cause distancing?)
the only scumgame i've seen frog play is infernal affairs and he doesn't look like that
granted he also doesnt look like his town games so it's kind of whack
i feel more confident on mathblade
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:47 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
In post 4609, Dwlee99 wrote:Pooky not pushing the hell out of frog is the suspicious part. They have in their ISO that frog is obviously scum and then it disappears (cause distancing?)
Maybe.
It’s like I think Frog is always better and always execute Frog before Pooky in all cases as there is allot of worlds Frog is wolf and in allot of those worlds, I don’t see Pooky with them.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:47 pm
by MathBlade
In post 4611, ProfessorDrapion wrote: In post 4600, Dunnstral wrote: In post 4572, Bell wrote:You said they were lying when they weren’t.
They’re town. You made an assumption they didn’t crumb. You thought that it was an actual claim that scum would choose to make.
Are you saying that I was wrong or that it makes me mafia?
And to be clear, I don't believe that I was wrong with what I had to work with, nor do I believe that making Dwlee claim was the wrong move.
Why did you even push the damn Mason in the first place?
I stayed on Math, you know, a beneficial info execution that helps us.
If your telling me that mason push helps us in any way, claim wolf.
Except let’s go with your faulty premise I am scum.
I am never a good info elim.
If you believe I am scum you elim me because you think that.
When I am scum (not here) I am an excellent strategist and make moves accordingly. An info elim is never something I am.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:47 pm
by Roden
In post 4612, Dunnstral wrote: In post 4603, Roden wrote:If you didn't think I'm scum then what is the pro-town reason for pushing a Mason claim and trying to out the other Mason?
You are misunderstanding; Bell claimed that I was moving goalposts, I went back and pointed out that I wasn't actually arguing that you had to be scum to make claiming correct here. Never did I say "Roden needs to claim, because I think he is scum".
You literally accused me of fake claiming and cased me
Wtf are you talking about
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:48 pm
by Dunnstral
3856,
3861,
3943
You should read these posts
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:49 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
No.
Dude I’m gonna be real for a second with you.
Go back I think 40 or so pages or ISO Frog.
Frog called Math Town and voted Math because “Math wants it” his words not mine. When Math didn’t.
His motivation for the vote was bad.
Meanwhile Pooky has had a Townie mindset in regards to the Math push this entire time.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:50 pm
by MathBlade
VOTE: Klick
Can someone explain Klick TRs?
I am talking with C&G and we agree on Klick being possible scum.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:51 pm
by ProfessorDrapion
You leaving at Frog makes me think you and frog be wolves.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:51 pm
by MathBlade
In post 4621, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
No.
Dude I’m gonna be real for a second with you.
Go back I think 40 or so pages or ISO Frog.
Frog called Math Town and voted Math because “Math wants it” his words not mine. When Math didn’t.
His motivation for the vote was bad.
Meanwhile Pooky has had a Townie mindset in regards to the Math push this entire time.
There’s no mindset.
It’s repeatedly spamming I am scum repeatedly anytime he can.
Pooky should be spelled “Broken Record”