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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:55 am
by Something_Smart
In post 4605, Datisi wrote:noice yoinking, micc. i hope this is fun to watch.
How could it possibly be lol

Micc probably wants to strangle all of us

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:58 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 4620, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I was 100% sure you were town after reading 4514-4521 tho you were like pretty close to 95% town to begin with before that
I’m just saying my meltdown is 100% nai and should not be viewed as anything else. As long as everyone is clear on that, good. My emotions are always real. I would never fake a meltdown to help me in a game ever.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:00 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
well i had you at 100% town before the meltdown but that probly doesnt do much since im going to die

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:01 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 4624, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm not saying they wrongly SR you

I'm saying they are trying to get you to calm down and accept Pooky getting lynched.
You were suggesting they were playing me? How is any of that supposed to calm me down? I even have a migraine over it.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:05 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 4627, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:well i had you at 100% town before the meltdown but that probly doesnt do much since im going to die
Are you actually saying you were trying to get me to have a meltdown? I sense another one coming on now. This is no fucking joke. Please don’t manipulate my emotions for your sake, I honestly can’t deal.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:08 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 4612, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like i really feel I don't deserve you this game, you've been so good to me and i've been so shit and useless and it just breaks my heart seeing that asshole dats do the same shit routine to you too
YOU NEED To STOP THIS NOW! Not cool bruh!

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:11 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 4630, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 4612, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like i really feel I don't deserve you this game, you've been so good to me and i've been so shit and useless and it just breaks my heart seeing that asshole dats do the same shit routine to you too
YOU NEED To STOP THIS NOW! Not cool bruh!
You are gaslighting Dats and in a mean way. I refuse to be any kind of party to this. Dats is a great person, so is SS and I’m actually friends with tw, so don’t you dare talk about my friends that way. I won’t stand for it!

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:16 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 4613, Datisi wrote:i am not about to be gaslighted into thinking i'm a horrible person because i asked a game-relevant question. i am not about to be gaslighted into thinking i'm a horrible person because i asked a game-relevant question. i am not about to be gaslighted into thinking i'm a horrible person because i asked a game-relevant question. i am not about to be gaslighted into thinking i'm a horrible person because i asked a game-relevant question. i am not about to be gaslighted into thinking i'm a horrible person because i asked a game-relevant question. i am not about to be gaslighted into thinking i'm a horrible person because i asked a game-relevant question. i am not about to be gaslighted into thinking i'm a horrible person because i asked a game-relevant question. i am not about to be gaslighted into thinking i'm a horrible person because i asked a game-relevant question. i am not about to be gaslighted into thinking i'm a horrible person because i asked a game-relevant question. i am not about to be gaslighted into thinking i'm a horrible person because i asked a game-relevant question.
In post 4614, Datisi wrote:nevermind, i'm crying now. i'll be back later.
*(((HUGS Dats)))*

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:27 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i have no reason to manipulate your emotions because you literally already think I am town and so changing your opinion wouldnt help me in any way. I am sorry to have caused you emotional duress and I will log off for a while now.

everything i wrote this morning are my actual thoughts and I'm honestly too emotionally drained to care about this game right now. its just too much.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:31 am
by Something_Smart
In post 4633, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i have no reason to manipulate your emotions because you literally already think I am town and so changing your opinion wouldnt help me in any way.
This has the extremely worrying implication that you would be willing to manipulate someone's emotions if they did not agree with you.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:09 am
by Datisi
In post 4625, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4605, Datisi wrote:noice yoinking, micc. i hope this is fun to watch.
How could it possibly be lol

Micc probably wants to strangle all of us
the way i see the past few pages is i'm imagining three screaming shrieking children who are crying and trying to hit each other because someone took someone else's crayon

and s_s is the babysitter who's so done with our shit and who's definitely not getting paid enough for this

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:46 am
by skitter30
guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuys

i kinda like skimmed the past 10 pages and i'm not really interested in reading it further ... if i missed something important plz requote it for me

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:54 am
by Datisi
hi skitter : ' )

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:54 am
by skitter30
heya dats

sorry that things seem to be a bit of a mess :/

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:56 am
by Datisi
i was hoping there'd be more Input from The Conftown but i genuinely don't blame you at all for skimming past it lmao

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:59 am
by skitter30
i'll, like, try again but it didn't seem super pleasant really

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:05 am
by Datisi
what i gathered, the Shitfest starts after . the things before it seemed civil? i was hoping to hear your input on it i guess.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:05 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4634, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4633, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i have no reason to manipulate your emotions because you literally already think I am town and so changing your opinion wouldnt help me in any way.
This has the extremely worrying implication that you would be willing to manipulate someone's emotions if they did not agree with you.
you are ridiculous

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:11 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4484, Something_Smart wrote:You both are speaking essentially in unison today. You are pulling whatever you can out of my ISO and assigning it scum motivation without actually analyzing it, and you're shooting down whatever I say and trying to gaslight me by suggesting that my arguments are insane. You're ignoring the evidence I have given of decision making and insisting that you actually know what I did or didn't think about. You both have expressed a token suspicion on the other but ultimately decided that I was the right one to kill.

This is not at all a cooperative mindset. This is adversarial. This method of twisting the facts could be confirmation bias-- but confirmation bias rarely manifests itself in such a sudden (neither of you were remotely tunneled on me before today) or coordinated (you both are doing this in exactly the same way at exactly the same time) manner.

Meanwhile I have basically sat here and taken it, trying to deflect and break down your arguments while engaging the people I trust and trying to get on the same page as them (and get them on the same page as each other). I haven't really presented any arguments of my own, because I don't necessarily think that what I can produce is more meaningful than what they can produce, and whatever case they make will certainly be more meaningful to them.
this is SS's case for Raven/Pooky scumteam

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:14 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
The counter to this case:

1) This is literally the dumbest scum strategy imaginable - Raven-scum would not go all in on defending Pooky-scum on lylo when literally everyone else has signalled that they want to lynch Pooky.

2) I have literally never had a scumpartner hard all in defend me at lylo in my life as far as I can remember.

3) Bugspray almost hammered Pooky on the first day of D1.

4) Pooky literally asked the town to lynch him on D2 to avoid this lylo bullshit push over DSJ-town who was the other possible lynch at the time.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:18 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I don't see how Pooky-scum makes these posts yesterday about DSJ-town:
In post 3610, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3606, skitter30 wrote:bleh sorry i know i'm not being helpful
(i'm feeling like ... really burnt out rn)

i'm leaning towards voting pooky here cuz i'm not sure how else he'd be sorted
and he feels really disingenuous in several of his arguments
and is shading like ... many people

i don't really want dsjstr in lylo either tho
what i really dont want is a green dsj flip today followed by easy lynch of me tomm in lylo for scumwin

id rather get lynched today, flip green and you guys think about what I said about dsj/ss knowing my role is green
In post 3632, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3630, skitter30 wrote:should i just take the plunge and vote dsjstr????

dats i really don't want you to autovote pooky tom in that case :/
Skitter,

I've read all of dsj's scumgames and a few of his longer town games that I linked prior to this.

The difference between him here and his previous scumgames is that he's lasted longer than a few days - in 2 scumgames he replaces out almost immediately, one of them he replaced in on the last day and did nothing, very rarely does he actually play the game out when he is dealt scum and his scum play is very crap.

I also re-read a few of his town games and he usually gets into stupid arguments - but this could be because they are mostly newbie games.

A possible explanation for his play this game is that he feels uncomfortable and out of his depth- however I do not believe dsjtr offering to off himself via lynch to avoid lylo is within his scumrange - his scum play lacks that level of deception.

My worry is that the scum are outside of dats/dsj and they are happy to keep me/dats alive as lynchbait for lylo when they can just jump on Datisi - hence why I think removing me is the best way to clear Datisi's head if he is actually town which I currently believe he is.
It is suicidally stupid to make these posts if I am scum

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:22 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4461, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3601, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3587, Something_Smart wrote:we definitely need dsjstr's flip to make sense of anything
please elaborate

Dsj flips scum ->??

Dsj flips town ->??
like this was what he said about Dsj - he says he needs the information from DSJ's flip to "make sense of anything" I ask him for specifics and he basically put down some random nonsense that he didn't really think out:
In post 3602, Something_Smart wrote:dsj flips scum -> we can probably just kill you/raven and be happy

dsj flips town -> something is rotten in the state of denmark. is it datisi? is it tw? who knows, really, we get to have a real fun and by fun I mean not fun lylo to figure that one out.
reposting this in case you missed it

Now DSJ has flipped town - does SS do what he promised to do? Nope he just goes straight to scenario 1: Let's kill Pooky/Raven.(which is what he wanted to do if dsj flipped scum)

So how the hell could SS need DSJ's flip info to "figure things out" IF HIS PLAN REGARDLESS OF DSJ FLIP WAS ALWAYS TO LYNCH POOKY/RAVEN?

He didn't NEED INFO AT ALL. HE'S NOT EVEN PRETENDING TO SOLVE THE GAME.

Does that sound like a player "figuring things out" or a scum checking easy low hanging fruit off his "to lynch list" for an easy win? LIKE I DONT KNOW HOW MUCH MORE OBVIOUS SS-SCUM HAS TO GET FOR YOU GUYS TO WAKE THE !@#$ UP

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:24 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4634, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4633, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i have no reason to manipulate your emotions because you literally already think I am town and so changing your opinion wouldnt help me in any way.
This has the extremely worrying implication that you would be willing to manipulate someone's emotions if they did not agree with you.

"Someone has shot this woman dead in the street, Pooky did you do it?"

"Why no, I have no motive to do it, I don't even know this woman"

"This has the extremely worrying implication that you would be willing to murder a woman in the streets if you did know them."

You are so full of shit its unbelievable

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:38 am
by Datisi
In post 3610, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what i really dont want is a green dsj flip today followed by easy lynch of me tomm in lylo for scumwin

id rather get lynched today, flip green and you guys think about what I said about dsj/ss knowing my role is green
In post 3632, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:My worry is that the scum are outside of dats/dsj and they are happy to keep me/dats alive as lynchbait for lylo when they can just jump on Datisi - hence why I think removing me is the best way to clear Datisi's head if he is actually town which I currently believe he is.
^^ this is giving me such a goddamn flashback to:
In post 1532, CantHateAPuppy wrote:meh, if u want to mislynch me let's get it over with today instead of tomorrow when it's going to be lylo

i don't get it, what do people think we get out of voting prana, no one is even offering other options
In post 1545, CantHateAPuppy wrote:This game was a lot of work to sub into, i don't want to deal with lylo tomorrow if it's going to be me arguing with my townread not to hammer me

if u will take down una tomorrow i will gladly eat the mislynch today, i don't see why u want to to go all in on a slot that doesn't clear ur head at all
like it's fucking eerie how similar the posts are
> "why are we lynching the universal scumread dsjstr/prana, i don't think they're scum"
> "the scum is s_s/una, lynch me today then get them tomorrow"
> "i'd rather get lynched today, the day before lylo, than have to argue with my townread datisi/tanner tomorrow"

like it's unreal
holy fucking shit it is u n r e a l

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:43 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
can you find a game where I do this as scum? what the hell does this puppy dude have to do with me?