Fun fact, that lil thing I did to make the VCAs less bloated and easier to read?
Its good for debunking stuff like this...
In post 4655, Cephrir wrote:i kinda feel like mastina's lack of participation is getting to the point of just being scum, but idk. i guess pushing me all game gives her cover to not actually vote the partners she's been bussing?
Spoiler: Because I can highlight every single one of Mastinas votes.
In post 4728, Roden wrote:I think Mastina and Ceph are both town tbh.
Ceph is also highlighted in there if you wanna peek yourself. <3
And toogs the point is, it gets nowhere and does nothin.
-Pinkie
I see the case with the votes, but tonally he's felt townie to me. He's had these moments of nuance and reasoning that pinged me the same way Mush would. Like with Mush it would go back and forth from scum to town, but it would do too many things that would go against a scum agenda, and I feel like Ceph has done the same all game.
And actually, speaking of Mush I feel like Ceph would've had that slot killed way sooner. It blocked a lot of his efforts to do things he wanted, like getting certain players elim'd, getting a claim out of the Bears, and just generally putting pressure on Ceph and threatening to vote him out multiple times. I think scum wanted both of them around to keep them opposed to each other.
vote counts are a poor way to determine anyone's alignment
particularly just poi9nting at them and declaring a read on that basis. anyone can arrive at any read on anyone by staring at them long enough. please read motivations.
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:01 pm
by Cephrir
the only way you can make vca worse is by randomly preflipping me while you do it.
I'm...not sure why this would change anything. Why does that make you think I'm town? Like I know this just makes me look argumentative, but I wouldn't be the one making the kill if I was scum because I would likely get RB'd by town, it would probably be a deep wolf doing the kill instead. I also don't get why you would admit to being a PR but it's probably anti-town to discuss that.
I don't think you're scum at this point since I think Dunn's ISO TMI's you, Andante, and Mala as town.
It was a one shot ability.
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:02 pm
by Save The Dragons
Ceph is town
Ceph is not dying today
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:02 pm
by The Three Bears
im like skimming along a lot but toog how dare you. flea is carrying the whole team. i'd throw my ice cream at you but i already ate it all >.<
I'm...not sure why this would change anything. Why does that make you think I'm town? Like I know this just makes me look argumentative, but I wouldn't be the one making the kill if I was scum because I would likely get RB'd by town, it would probably be a deep wolf doing the kill instead. I also don't get why you would admit to being a PR but it's probably anti-town to discuss that.
I don't think you're scum at this point since I think Dunn's ISO TMI's you, Andante, and Mala as town.
It was a one shot ability.
we dont believe you but we can talk about this tomorrow.
In post 4692, Toogeloo wrote:Scum are running out of wiggle room. I think today might be a good day for mass flavor claim.
im not really feeling like reading stuff rn but if we do this, we are going second to last. we're only second to catboi.
Of course Noraa chooses to not feel like reading stuff
just
as I'm posting.
D: I'm reading im reading now
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:25 pm
by The Three Bears
In post 4691, mastina wrote:The latter does not support the former since I've been voting Ceph basically the entire time. I was voting Ceph until YOU asked me to vote Dunn yesterday, you may recall.
but what if ceph is actually town!
-noraa
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:26 pm
by The Three Bears
In post 4701, mastina wrote:I sheeped you (on a secondary scumread that was your primary), you wanna sheep me (on a primary scumread that is your secondary)?
i dont think cephrir goes through today and also prefer tictac but i'll give you our vote for funsies for now anyways VOTE: cephrir
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:27 pm
by The Three Bears
In post 4703, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The previous argument that Tictac wagon too easy was laughable btw.
We have 2 scum dead so it’s not like there will be a lot of scum sway over wagons at this point. If scum get’s run up then they are likely getting run up.
its not laughable. scum is typically harder to elim even if no scum buddies exist. because scum's wincon is surviving. town's wincon doesnt require them to be alive.
In post 4703, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The previous argument that Tictac wagon too easy was laughable btw.
We have 2 scum dead so it’s not like there will be a lot of scum sway over wagons at this point. If scum get’s run up then they are likely getting run up.
its not laughable. scum is typically harder to elim even if no scum buddies exist. because scum's wincon is surviving. town's wincon doesnt require them to be alive.
Technically false. Scum win through death, town win by surviving. The team that wins is the team that wipes out the opposition. Scum technically wipe out town once they reach 50% because town can't stop it.
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:32 pm
by The Three Bears
ok honestly, im not willing to eliminate massy anytime too soon. she really stuck it out on the ircher and dunn wagons. if she's really scum, life sucks ass and thats just lovely and there's nothing you can do.
like i am scared by that read accuracy but i also think that point is exaggerated. cephrir was scumread by literally all of the flipped town. i dont really feel like they are scum together so im inclined to say cephrir is the scum of the two. Maybe massy is 3p but i dont think scum.
