If you mean did I think you would vote right away or think about it for a while, I didnt have any particular idea about that and wasnt thinking about it anyway since I didnt even know who would be alive today
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:38 pm
by Morning Tweet
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:43 am
by skitter30
I did look at the vcs, one thing in ceph's favor is that day1 he was on the roden/house wagons p early
But, for the rest of thr game, he p staunchly avoided scumwagons, and wagoned everything else, while ydra was fairly consistently on ss for a lot of day2/day3
You did both end up on dgb, and ss did vote ceph while that wagon was talking off eod2
On balance i think ydra'a voting history is better
Also i still think the way ss hammered galron indicates that his partner was already onwagon
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:44 am
by skitter30
Ydra iso will be tom night
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:49 am
by Cephrir
Feel like the point about me not being on scum wagons would be more impactful if those wagons were not all on one person.
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:05 am
by skitter30
Yes that is true.
Or another way of saying that is that a vc review supports my prior thought. basically saying you avoided ss post eod1, ydra was trying to wagon him at various poiints
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:19 am
by Ydrasse
the ss vote on cephrir felt like he was trying to get on the wagon when it grew with like ~4 people voting at once and when i said i didn’t wanna vote ceph (lol) ss immediately went “galron?”
i’d quote but i’m on mobile
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:24 am
by skitter30
Ok i'll take a look
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:24 pm
by skitter30
Oh you're right
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:33 pm
by skitter30
In post 2333, Ydrasse wrote:voted enchant because rodens final post spoke to me on a whim
i’d rather just vote out town and then say sorry i was indecisive on s_s and spare my partner another day because i could survive losing the cred
Ydra what does this post mean? Or could you like reword the second paragraph? I'm mot following it
i was still thinking the wagons were t/s i think and i was saying i could have arbitrarily voted s_s to give enchant another day to do things because i was fairly tr at that point and could have dealt with it if i was scum, but me not doing that was towny (in a town!ss world)
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:40 pm
by skitter30
In post 4206, Ydrasse wrote:can someone just shoot me tonight so there isn't a wasted miselim on me
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:41 pm
by skitter30
Oh hai ydra
Thanks
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:42 pm
by skitter30
In post 4215, Ydrasse wrote:i think it's grating to me because, to me, the only reason i should ever be suspected is after ss flips? like, i have no reason to do what i did d1 unless im scum with them both, genuinely, like. i could bus but i could get away with /not/ doing that too imo, say sorry im trying to pick someone i pick wrong, oh well. i'd probably do that so we wouldn't be down a teammember. i get if you think it's exactly ss and me but even then like... idk i think i already said i was sitting on ss most of the day before and my vote ended up being on the cc people
it's also just the fact that im not... doing anything, in a game where i invested some amount of effort. i dont always ~follow through~ but in a game like this i wouldnt want to waste being set up that well. i could like make up something about what i thought or whatever but i just don know and i feel like that is a hallmark of my towngame more than my scumgame which is just. fmpov its annoying and frustrating when i know these things i guess and then i see things like deepwolf when im going ?? and i dont know whos just saying it because they dont have options and whos trying to push me out
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:45 pm
by Ydrasse
Hi i am very bored and in a camper
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:46 pm
by skitter30
yeah i thought you weren't going to be here this weekend lol
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:47 pm
by skitter30
i hope ur having a good weekend tho
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:48 pm
by Ydrasse
i thought i wasn’t either but everyone’s super drunk and i decided to read
it’s decent enough tho and i hope urs is too !!
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:59 pm
by skitter30
general ydra thoughts:
- how pissed she was at ssbm is +town imo. i know she's good at faking emotion but overall it felt real to me, especially since it's clear she didn't really want to be in the game anymore anyways.
- also just generally: i don't want to play anymore just vote me day4 so i'm done with it and so i'm not a liability in elo is +townie too. i suppose it's possible that scum-her was just, like, done after losing enchant + ss but idk *she* was still kinda in a good-ish place and i don't think she would be quasi-conceding there as scum. like i guess to me the emotion is either coming from 'town who's just done and doesn't want to be the game-ending mislfip', or 'scum who knows she's lost and just doesn't want to be forced to go through the motions and emotions of playing out the last 2 days'. but i think the former is more likely to produce the *emotional* reaction to ssbm
- was pretty persistantly trying to get ss out from like mid-day2. did end up on dgb at the end, but then, so did ceph iirc, but she has been trying to get ss flipped for most of the game and i don't know why she would do that as a partner
- jumping off of ss onto galron eod2 because 'galron sounds like he knows ss is going to flip town' or something isn't great and i think that was part of the ss wagon deflating. like i guess this could be scum-her's exit off of the ss to try to find some other flip now that town doesn't seem super interested in him, but honestly i think she could have done that well before. also she pretty persistenatly circled back to ss over the next few days
- the pooky shot was just inexplicably bad, about as bad as the FN to ss was to me. one of you is scum, one of you is town who played suboptimally, i think that both of these probably wash out, idk how to differentiate.
- i think 4215 + the convo thereabouts is probably townie? i was calling ss + ydra, ydra was annoyed that i was scumreading her at all, and telling me only to scumread her if ss indeed flips scum, which seems somewhat dangerous if he is indeed
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:59 pm
by skitter30
In post 4669, Ydrasse wrote:i thought i wasn’t either but everyone’s super drunk and i decided to read
it’s decent enough tho and i hope urs is too !!
thanks!
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:02 pm
by skitter30
i guess to me what it basically boils down to is if ceph's treatment of the ss slot throughout the game is more or less likely to come form scum than town
and i'm leaning towards the former
it is possible that he had such a good townread on ss that he utterly refused to wagon him
but i don't think ceph's justification for the read is strong enough to explain how adamantly he refused to wagon him and how he pursued just about every other option, and i think the fact taht he was on every misflip is telling
idk that's where i'm at. ceph if you've got anything else to say lmk, otherwise i'll vote
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:37 pm
by Morning Tweet
Checking Cephrir's vitals.. stand-by...
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:50 pm
by Cephrir
i'm still here.
i might have a little more to say, but im pretty busy tomorrow and if you get impatient, fair enough