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In post 2237, Venmar wrote:oh shit, this might actually be town gamma

In post 2795, Venmar wrote:well im back from work?

In post 2739, Maid Cafe wrote:Ok to put my read really simply because I like to lie to myself and say I am studying while I procrastinate. And I am stupidly lazy atm.

Compare how Gamma plays in the average town game to his play here. Gamma is typically a super open player like Creature levels of open and it's just super apparent when you read his town games when nothing he posts makes sense because its all just his raw thoughts and it's just generally obvious town. And it's not like Gamma is at Mark's level where he can emulate that as either alignment.
Just generally i think his average town thought processes aren't really present and it feels a lot more like a player going through motions then anything else. Like his most recent post really just read as scum posting for the sake of it and I can pull up other posts but that is just the trend I get while reading his posts.

Like I feel like if you just read his ISO it's just really obvious there is just a closed nature to his posts that really is never there when he is town.
Sorry if this is poorly explained but that's generally why I think he is scum.

~B

i will note that i actually initially townread gamma for the completely opposite of this; i came in and i actually thought gamma's posting reminded me of his town play. i agree with your description of gamma's townplay and i think his posts like the ones above my #2237 fit the criteria of what i considered towngamma since a lot of them just look like he is dumping his thoughts into the thread.

In post 3272, Venmar wrote:that face when taly starts crumbling down your alisae townread

taly's push on gamma makes me hesitate. feels like an agenda-pushed read, taly's really just yelling gamma down for refusing to agree to a massclaim, which advocating for as he is here reads as super awkward since i don't think anyone here really knows what is going on and taly is giving me the impression that he somehow does?

taly can you lay out for me where alisae sits on the gamma read

In post 3335, Venmar wrote:okay, so idk what im at right now with this game

so let me say where i'm at right now with this game; here's where i'm at: i'm kind of lost. my #3272 came from a point of frustration based on the game changing flavours, and after recollection i'm actually still fine with alisae's slot, though i'm still definitely not happy with pushing a massclaim this early.

i find myself agreeing, yet being at conflict with my townreads. i think maid cafe and purple heart are solving this game, but i disagree with some of their reads that they are pushing hard right now, and by reads i really just mean the singular read of gamma. i am purely, and entirely, solely townreading gamma off gut. im definitely not qualified to make this read since my meta with gamma isn't THAT long, and i had troubles reading him in some games, but my honest to god, twitch, blind gut reaction to his posting here is that he is town. i still think gamma's posting is just like what i remembered it to be from valentines mafia, and i also townread gamma's frustration and exasperation since it's again something i associate with his town-range.

that said:

In post 3178, Maid Cafe wrote:Gamma Emerald.
Almost50.
Baku and Munna.
Nacy Drew

~B

i think this is a good place to start. im still not sold on the micc slot, i still think micc's play was genuine though nacy drew is nulling the slot up by being, well, absent, though i'm still not ready to lynch the slot. i can definitely get behind baku and almost50 though since i think a50 is missing the direction and purpose i associate with his townplay, his play just feels apathetic and meandering, and my impression of baku's play as-so-far is just doing some very wolfy popins and doing some scummy posturing (their positioning regarding chara's claim mainly comes to mind).

vote: baku

^ i think this is the vote to go with today i think

In post 3321, Maid Cafe wrote:Me and Claire decided claiming this was correct. (lol day roleblocker if thats a thing).

We can put 3 people in a hood RBing all of them.

We kinda want to use this to win the game on the spot.

~B

nutty. i think lynching baku and putting a50/gamma/?? in the neighborhood is the right play here. i'm more interested in testing gamma via the rb than lynching him to be honest.

In post 3469, Venmar wrote:

In post 3459, Reasonably Rational wrote:The important points being:

Do you still believe B&M is the best lynch for today, in light of that information?
Do you think A50 is more or less likely to be scum now?
Do you believe there's any possibility of some subset of those four slots being scum *together*, and either working to coordinate distancing, or enacting bussing plans instituted once OTM/MC were both revealed as threats to B&M?
Do you think MC's reasoning that it's more valuable to lynch someone besides the person he thinks is guilty, and RB the less probable scum target, again, based on the reasoning he used, is something that comes from town!MC?


I'm sure there are other questions, but I think you get the point.
-Cerb

i still think baku is scum by play and probably our lynch for today. a50 is less likely to be scum in my eyes now because i think his frustration and anger came from a town mindset, though his play still doesn't make sense even for the a50 that i know.

idk which slots you're referring to when you say "those four slots", cafe has a couple variations. i don't think any of cafe's slot combinations for the scumteam are accurate since i don't think gamma is scum and i know i'm not scum.

i think mc is basically lock town so im only trying to figure out their thought process when i talk to them. i think it's always more proficient to lynch slots we KNOW are scum rather than the less likely scum slot so we can rb the other or some other confusing shenanigans.

afaik cafe also hasn't gotten back to me why they're randomly scumreading me.

In post 3906, Venmar wrote:im actually also still townreading gamma, for the record.

i know that doesn't make sense because im voting them, but this is entirely and purely a case of gamma, in my eyes, being town by play, but a lynch by mechanic. gamma's unlynchable claim is basically something i will always want to hard check in any game. i think gamma is bluffing/lying at best, lying at worst. he either gets lynched and flips scum for lying, or is actually unlynchable, in which case he isn't lying and we get a free night for all of us to be productive and use investigatives and hoods to catch scum. it's the play for today.