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The_Jester - MiniDeathStar [0] -
Human Sequencer - Parama [4] - Dunnstral, Ser Arthur Dayne, Kagami, Human Sequencer
Ser Arthur Dayne - inspectorscout [1] - Parama
mhsmith0 - pieguyn [1] - inspectorscout
Dunnstral - Kagami [0] -

Not Voting [4]

- The_Jester, pieguyn, mhsmith0, MiniDeathStar

With 10 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch

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In post 4666, The_Jester wrote:

@Mod please try to find a replacement.

FYI, probably gonna slank most of the day and pop back in tonight.

In post 4548, pieguyn wrote:actually hang on.

it would mean SAD and Parama went for a mass-distancing play, whereas Jester went and decided to put them both in his town pile (1064, 1911).

this seems kind of ??? to me.

Well, if jester is scum and put ~any~ scum in his scum pile, it would have to be smith. That makes townsmith scumjester seem pretty unlikely since it implies jester took a townread-on-buddies approach from a heavily scumread position.

I have to go over SAD again, if someone wants to highlight any particularly interesting someone-else -> SAD interactions they remember, that would be nice as otherwise I'm ctrl-f-ing "SAD" in isos, which.

which is imprecise and laborious.

Make sure you use 'Arthur' for mine, I've been using 'Arthur' all game.

In post 4624, pieguyn wrote:Kagami, is 4620 something you've signed off on or is that something Dunn came up with entirely independently of what we've been talking about?

I do not fail to notice that if we're in the Dunn/Jester pair/SAD pair gamestate - which I'm starting to believe is increasingly more likely because MDS and Parama are sending town signals, even though they're slight ones - the end result of that plan is that the two town/town pairs are lynched immediately.

He posted something similar in the PT. I haven't really read it carefully even now.

In general, I don't think our pair making it to/near endgame is a particularly good idea.

There's reason to doubt dunn's alignment, though I think the perceived lack of insight into how scum might be behaving isn't really scum-indicative. I've asked him frequently about his assessment of what I'm thinking and how he interprets particular things I've said, and his interpretations of my intentions are quite wrong where I think they'd be more accurate if he knows my alignment (and there's every reason for him to appear to be on the same page as me as scum).

The bigger issue is that doubt regarding my alignment makes it more difficult to execute things.

Kagami, check out Arthur's interactions with me in particular. I think he calls me MDS but he quotes things from me, too, so MiniDeathStar should work as well.

I'm kind of being lazy here because I have work to do, but my inclination is to go with my original plan, with my death first and let sad-scout take charge if dunn flips town, piesmith take charge if dunn flips scum.

Id say lynch sad-scout first in the case of dunn-scum, but generally things to consider in further lynch order is to first lynch people who are A) likely to resist the plan even as town, B) likely to be in a scum-scum pairing, C) Might give unexpected info with their pair's flip (e.g. MDS flipping scum instead of Jester)

Sorry, but I don't see any reality where letting arthur/scout take charge as a good reality, and the fact that you believe that to be a good idea is telling.

telling what?

I was gonna say you were setting us up to die and then have sad/scout steamroll town, but then I realized your flip would invalidate you if you really were scum anyway.

In post 4734, Kagami wrote:I'm kind of being lazy here because I have work to do, but my inclination is to go with my original plan, with my death first and let sad-scout take charge if dunn flips town, piesmith take charge if dunn flips scum.

I'm okay with this. I doubt Dunn/Kagami pair is scum at this point.

Wait if Parama flips scum -> lynch Jester/MDS (scum flip) -> Dunn/Kagami flips town we're in lylo -> lynch mhsmith (scum flip) -> Win ???

No, because we're in lylo and smith is a town lynch.

In the off-chance Parama flips town lynching me next means lost game to mhsmith/(MDS/Jester)/(Dunn/Kagami).

I doubt inspector is scum with mhsmith or Dunn, and I have an independent townread on Kagami.

In post 4740, Human Sequencer wrote:No, because we're in lylo and smith is a town lynch.

You realize you're setting up town to lose if Parama flips town I hope you know that right.

If Parama flips scum at least it would be less stupid to lynch me as it won't end the game and then we still have a chance of winning in a lylo with (Dunn/Kagami) (Jester/MDS) (mhsmith/pie) and then I don't have to make any miserable choices that could lose the game in lylo or near endgame and I get to blame someone else post game if we lose heh.

In what reality exactly are you town with Parama and so far scum haven't taken advantage of your fight to push a lynch on one of you?

MDS picking up my reality nomenclature on top of my black hole phrase.
Stealin' yo gurl jester~

In post 4743, MiniDeathStar wrote:In what reality exactly are you town with Parama and so far scum haven't taken advantage of your fight to push a lynch on one of you?

In a reality where they're happy sitting back and waiting for one of us to get lynched...

Like I honestly think Parama will flip scum because her push on me reeks of scum trying to get me out now because they're afraid I'll endgame them (even if it means Parama-scum dies after I flip - she already achieved her purpose), but there is still a reality where scum can sit back and just watch the town on town fight knowing there's an extremely high chance one of them will get lynched.

PARALLEL REALITIES

i haven't really read much and probably won't have time to until tonight if at all but I had to meme

I feel like a lot of people are missing the point here.

I'm requesting on no uncertain terms that if I leave (before any one else flips) and dunn flips town, the rest of the town follows SAD-scout, and that in the case where Dunn flips scum, town follows piesmith.

If people disagree with this, then they need to raise objections in the form of plausible configurations of scum that have Kagami-Dunn as T-T and sad-scout containing a scummo, or a configuration of scum with dunn as scum and piesmith containing a scummo.

Anybody countering with kagami is scum are stupid, and if they really believe that, then they should go along with me on this for obvious reasons.