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In post 4643, Ydrasse wrote:the point osuka is trying to make is simply that you said something that, by your own words, is more condemning than helpful; it incriminates you by virtue of your self-meta. it isn't a misrep, whether or not i townread you.

i kind of don't get how you misunderstood this one?

quoted wrong thing was going to answer osukas question about “misrep"

daddy

In post 4648, Ydrasse wrote:i don't really think it's a scumslip but neither is it a good look if you're looking at that singular post alone.

well then you agree that osuka is misrepping me because the world osuka is pushing is that its a scumslip

In post 4645, shellyc wrote:

In post 4642, osuka wrote:

In post 4640, shellyc wrote:

In post 4635, Ydrasse wrote:shelly, the point that osuka is making is that you said when you get townread, you're scum.

and that in this game, EVERYONE townreads you.

yes but I actually fucking improve my town play and instead you scumread me for it

this is false

obvtown gets shot. you don't really wanna obvtown as scum - why the fuck do you think i'm still alive in this game? i've been ~almost~ eliminated like three days in a row now

that’s why I don’t obvtown as scum, I get townread, i have a basic concept of what to do as scum
UTR != getting townread note the word universally

pedit: well for what it’s worth if I incriminated myself with my self meta description how is that a scumslip

okay let me break it down for you. i'll try to keep it to small words because you clearly are having some trouble there

_true_ obvtown tends to get universally townread. that's the nature of obvtown

you JUST said you've been the utr every time you got scum on the website so far. that's not coming from me, that's coming from you
you also said you've been the utr this game.
you also said that you're obvtowning this game.

what the fuck is your point?

In post 4647, shellyc wrote:also, im not UTR. there’s a certain person named osuka that scum reads me

let's all collectively remember that you said you're the UTR in self-defense against my push on you. i've been sring you for quite a while now

what changed?

my point is to provide meta information on myself
pushing that I might be bad at obvtowning as town and I might be a VI

also that its not a scumslip. yeah I did provide incriminating meta information on myself but doesn’t mean im just auto scum this game because I’ve been UTR in all my scumgames. this is fallacious logic and just because I’ve been UTR in my scum games and UTR in this game doesn’t mean that im scum, because there is the possibility that town!me becomes UTR

shelly is not paired with plus.
shelly is not paired with osuka.
shelly is paired with ndmath?

plus is not paired with shelly.
plus is paired with osuka.
plus is paired with ndmath.

osuka is not paired with shelly.
osuka is maybe? paired with ndmath.
osuka is paired with plus.

this is... vaguely where my mind is.

In post 4652, shellyc wrote:

In post 4648, Ydrasse wrote:i don't really think it's a scumslip but neither is it a good look if you're looking at that singular post alone.

well then you agree that osuka is misrepping me because the world osuka is pushing is that its a scumslip

you're latching onto words here and intentionally missing my point

you're presenting the same facts differently to defend yourself in different stages of the game so that they benefit you better. that's a feature of a manipulative mindset and it does not typically come from town

okay I'm trying to parse this and I can't get beyond just the two of you yelling at each other

I'll try tomorrow provided you don't just have the same back and forth for another 15 pages

osuka can you please try to do the andres thing with the quotes and everything

In post 4655, shellyc wrote:my point is to provide meta information on myself
pushing that I might be bad at obvtowning as town and I might be a VI

also that its not a scumslip. yeah I did provide incriminating meta information on myself but doesn’t mean im just auto scum this game because I’ve been UTR in all my scumgames. this is fallacious logic and just because I’ve been UTR in my scum games and UTR in this game doesn’t mean that im scum, because there is the possibility that town!me becomes UTR

please stop trying to meta yourself. that's actually probably the single most annoying thing about your play, because self-meta is the most meaningless thing on the face of the fucking planet

you didn't provide incriminating meta information, you contradicted yourself by spinning the exact same aspect of your play this game and your meta completely differently from the way you presented it a week ago

In post 4654, osuka wrote:what changed?

joyed also scum reads me

pedit: as town another obligation to have is to avoid getting miseliminated as that benefits scums wincon

In post 4652, shellyc wrote:

In post 4648, Ydrasse wrote:i don't really think it's a scumslip but neither is it a good look if you're looking at that singular post alone.

well then you agree that osuka is misrepping me because the world osuka is pushing is that its a scumslip

meeeeeh.

i can understand using the word scumslip even if i don't think it's the exact word ~i~ would use.

In post 4656, Ydrasse wrote:shelly is not paired with plus.
shelly is not paired with osuka.
shelly is paired with ndmath?

plus is not paired with shelly.
plus is paired with osuka.
plus is paired with ndmath.

osuka is not paired with shelly.
osuka is maybe? paired with ndmath.
osuka is paired with plus.

this is... vaguely where my mind is.

why is shelly+plus not possible?

In post 4660, shellyc wrote:

In post 4654, osuka wrote:what changed?

joyed also scum reads me

pedit: as town another obligation to have is to avoid getting miseliminated as that benefits scums wincon

joyed has been following my reads for quite a while not, he just scumreads you by proxy

In post 4660, shellyc wrote:pedit: as town another obligation to have is to avoid getting miseliminated as that benefits scums wincon

which is why ive stayed alive this long :)

In post 4662, osuka wrote:

In post 4656, Ydrasse wrote:shelly is not paired with plus.
shelly is not paired with osuka.
shelly is paired with ndmath?

plus is not paired with shelly.
plus is paired with osuka.
plus is paired with ndmath.

osuka is not paired with shelly.
osuka is maybe? paired with ndmath.
osuka is paired with plus.

this is... vaguely where my mind is.

why is shelly+plus not possible?

mmm, i don't know if plus wants to push on shelly for the theatre thing as scum. i also recall thinking at some points earlier in the game that, between their interactions, it wasn't s/s. i'll try to find them later.

why are you not doing ndmath pairings

math’s literally paired with {osuka shelly plus} which is highest partnership scum equity

because ndmath is not here right now.

In post 4666, shellyc wrote:why are you not doing ndmath pairings

math’s literally paired with {osuka shelly plus} which is highest partnership scum equity

didn't she literally just do that?????

In post 4663, osuka wrote:joyed has been following my reads for quite a while not, he just scumreads you by proxy

@joyed

why are you following osukas reads constantly. don’t you TR other people, why don’t you follow their reads.

In post 4668, osuka wrote:didn't she literally just do that?????

yeeeeeah but I didn’t see it since I thought you were only analysing {shelly osuka plus}

if you have 4 people, say {1, 2, 3, 4}, and you present the following relationships:

{1, 2}
{1, 3}
{1, 4}

{2, 1}
{2, 3}
{2, 4}

{3, 1}
{3, 4}
{3, 2}

didn't you just present all the possible relationships involving 4?

In post 4669, shellyc wrote:

In post 4663, osuka wrote:joyed has been following my reads for quite a while not, he just scumreads you by proxy

@joyed

why are you following osukas reads constantly. don’t you TR other people, why don’t you follow their reads.

other than the fact that i'm always right, it's probably just an attempt at pocketing

In post 4670, shellyc wrote:

In post 4668, osuka wrote:didn't she literally just do that?????

yeeeeeah but I didn’t see it since I thought you were only analysing {shelly osuka plus}

hold on i have a quote for this

In post 4639, osuka wrote:oh look! ydrasse is very good at reading, maybe you should ask her for some tips shelly

turns out if you don't read the game, you don't know what the fuck is going on!

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