I have been rereading the game and i found some relevant posts
-> Im pretty certain that Ranmaru is not last red in any world here, see #433 or how hard he pushed the creature wagon. What is even more relevant to consider is how both his partner wouldve been fosed while he bused, when all you team is under attack and its multiball its not the time to hardbuss d1, at all
-> Im pretty certain that Chara is not Orange. I personnaly hard townread her play and i dont want to reconsider the read, but nontheless her many many interactions with Varsoon is telling imo and the way it happened. She also non-team told with red too but in a less extent
-> Im pretty certain that Klazoum cannot be orange (!!!) #633. This one is interesting, if you look at the wagon composition of 633 you can see that Titus + Pidgey + Marshy + Varsoon are voting him, and they are going to town (especially Varsoon, titus sheeping). That wagon has both religion spreader (if theres 1 orange spreader its on there) and OTM who is still on my poe pile. If the relgion spreader theory of 1 orange, 1 red, 2 town is true, it means that klazoum would be double bussed (1 religion spreader + varsoon) really early into the game, klazoum was also one of the first actual wagon i felt like could end up in a lynch d1, lets say it was the first serious wagon. You can also see Varsoon tried to shade marshy in #603 for his vote on klazoum (basically imo trying to discredit marshy there) yet literraly his next post is going ham on the klazoum wagon because i think he feels this could be an easy flip #612 and he double-down on #614. I think the last post (#614) is too far for a bus and thus, non-team told.
PS : Klazoum kept asking me about which color i think he is (so did ranmaru ircc), maybe because its easier to discredit the read if im guessing the wrong color (orange) when hes red. UNSURE, will have to further investigate the Klazoum last red theory
-> I also noted that Marshy is not red by play but is also not red by mechanics so eh less relevant. Varson #603 looks like non-team telling too, unsure
-> Same for gamma, definetely not red but its the same read i had.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:25 am
by Klazam
i swear i remeber there beng a doubletarget but guess i was wrong
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:50 am
by BuJaber
In post 4673, BuJaber wrote:Massclaim time? Might help especially regarding gamma.
Down to lynch klazam > joda > mark > pidgey > marshy in that order. This might change if people claim. We might get some people caught in a lie.
I forgot ran.. he'd go somewhere around klazam/joda.
Joey do you want to lynch someone with a higher chance of flipping red (if scum) or someone who can flip either red/orange?
To be honest if chara lives until the end she would start to look really good as last red so if you think she slipped non-red please share.
I have a theory regarding the A50 kill but I need to see how the day progresses to see if it makes sense. It's very WIFOMy and assumes I'm reading a certain someone correctly.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:50 am
by OnTheMark
Gamma 1xDOCTOR -> Brassherald
I think you’re off here Joey. Your notes say Gamma doesn’t have a doc in his JOAT. Copy paste error?
I'm actually a VT. Was hoping being ambiguous about that might draw some murders in the night my way, but eh, it kinda fell apart later in the day.
Honestly im at a loss.
I want to say pidgey is scum, but that isnt so assured because of the strange choice of nk. If Pidgey was orange scum, why would scum wanna reduce the religion spreading pool.
Wait, maybe it was beneficial to pidgey to have more spread shots in his favor, so reducing the amount of opposing religion spreaders in order to do that?
Question- Why would scum use a spread religion shot on someone who is a very easy lynch (me at the moment)? As opposed to Chara who is universally townread and unlikely to be lynched?
Thought- only Orange nightkilled, Red used power instead of nightkill? Pretty sure mod said that it was one or the other.
This is a very stupid conclusion you come up with. I just targetted you because i thought no one would convert you, simple as that. I dont know what my stupid religion does besides bring you to our lord jesus christ, so ill be damned if I dont have a follower dammit!!!
The real reason is i think you are scummy and although it would be kind of an overextension, i wanted to see if you would deny that i spreaded you or outright lie about it or evade it somehow.
Also, regarding you saying it was beneficial, i dunno. I have no fuck clue as to what religion does, like ive said 100 times. You can choose to not believe me and ignore me again though. I could have targetted chara too, ok. But then what if he dies for being obv town.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:05 am
by OnTheMark
@Joey assume you’re town. Why aren’t you green in your setup thing?
In post 4673, BuJaber wrote:Massclaim time? Might help especially regarding gamma.
Down to lynch klazam > joda > mark > pidgey > marshy in that order. This might change if people claim. We might get some people caught in a lie.
I forgot ran.. he'd go somewhere around klazam/joda.
Joey do you want to lynch someone with a higher chance of flipping red (if scum) or someone who can flip either red/orange?
To be honest if chara lives until the end she would start to look really good as last red so if you think she slipped non-red please share.
I have a theory regarding the A50 kill but I need to see how the day progresses to see if it makes sense. It's very WIFOMy and assumes I'm reading a certain someone correctly.
dk, if im sure on last red yes if not ill prob not vote via color
i know you cant read, this is a reccurent theme since your replace-in.
Dont you have anything to say about the 3 reads i outed or do you prefer to not pick at everything? (including how i mightve forgot the doc shot of gamma, or how im not clearing myself when i present the setup)?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:38 am
by Shaziro
I can't be the only one getting loads of scum from OTM, can I?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:41 am
by BuJaber
In post 4712, Shaziro wrote:I can't be the only one getting loads of scum from OTM, can I?
Don't know about 'loads' but no you're not. Especially since he replaced titus.
How about a readlist?
(If it weren't clear anybody I didn't put in the lynch preferences post I currently townread).
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:01 am
by Chara
it's funny because i was scumreading Titus before and townreading Mark now.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:31 am
by pidgey
At this point id lynch OTM or Bu. Followed by klazam probably.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:31 am
by pidgey
Oh and ranmaru is still scummy as fuck but i dont know anymore. I have to be wrong with a read somewhere.
i know you cant read, this is a reccurent theme since your replace-in.
Dont you have anything to say about the 3 reads i outed or do you prefer to not pick at everything? (including how i mightve forgot the doc shot of gamma, or how im not clearing myself when i present the setup)?
Why? You're already agreeing with my reads and calling them stupid at the same time. What town benefit is there to pointing out you are annoying me continuously? It just spams the thread.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:28 pm
by OnTheMark
In post 4712, Shaziro wrote:I can't be the only one getting loads of scum from OTM, can I?
Oh yay...Naked scum reads because of my predecessor...So exciting.
Here let me show you how many fucks I give since we're so far ahead right now............................................................................................
Fucks unable to load. Please see your nearest worried scumfuck for fucks.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:30 pm
by OnTheMark
In post 4715, pidgey wrote:At this point id lynch OTM or Bu. Followed by klazam probably.
I'm SO SHOCKED the people I scumread want to mislynch me.
Please someone hold back the shocks before no one gets electrocuted due to surprise.
/obvious sarcasm
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:20 pm
by Joey_
a new day just started and we still have no activity, its pretty clear scum is coasting this
Mark being sarcastic to his scumreads and calling them scum =/= being an asshole. can we not, please. :>
Joey: who do you mean?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:21 pm
by Shaziro
VOTE: OnTheMark
I never said my vote on you was because of your predecessor. I actually townread Titus for quite a while, and my opinion on her only started to change towards the end. Furthermore, -you- have acted distinctly scummy. You are a better player than the kind of player that would "Just go ahead and read what my slot said before I claim anything". I'm also fairly sure that you've got a history of outright -refusing- to backread on replacing in, which makes it suspicious that you would do it now imo. So instead of trying to claim my reads are for reasons they aren't in order to discredit them, start acting town or start prepping for the dead thread so far as I'm concerned.