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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:27 pm
by RH9
In post 4669, GuiltyLion wrote:here's a question for Andante voters

who are marci/Andante's two buddies

it kinda feels to me like voting Andante is somewhat of a cop out today. There's still gonna be the core underlying tension between the HQ/Shiro pair, GL, RH9/Alyssa... like we'll still have to litigate this issue even if Andante flips scum. so I don't understand why voting Andante is a better option than hashing out what we think is going on with HQ/Shiro hard town locking each other, Titus and Datisi being universally townread, and no one really scumreading Galron/S_S anymore.

and I feel like I'm boxed in this weird position by HQ, because she townreads a bunch of slots, and she treats it like it's inherently scummy for me to suspect those slots, so it puts me in a position where scumreading anybody is going to be something she'll use against me, whether it's her slot or Alyssa/RH9 pair or whoever
I'm not voting Andante and I probably won't, but that is a good question. I know that it isn't me. So who else? It leaves a PoE of Alyssa (who I TR), Firebringer (who I TR too), Shiro, HQ, GL and STD.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:28 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
In post 4697, GuiltyLion wrote:ok, but then she also
actually
proposed to me

so if you're claiming that clears you then it should also clear me
the situation wasn't the same at all

I specifically asked if that was a tilt propose because she literally did it in the same post where she commented on you suiciding in a pairing with her or something of that nature

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:28 pm
by GuiltyLion
In post 4699, Firebringer wrote:GL i think u shold consider alyssa town for forseeable future
I think I'm just trying to do my homework

cause like I probably wind up ultimately yeeting Shiro/HQ here

but if that flips T-T then we are in some serious trouble

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:30 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
idk if a Shiro/HQ TvT flip even does anything for me

that info is mostly useless to me atm

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:33 pm
by Firebringer
i dont think any T/T flips help me with any info besides needing a reaccessment check. I am concerned about a Shiro/HQ T/T flip

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:35 pm
by Firebringer
I wish I heard some convincing andante scum takes so i could justify leaving here but really only reason i would leave right now is because some people want andante dead and like GL said it seems people are just being extremely lazy with that read/position. U have people like HQ just going "andante not doing anything".

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:36 pm
by Harley Quinn
In post 4702, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 4699, Firebringer wrote:GL i think u shold consider alyssa town for forseeable future
I think I'm just trying to do my homework

cause like I probably wind up ultimately yeeting Shiro/HQ here

but if that flips T-T then we are in some serious trouble
Then don’t because I hard tr Shiro.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
I don't think I'd be all that surprised to see a Shiro/HQ TvT flip

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:45 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 4686, GuiltyLion wrote:would def be interested in Smart's thoughts there based on the PT too
There's not much in the PT. I've tried to keep it that way.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:46 pm
by Firebringer
In post 4707, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I don't think I'd be all that surprised to see a Shiro/HQ TvT flip
things like this make me thing we are going to lose

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:46 pm
by Titus
In post 4707, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I don't think I'd be all that surprised to see a Shiro/HQ TvT flip
They're flipping T v T.

This whole interaction has just tanked my Datisi read.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:48 pm
by Firebringer
Datisi/GL is town.
I don't know how many people are going to try to push that option before the door is completely shut but we need to shut that door.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:58 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
In post 4709, Firebringer wrote:
In post 4707, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I don't think I'd be all that surprised to see a Shiro/HQ TvT flip
things like this make me thing we are going to lose
me thinking that pairing can be TvT makes you think town isn't going to win?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:58 pm
by Firebringer
In post 4712, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 4709, Firebringer wrote:
In post 4707, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I don't think I'd be all that surprised to see a Shiro/HQ TvT flip
things like this make me thing we are going to lose
me thinking that pairing can be TvT makes you think town isn't going to win?
yep

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:02 pm
by Galron
I'm 30 pages behind and traveling and doin family stuff. Saw the flip. Thought norwee was scum so wrong there.

Going to
vla through 27 December
bc I don't know how present I'll be.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:03 pm
by Harley Quinn
In post 4713, Firebringer wrote:
In post 4712, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 4709, Firebringer wrote:
In post 4707, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I don't think I'd be all that surprised to see a Shiro/HQ TvT flip
things like this make me thing we are going to lose
me thinking that pairing can be TvT makes you think town isn't going to win?
yep
Why? Maybe your reads are wrong, like they were in Pokemon?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:03 pm
by Alyssa The Lamb
now I really want to leave

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:04 pm
by Firebringer
u better not u nerd

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:07 pm
by Shiro
Fire

I really think we have scum in Datisi and guilty

And Ydras is also scum. It's useless to say that I know because we need 2nd dance with her not night killed but still. Keep it in mind if I die.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:07 pm
by Shiro
U Def town though that's good. Can be sure about Andante

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:08 pm
by Shiro
I remeber townreadin her but I dunno why.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:08 pm
by Firebringer
No one agrees on everything.
I am starting to think no one leaving is showing how no one is able to compromise in this playerlist actually. Players more likely to compromise probably have greater propensity to leaving.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:08 pm
by Harley Quinn
In post 4718, Shiro wrote:Fire

I really think we have scum in Datisi and guilty

And Ydras is also scum. It's useless to say that I know because we need 2nd dance with her not night killed but still. Keep it in mind if I die.
Why is Ydra scum?

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:08 pm
by Firebringer
In post 4721, Firebringer wrote:No one agrees on *everything.
*anything

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 7:13 pm
by Shiro
In post 4722, Harley Quinn wrote:
In post 4718, Shiro wrote:Fire

I really think we have scum in Datisi and guilty

And Ydras is also scum. It's useless to say that I know because we need 2nd dance with her not night killed but still. Keep it in mind if I die.
Why is Ydra scum?
Something felt off initially as I told you in Pt but like that was vibes. It sealed it for me her vote on us after Taly