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VOTE: Mirhawk
Not a townread and with less than 3 days left we're running out of time to shift if that were necessary.

Another day wasted weeeeeeee~

↑ dramonic wrote:Another day wasted weeeeeeee~

Would a Mirhawk scum flip change anything for you?

I don't expect a mirhawk scum flip

I know you don't. In the event you are wrong though, would it have an effect on any of your reads?

I will only be appeased by a tpp lynch

Well it means I'm probably wrong about one of my reads, clearly?

Namelt that Mirhawk is town.

↑ Cerberus v666 wrote:I know you don't. In the event you are wrong though, would it have an effect on any of your reads?

↑ dramonic wrote:Well it means I'm probably wrong about one of my reads, clearly?

Dramonic is sassy today

I finally had a chance to dig into Marquis case on Mirhawk from 4439. And I'm not voting there.

The thing is, Marquis, most of what you're accusing Mirhawk of just isn't accurate. You're saying he's acting inconsistent with respect to his reads, but I don't see that. He had Skybird as a scum read from early on D1, and never came off that. The one post you quoted, where Mirhawk agrees (with FS) that your point against Skybird for unvoting after pistacion was mod-cleared wasn't really a point, doesn't change that. He can think that's not a valid point without it being a defense of Skybird and I didn't read it that way. It's more an expression of skepticism against you, which is something else he's been consistent on.

He also hasn't flipped-flopped on Cakez as far as I can tell. He's called Cakez scum for a long time and that hasn't changed. And I guess I'm more sympathetic than you are to the idea that he could lose enthusiasm for the vote when no one else seemed interested in voting the same way. I also don't read Mirhawk's post as him "immediately believing" TPP's claim about Cakez. I read it as "why would you say this (TPP) if what you are saying is true..." He's criticizing TPP (and not simply believing him). I also think the way TPP acted around that whole "reveal" was strange. The post asking Cakez not to vig him looked mostly like a joke.

Aside from that, I'm seeing suspicion for him not 100% accepting your claim at face value, which is kind of ehh. I think he's being overly paranoid, but the fact is, you be pulling some kind of scum-gambit, and I don't think he's seriously arguing that, just reminding people of it. So, you can get on him for that, but he's not wrong. And I'm not sure what advantage he gets as scum in that spot. And his posts around your fake-miller claim, which I also don't find scummy.

There's just not that much there. And I agree with a lot more of Mirhawk's posts than I disagree with, which probably isn't true for most of the people in this game.

Frankly, I think everything you thought was suspicious about Mirhawk applies like 2x over to SirCakez.

↑ podoboq wrote:

↑ SirCakez wrote:I'm aware I'm not scumhunting right now Mirhawk and it's largely because everyone wants TPP/FS dead and those are both fairly strong town reads of mine so its making it difficult.

I'd really like an Axel wagon

You could always make a case on Mirhawk, you know, the leading wagon, which you were voting for. But instead you're complaining about how we're all voting for town (when you're on the leading wagon), and then starting a new vanity wagon with three days on the clock.

What?

I cased Mirhawk a while ago and nothing has really changed.
I'll probably go back to Mir for deadline but I'm trying to branch out.

↑ podoboq wrote:

↑ SirCakez wrote:Yesyesyesyesyes
VOTE: Mirhawk

↑ SirCakez wrote:Why is it so hard to form a Mirhawk wagon all of a sudden? Marquis has a pretty solid case.

↑ SirCakez wrote:I'm aware I'm not scumhunting right now Mirhawk and it's largely because everyone wants TPP/FS dead and those are both fairly strong town reads of mine so its making it difficult.

I'd really like an Axel wagon

↑ SirCakez wrote:VOTE: Axelrod
You guys should join this! I know there's a bunch of people with scumreads on this guy and he's basically coasting.

What changed?

See my above post

Mirhawk should claim

I don't see any harm in claiming, as scum were never going to shoot me anyways. I'm a vanilla townie.

Yer in trouble. Crumb for ogre.

Flavor?

VOTE: mirhawk

This seems more viable than FS atm

If Mirhawk is scum, I'd expect Cakez to be scum too

I think strictly the opposite, interestingly enough.

CAKEZ IZ TOWNZ

↑ Mirhawk wrote:I don't see any harm in claiming, as scum were never going to shoot me anyways. I'm a vanilla townie.

Yer in trouble. Crumb for ogre.

Is there a reason why you left out your role/musical from this? Also, didn't you say your role didn't match your flavor? How does that fit with vanilla townie?

↑ pistachi0n wrote:VOTE: mirhawk

This seems more viable than FS atm

If Mirhawk is scum, I'd expect Cakez to be scum too

This doesn't make sense, we've been at each other's throats the whole game

↑ SirCakez wrote:Flavor?

↑ Axelrod wrote:

↑ Mirhawk wrote:I don't see any harm in claiming, as scum were never going to shoot me anyways. I'm a vanilla townie.

Yer in trouble. Crumb for ogre.

Is there a reason why you left out your role/musical from this? Also, didn't you say your role didn't match your flavor? How does that fit with vanilla townie?

Y

wtf... That was intended as "you two are apparently illiterate"

I keeping my flavor to myself on the odd chance that I might not die shortly. Ogre may or may not want to do shenanigans with it.

It doesn't really matter in any case, as a VT it's more or less impossible for my flavor to have anything to do with my role.

To be honest, my flavor actually would imply that I'm a cop. But sadly I am not.

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