I just want to see the wild celebration in the scum PT when I randomly wake up and vote hopkirk out of nowhere :>
sorry again Hops <3
nice hammer Gloria
Thanks for modding Hectic/Kanna/Lend !! Another wild ride I'm not quite done digesting.
Thanks for the dance Jessie! Sorry we did not get to do much roleplaying
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:04 pm
by Isis
It is difficult to assess the balance of this setup.
This was significantly more bastard than Menagerie and I didn't love that.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:06 pm
by Hectic
Mhm, I was far less satisfied with how this played out compared to Menagerie
I'm sorry the scummers didn't have much fun this game :[
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:07 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I think balance wise it is incredibly hard for the scum because they are only as good as their weakest link.
just on a pure-probability basis assuming random elims its like 75% town victory on the first 2 launches?
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:09 pm
by Isis
In post 4635, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think balance wise it is incredibly hard for the scum because they are only as good as their weakest link.
just on a pure-probability basis assuming random elims its like 75% town victory on the first 2 launches?
Yeah, you can make the first 2 launches nonrandom using the strength of the numbers, but you're fully accountable for everything you do to make it different from 75%
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:10 pm
by Hectic
In post 4635, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think balance wise it is incredibly hard for the scum because they are only as good as their weakest link.
Yeah, this. The game would be completely different if there wasn't a big scumwagon in the first phase. Having the whole game hinge on 1 weak link of 6 players is poor design. Should've caught that one in hindsight
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:14 pm
by skitter30
Thanks hectic!
Sorry for kinda fading out there, as i mentioned in the scum pt i have a strong aversion to these sorts of setups, and its hard for me to be motivated
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:18 pm
by Hopkirk
when i spoke with hectic about the setup my thought was that 1 week deadline for the first phase (both votes) would have been pretty good
the mafia seemed frustrated by the end, and for the town... honestly the first 2 weeks is the vast majority of the game and the amount of time made it kind of an oppressive setup and kind of made the later stage a bit less of an automatic process
i was frustrated this game because i'd just come out of one of my least favourite mafia games i've played in terms of being incredibly frustrating throughout. i got a little triggered by the kind of ... underlying oppressive feel of this game where i felt like i was getting everything right, doing everything right and still couldn't advance the game (right after a game where i had an even more frustrating case of that). i may have gone a little bit too intense, so apologies if anyone was upset by that
that was an amazing town. if pooky hadn't changed him vote we would have actually won a 6 town vs 6 mafia gamestate which is... insanely good cohesion
i am very happy with pushing Skitter30/Dunn/Gyp all day followed by this POE... i think i've got my POE based strategy in a place i'm happy with now. see y'all in team mafia
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:22 pm
by skitter30
Yep sorry hopkirk <3
I felt super bad for pushing you, and i think theres like multiple pages on the scum pt with all of us saying the same thing
You were spot on and super townie, and in a normal game you never get limmed there
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:27 pm
by team rocket queen
thankyou for moderating.
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:32 pm
by Infinity 324
Gg, agree with other people’s comments regarding the setup. Though I did think it was a cool idea, and it was a lot of fun on d2 to solve with all the info dumped onto us. Thanks for modding!
Gloria gets a promised and well-deserved apology for my tunnel on her. With tweet and skitter flipping scum, and my d1 hoopla scumread in pyp turning out to be correct, I really didn’t want to doubt myself again. I’m sorry that it made the game less fun for you, I know how it feels to get deathtunneled and it sucks.
Isis I meant what I said about being happy that you’re scum because your d1 posts were so well-written! I might just go back and read your ISO again to get some inspiration for my scumgame or something.
In general, this playerlist was a ton of fun to play with and I’d love to play with any of you again!
TheGoldenParadox
PookyTheMagicalBear
team rocket queen
Hopkirk
-have won!
What? come again? Tweetie wasn’t town. ??????
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:34 pm
by skitter30
Also agreed! Pl was fantastic! And so was town!
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:35 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4639, Hopkirk wrote:if pooky hadn't changed him vote we would have actually won a 6 town vs 6 mafia gamestate which is... insanely good cohesion
our soul-sync was unreal until i messed everything up
I'll give (expired on 2020-12-23 20:37:11) for redactions
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:37 pm
by skitter30
No redactions from me
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:38 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 4642, Infinity 324 wrote:Gg, agree with other people’s comments regarding the setup. Though I did think it was a cool idea, and it was a lot of fun on d2 to solve with all the info dumped onto us. Thanks for modding!
Gloria gets a promised and well-deserved apology for my tunnel on her. With tweet and skitter flipping scum, and my d1 hoopla scumread in pyp turning out to be correct, I really didn’t want to doubt myself again. I’m sorry that it made the game less fun for you, I know how it feels to get deathtunneled and it sucks.
Isis I meant what I said about being happy that you’re scum because your d1 posts were so well-written! I might just go back and read your ISO again to get some inspiration for my scumgame or something.
In general, this playerlist was a ton of fun to play with and I’d love to play with any of you again!
So it wasn’t you who did that to me then? My apologies for what I said about you post-game in that case. I just auto assumed based on the timing. Next time I’ll ask. Sorry.
I sincerely appreciate this and thank you. I also want to apologize for losing it on you. I could have kept that down but when I thought Flea had conceded and then you did it to me again, I just couldn’t.