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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:45 pm
by NDMath
In post 4503, Chara wrote:i actually don't like Dunn's reaction to NM now that i look at it. "doublevoter that someone got to name" is wrong obviously, but the assumption that a player named it and it wasn't just a predetermined name from unwnd is actually correct. he could just be town who guessed right, but the focus on NM could be distancing.

i've been thinking about Dunn and his read on me, he seems pretty confident with how i'd approach a partner, and he isn't wrong, but the read kind of sticks out when i'm here accruing scumreads and Dunn then has a correct townread on me he's confident in. at least it contrasts Fark's read on the same topic where he came in thinking i wasn't scum but then became suspicious from other events.

ngl i'm extremely demotivated because i feel like a bunch of town are going to attack me tonight.
Regarding NM, I was thinking in the same ballpark as Dunn (although his proposal was stated more elegantly than mine would've been).
I find you scumreading him for townreading you weird but have seen town do that more than once.


I probably should have more to say but last few pages are really just dwlee catchup and vote shuffling between me ircher and mcat.

Spoiler: updated Votecount
In post 4475, borkjerfkin wrote:
Votecount

Adventurers
:

MURDERCAT [6]: NDMath, WhemeStar, Bell, Ircher, Lady Lambdadelta, Dunnstral
NDMath [7]: Titus, MURDERCAT, morph the cat, Artemiana, Farkran, Dwlee99, Bingle
Ircher [3]: Sigmund, Chara, TheStatusQuo
Dunnstral [1]: White Fire
notscience [1]: notscience

Not voting [2]: Something_Smart, Flea the Magician

With 20 alive it takes 11 to eliminate. Stratum 2 ends in (expired on 2021-06-14 22:25:25).

Claim coming momentarily since holding it off to the last 24 hours seems like a bad idea.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:47 pm
by Bell
Why do you need a moment to write that you’re going to claim?

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:55 pm
by NDMath
For context, I have fakeclaimed watcher gulties as scum twice. Dragons + Flea know this, notsci was there during the first one.

Because of this I knew I would have to crumb moreso than usual in case I do get a guilty, and the game being role madness meant I could get away with doing so.

I'm a Farmer, X hp, 1 dmg. I do not have SP.
I have an ability to watch a target (crumbed associated players in first sentence each day.)
In post 532, NDMath wrote:Mastina situation is unfortunate, I was hoping to get to play with them.
No visits on mastina stratum 0.
In post 3580, NDMath wrote:Yesterday's flip looks super good for lld and sigmund.
Sigmund was only visit on LLD stratum 2.
Didn't target bingle because of his pgo soft, thought he was ascetic or something since watcher and ic didn't make sense without some sort of interference.
Was gonna target Toog to potentially catch a roleblocker but was scared off by the day 1 hammer. Went for lld instead because I didn't think any town besides sigmund would ever visit that.
In post 3977, NDMath wrote:Also am having the weirdest 'paranoia' that whitefire has the same role as me but probably shouldn't discuss that further.
In reference to fire not mentioning having sp stolen, though ofc there wouldn't be two watchers.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:56 pm
by NDMath
In post 4676, Bell wrote:Why do you need a moment to write that you’re going to claim?
Gathering Crumbs + Thought Process

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:00 pm
by Bell
Plausible.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:05 pm
by NDMath
Forgot to mention but surprisingly didn't lose health stratum 2.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:11 pm
by Dunnstral
I mean I don't really see how what you quoted was softs nor do I think your role has to be town

I do think your role has enough utility that I'm willing to sh oot elsewhere. At white fire perhaps but I'd like for somebody (lld/morph/bingle) to make a call so that the shots kill someone

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:12 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 4677, NDMath wrote:Sigmund was only visit on LLD stratum 2.
This is the important part for verifying role

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:17 pm
by Ircher
In post 4681, Dunnstral wrote:I mean I don't really see how what you quoted was softs nor do I think your role has to be town
I agree with this.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:49 pm
by Chara
In post 4682, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4677, NDMath wrote:Sigmund was only visit on LLD stratum 2.
This is the important part for verifying role
seeing this result makes me feel good.

i'd like to see Math act tonight.

i like my Ircher vote better currently but i'm not really engaged enough to not sheep LLD today.

on further consideration i think my Dunn paranoia came while i was in a weird woe is me mood and it's not that strange he townreads me, i remember the game we were scum together in and i think it's plausible he is confident about how i play scum generally.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:52 pm
by Chara
VOTE: murdercat
Ircher is probably not happening anyway.

i also was kind of lukewarm on Dwlee's entrance, but curious what LLD sees there. still townread Guillotina so it's overall town.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:09 pm
by morph the cat
unvote:


syncing

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:15 pm
by morph the cat
In post 4493, Bell wrote:S_S seems fine.

I've played with Ircher like 3 times or so. all I really understand is how to correct for some idiosyncrasies and recognize that he's not really genuine when he plays mafia as either alignment.
Could you put some more words around your S_S read? I really want to put our read of him to bed, and I'm just not feeling it. :/

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:22 pm
by borkjerfkin
Mod Event


Votecount 2.5

Adventurers
:

MURDERCAT [7]: NDMath, WhemeStar, Ircher, Bell, Lady Lambdadelta, Dunnstral, Chara
NDMath [6]: Titus, MURDERCAT, Artemiana, Farkran, Dwlee99, Bingle
Ircher [2]: Sigmund, Thestatusquo
Dunnstral [1]: White Fire
notscience [1]: notscience

Not voting [3]: Something_Smart, Flea the Magician, morph the cat

With 20 alive it takes 11 to eliminate. Stratum 2 ends in (expired on 2021-06-14 22:25:25).

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:24 pm
by morph the cat
<3

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:30 pm
by Dwlee99
UNVOTE:
I buy the claim.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:42 pm
by borkjerfkin
In post 4654, MURDERCAT wrote:
@mod
I just noticed that in the last VC I am voting twice

VOTE: NDMath
this was messed up on previous VC and is fixed; Dunnstral's vote was also missing in that VC and is now present. Thanks for your patience.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:50 pm
by morph the cat
I'm here, sync is happening.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:00 pm
by Sigmund
yea I protected LLD last night

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:07 pm
by morph the cat
Cabd-head reads:

{Bingle, Artemiana, Sigmund, Titus}
{LLD, Bell}
{notscience, MurderCat, dwlee}
{NDMath, White Fire, Thestatusquo, Flea, Dunnstral }
{Flea, Ircher, Farkran }
{Whemestar, S_S, Chara}


Ffery-head reads:

{Bingle, Artemiana, Sigmund}
{LLD, Bell}
{dwlee, Dunnstral , notscience, Thestatusquo, NDMath, Titus}
{White Fire, MurderCat}
{Flea, Chara, Farkran, Ircher}
{Whemestar, S_S}

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:08 pm
by morph the cat
SYNC ACHIEVED


UNVOTE:
VOTE: Something_Smart

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:10 pm
by morph the cat
With all of that out of the way, calling murdercat town flips but not really sure we have the time required to effort away the wagon here like we did yesterday for town-sigmund~

So rabble rabble, etc.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:11 pm
by notscience
Why is wheme on the bottom

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:13 pm
by morph the cat
In post 4697, notscience wrote:Why is wheme on the bottom
Other folks are better, fell off hard.

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:14 pm
by notscience
I don’t think scum wheme plays around notmafia like he did here

It’s way too ootl to be a scum interaction lol