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Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:44 pm**

I'm off to bed.

I'll check the thread for my civic duty Thursday afternoon at the earliest. That's if surgery goes swimmingly.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:45 pm**

ok here goes

Titus: Town
RChana: Town
SS: Town

Kats: MasonClaim
LLD: MasonClaim

Gameplay: vprobtown

Croag: probtown

Dannflor: Null

HH: Scummy

DDL: VScummy
CS: VScummy

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:47 pm**

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:47 pm**

CS's self description of having'amazing reads' is really weird and makes me think that they were scum hardbussing and trying to deepwolf.
the fact that they spent the whole game pushing rce and DDL and not really anyone else (and also correctly called CW bad, even if townie bad) is ehh

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:48 pm**

I think I've been stuck on overly restrictive gamestate ideas as opposed to just lynching the players from scummiest to least scummy since the LE mislynch and it hasn't helped my reads.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:49 pm**

In post 4621, Tana and Ephraim wrote:VOTE: CS
VOTE: DDL

i think this is it.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:53 pm**

In post 1930, Cafe Stile wrote:I'm townreading Eva so I'm not outing it
And she knows that
Croag isn't playing

A neighbourhood for scum is literally a golden pocketing opportunity and not only she didn't do that, she threw it away

- Hideri

In post 1931, Cafe Stile wrote:Like maybe she thinks we're not worth it to pocket, which *shrug*
But it's tinfoil I'm not dealing with today

- Hideri

also this is a bullshit read and reeks of tmi.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:53 pm**

idk do i really want to case things right now

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:56 pm**

In post 3043, Cafe Stile wrote:Tana this is gonna flip town and y'all gonna hafta realize her wagon has probably 2+ wolves and one wolf is literally afk ok

- Hideri

In post 3049, Cafe Stile wrote:sorry i know you can't accept the fact that people who can detach themselves from the game can have insanely good reads rc

yeah just, i don't think either of these two are the type of people either to have reads so good that they never pushed on town d1 nor to be self-aware of that fact even if they were.
i think their reads the entire game have been bullshit. with the way they're claiming to generate reads i don't think they end up having perfect d1 reads essentially
also, we've lynched the lowest common denominator so far and it's worked and i'm kinda tempted to just continue lynching up which means killing DDL and CS.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:58 pm**

whereas them saying 'aite guys ima deepwolf this shiznit', only pushing their buddies, and making a bunch of self aware posts about being super confident in their reads because they "dont confbias" makes a lot of sense.
they're also tonally awful. and their flip strongly points to DDL as well.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:03 pm**

In post 1645, DrDolittle wrote:Unless Eventide claims Clark Kent and can cop+autovig + revive a dead townie. I'm probably not unvoting here today. Most of her reads/votes are so terrible (e.g. one on Croag when there's so much action; the one on Dann that didn't make any sense, and as soon as dann response, she doesn't talk anymore), but this one takes the cake: there was like 1 or 2 votes on Bitmap + Dannflor was not instigating anything and telling everyone to calm down + needs a Bitmap Dann scumteam, which each by itself is relatively unlikely. I don't even know what to say about it.

i think that defining your unvote condition by a claim (which is effectively nai) is scummy and shows that you're not actually reading for alignment.

In post 1680, DrDolittle wrote:HH I want to ask you about RCE-scum

In post 1684, DrDolittle wrote:I don't understand your scum read on him. Looping back to your ISO, if I'm interpreting correctly
1 - RCE states the obvious (titus defends herself), or is applying faulty logic (townreading you for scumreading him)
3 - RCE brings up stuff from log time ago.
But these are not smoking guns, and could be very much a playstyle thing (needing to hash all the information). Why is he so big of a scum read to you?

DDL defends RcE as well and in a way that doesn't feel all that good faith

In post 1795, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 1778, Cafe Stile wrote:Lady Eventide - They're looking green for me. They're being a bit helpful to twon the way that Sailor Senshi does.
This is how I know you have at most skimmed.

Helpful to town is a gross overstatement. I can agree with there are gems in the rough if you wade through all the dirt but no more

Difference between that and SS is night and day

think this is both S indicative and SvS indicative.

In post 3401, DrDolittle wrote:i wonder whether CS giving the shot to you, gameplay, and the gamma shot was forced by CS, so that in EV terms, your shot is more likely to kill town

In post 3403, DrDolittle wrote:i think my posited scenario is likely, VOTE: CS

In post 3405, DrDolittle wrote:actually maybe not. I still have to figure out this whole CW neighborhood thing UNVOTE:

and then this is just not gr8

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:04 pm**

cs has actually been tonally the worst slot in the game since very very early on, i got derailed from that on d1 and then have been reluctant because it seemed like their scumreads are scum but atp i think their scumreads are scum because tmi

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:05 pm**

In post 3691, DrDolittle wrote:I can do CS or RCE too

In post 3880, DrDolittle wrote:im not too interested in voting pops
VOTE: rce

hmmmm

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:07 pm**

see like i was momentarily considering townreading that

but yesterday, before RcE flip, both DDL and CS were treating each other like the most obvious scum to ever scum
but then now today after the RcE flip both of them have randomly found reasons to townread each other, are generally going off of the same reads, and are both going after dannflor

kinda feels like there was a discussion overnight of 'okay we are self destructing lets find people to SR that aren't each other'

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:07 pm**

In post 4568, Titus wrote:
In post 4457, DrDolittle wrote:Other than that I'm concerned about LLD and Katsuki. Both of them are not obv town, and they mason read each other.
This can be dealt with by PoE and bullets.

Hope you don't actually try to deal with it with bullets because you would be completely [redacted] if you do.

Censored word with something that rhymes because MS.net is a safe space.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:09 pm**

In post 4433, Cafe Stile wrote:Kay uh so we motivated tana and eph because non-consecutive

what the hell happened

//

VCA at night actually tells me that DDL looks better
So I'm just looking at like
{croag/HH} for scum
somehow that feels wrong
idk

In post 4434, DrDolittle wrote:CS and SS should both be town. Scum would be a bit more careful if its their partner wagoned like that

the posts are even adjacent lol

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:10 pm**

Am I the only one who finds it really fucking weird that Titus just went and dug up all her crumbs to supposedly support her vig claim completely unpressured?

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:13 pm**

yes but I think that's just Titus

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:13 pm**

it's weird but titus weird i think.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:14 pm**

is CS going after me?

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:14 pm**

In post 4453, Cafe Stile wrote:
In post 4451, DrDolittle wrote:Dannflor looking real bad on that VCA
wait why
he was on rce
titus actually wasnt

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:15 pm**

no sry misinterpret

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:16 pm**

tana prefers ddl so we're gonna vote there

VOTE: ddl

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:31 pm**

there actually was 1 push on presumed???? town from CS onto Titus actually but after that, nah.

Posted: **Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:32 pm**

also ddl's dannflor read is predicated on the fact that he's a nice fellow? wut

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