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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 12:08 am

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Spolium wrote:
qwints wrote:He hasn't posted yet; lurking at this point is very suspicious.
Good case you have there.

I haven't had much to say because I've been busy with a couple of other games.

I'm curious to know what PhilyEc meant by his suggestion that SSK would pick me. I would note that in the game where he and I were scum (Root of all Evil) I got vig'd on the first night, so I doubt he'd be particularly confident in choosing me.
I'm merely basing it on how you've done well so far thus he'd
i) Want to take out good asset towards scumhunts.
ii) Can't pick Xyl as it would be very risky considering hes the most effective player in the game.
iii) Picking Gorrad, Riceball or Qwints would be less effective in my opinion. Qwints would show scum traits even if he wasnt scum (suprisingly hes being rather town atm, this could be temporary) and RBT, theres nothing I can go on on that person.

Thus you're most likely the next SK for ze moment to me~ I know it sucks but I gotta think things through like, the meta info does help but that might've just been bad luck rather than you revealing yourself enough during the game.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 1:20 am

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Fair enough, I can understand that.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 4:20 am

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MOD: As of this point, I will be V/LA until Sunday evening.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 5:23 am

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Okay, I have a town read on PhilyEc.

Who's next...?
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 12:55 pm

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Here's what I'm thinking:

Xyl is cleared. I see no reason whatsoever to clear Phily or Mafiaplayer.

1. Phily wasn't outted until today, so has as good a chance of being SK as any of us.
2. Mafiaplayer is like Xtoxm and Blackberry- so scummy that the odds of him being lynched is low.
3. Mafiaplayer, as a claimed mason, has in my eyes a significantly increased chance of being chosen.

I also really dislike Phily's dismissal of qwints and riceball. For one thing, I find that as scum/power role I have a significantly higher participation rate than as town. Simply put, I have more at stake when not a vanilla, so I pay more attention to the game.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 4:43 pm

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I have a very strong towntell on Philly. No lynching him.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 6:28 pm

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Care to share?
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 6:32 pm

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Gorrad wrote:Care to share?
I'd rather keep it effective in case it comes up again. :)
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 6:39 pm

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Then you'll excuse me as I don't decrease my suspicion.
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 7:07 pm

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You doubt my competence? :(
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 7:15 pm

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What I've seen shows a trend towards it, but considering that this is our first game together I'm not ready to take your word just yet.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Fri May 01, 2009 8:30 pm

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Gorrad wrote:I also really dislike Phily's dismissal of qwints and riceball.

I'm merely comparing which person would be more effective, for example. If I were to pick qwints I'd be hoping to god he doesnt look like SK as he did last round. If I were to pick RBT I'd hope inactivity would be a major issue no one would notice. For Spoilum neither of these two problems exist, hes a good solid player and I'd definately choose him as SK.
Gorrad even Spoilum gets where I'm coming from, I'd assume Xyl does too since he seems to oppose anything that seems dodgy, are you trying to avoid a future lynch? You are number two on my list afterall.
Gorrad wrote:For one thing, I find that as scum/power role I have a significantly higher participation rate than as town. Simply put, I have more at stake when not a vanilla, so I pay more attention to the game.
*(steals away for future)*
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 2:25 am

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We have three lynches, worst case scenario, left to us. To me, your post looks like trying to mislynch one with a setup on another, dismissing several people who could EASILY be SK as well.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 5:01 am

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Oh my god I just thought of something.
Isn't it possible that the new SK ISN'T a mason with someone, since picking a mason seemed like what he was going to do?
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 7:55 am

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Mafiaplayer wrote:Oh my god I just thought of something.
Isn't it possible that the new SK ISN'T a mason with someone, since picking a mason seemed like what he was going to do?
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 5:48 am

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Gorrad wrote:We have three lynches, worst case scenario, left to us. To me, your post looks like trying to mislynch one with a setup on another, dismissing several people who could EASILY be SK as well.
Thats fair enough, I was trying to show my thought process before it was asked for but thats neither here nor there in the world of fact. I always do this ftw when deciding who I'd like to see go.

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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 7:52 am

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I want to see more contribution from riceballtail and spolium.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 8:09 am

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I could have sex with this new avatar...
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 12:23 am

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Hmm, I remember Spoilum saying he'd post something around Sunday evening, now its going into Monday afternoon here in Ireland. Post soon mon~
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 2:55 am

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Patience, yeh big eejit. :P

Sorry for the delay. I was at an Aikido seminar for two days straight and last night I was too exhausted to do anything other than give my games (one of which has hit a new day earlier than I expected) a once-over.

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PhilyEc wrote:I remember seeing Spoilum actively modding one of his games yet not posting here after the night.
As I already said, I was busy with a couple of other games (one of which saw a burst of activity recently).
PhilyEc wrote:Gorrad even Spoilum gets where I'm coming from, I'd assume Xyl does too since he seems to oppose anything that seems dodgy, are you trying to avoid a future lynch?
QFT.

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Gorrad wrote:We have three lynches, worst case scenario, left to us. To me, your post looks like trying to mislynch one with a setup on another, dismissing several people who could EASILY be SK as well.
I initially thought QFT to this as well, then I realised the problem is that we're essentially at D1 again. With the exception of a few claims we have no nightkill with which to assess the town reliably. Phily is relying a bit more on circumstantial evidence and consequently arrives at myself and Gorrad. It's reasonable enough for the information we have.

I will note that qwints' current behaviour, while apparently more pro-town than in D1, is a change in behaviour nonetheless and gets a raised eyebrow regardless.
Gorrad wrote:3. Mafiaplayer, as a claimed mason, has in my eyes a significantly increased chance of being chosen.
We should be wary of basing our assessment of a lynch choice on "who might SSK have picked". It was a good way to kickstart today's discussion but there's far too much WIFOM there.

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Isn't it possible that the new SK ISN'T a mason with someone, since picking a mason seemed like what he was going to do?
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 4:32 am

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Spolium wrote:Patience, yeh big eejit. :P

Sorry for the delay. I was at an Aikido seminar for two days straight and last night I was too exhausted to do anything other than give my games (one of which has hit a new day earlier than I expected) a once-over.
[Flails] Sorry Spoilum, Im a bitch with timing :) I shall read ze rest now~
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 5:02 am

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Spoilum wrote:I initially thought QFT to this as well, then I realised the problem is that we're essentially at D1 again. With the exception of a few claims we have no nightkill with which to assess the town reliably. Phily is relying a bit more on circumstantial evidence and consequently arrives at myself and Gorrad. It's reasonable enough for the information we have.
Hence why my thought process is the best I can deal with, obviously I'm not sure enough to vote for someone due to speculation alone. At the moment the suspicion-gap between Spoilum and Gorrad is closing, Gorrad could soon earn my vote but this is just a passing thought at the moment.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 6:02 am

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I have no problem with being a suspect. My issue was that the process of elimination used looked like it was a setup for a one-two mislynch. If y'all disagree, fine by me, that's the vibe I got.
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Gorrad wrote:3. Mafiaplayer, as a claimed mason, has in my eyes a significantly increased chance of being chosen.
We should be wary of basing our assessment of a lynch choice on "who might SSK have picked". It was a good way to kickstart today's discussion but there's far too much WIFOM there.
As for who SSK might have picked, I agree that we need to be wary about it and that it has a strong WIFOM element, but considering that we now only have three pages from which to deduce scummy behavior, it's still something to go on.

You also misrepresented me. I did not base what you quoted on what SSK might have done. That was one of three things which I used to counter Phily's idea that he and Mafiaplayer were cleared. It was not regarding a lynch choice, and it was not the base of an argument. Misrepresentation is one of the scumtells I put a lot of weight in, along with commenting on night kills and voting patterns.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 6:10 am

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I was questioning any course of action taken (or conclusion reached) due to speculation over who SSK was likely to pick, or not. That's it.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2009 6:25 am

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Let's not lynch anyone just yet please.
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