Mini #138 Space and Sci Fi Mini-Mafia- FINALLY DONE!

[Crola]

also he alsostated that whole 50% thing which could easily be BS

Vote Coron

I don't trust phoebus, which is technically Coron

[Internet Stranger]

Jedi, since you have these magic powers of insight. How could I somehow make up a role of cloner just out of my ass like that and have it happen that there is also a cloner without a role name lurking about as well?

Dont you think that its an extremely amazing coincidence? Not only would I have had to make up a cloner, but hope that the one I made up wasnt in the game? Which its likely, since its me.

[jediknight]

So I've proved myself...its time for you to prove yourself. Which you could have done by raising or attempting to raise viqules last night. That's what I find suspicious two characters that are cloners and the fact that you haven't proved diddly. I don't know IS....it could have been a guess after all a cloner fits the theme...but until you prove it then why should I or anyone believe you?

Have you raised anyone from the dead? Nope... Have I? Uh...yeah....I think I have. You had a chance to clear us both and for whatever reason you didn't even bother trying.

[Internet Stranger]

Wait a sec!

Who said Jedi's cloner is automatically a good guy?!?

It makes perfect sense, im the good guy cloner, Jedi would be a scum cloner. That would explain the lack of balance of two cloners. It would also explain why Jedi had to pull some name out of his ass, he was covering for his true evil name. He may be some sort of futuristic necromancer or an evil someone from some obscure show.

So yea, it looks like he can clone, but with what intentions. I wouldnt put it past Vraak to let the scum have a cloner so we would have to lynch the same scum every other night while they wittle us away.

[jediknight]

Please IS... Now you're just totally grasping. You can't prove your sketchy claim of 50% and now you're just looking for anything to save your skin. The point is you haven't even proved that you can clone AT ALL and we've had multiple nights. 50%? That's one out of two. Oh yeah...you decided not even to try last night. My BAD...

I am totally happy with my vote on you at this point.

[DoomCow]

Yesterday I mentioned something similar to what IS just did:

Therefore, I think we might have to deal with a cult or something like that. Maybe even one that kills and clones at night.

The more I think about it, the more confident I get about the baddies using the clones for evil. A clone comes back to life, and is immediatly clear of all suspicion. Gives the mafia at least a chance in a game with a good cloner (I doubt the mafia has 2 of 'em), a roleblocker (according to IS), multiple cops (borg/tok'ra), bodyguard (Maximus), and the other pro-town roles. Also, it makes Crola's role more interesting (self-resurrection beats cloning I assume) I think it might be a bit premature to declare CoolBot a definate good guy for now.

[Save The Dragons]

Wait a sec!

Who said Jedi's cloner is automatically a good guy?!?

It makes perfect sense, im the good guy cloner, Jedi would be a scum cloner. That would explain the lack of balance of two cloners. It would also explain why Jedi had to pull some name out of his ass, he was covering for his true evil name. He may be some sort of futuristic necromancer or an evil someone from some obscure show.

So yea, it looks like he can clone, but with what intentions. I wouldnt put it past Vraak to let the scum have a cloner so we would have to lynch the same scum every other night while they wittle us away.

Wtf?

Seriously, what makes you even think that there is a good and bad cloner? And what should make us think that you are the good guy cloner while Jedi is the bad one?

It makes no sense.

Confirm vote: IS

[CoolBot]

It makes sense to me that both Jedi & IS are cloners, but one's scum. I really don't think anyone's cleared as of yet, and I'm not inclined lynch IS on Jedi's say so.

[Crola]

I don't think we should trust anyone, I think you're all liars and murderers fisrt off

second off, I don't believe that IS or Jedi tells the truth, if we kill one, and theat one was innocent, then we'll kill the other, but will they be innocent as well?

Do we trust Vraak X when he says "The person you just killed wasn;t who you were looking for." How do we know he isn't misleading us?

normally I'd ask a cop to anylise the two "cloners," but I don't trust Coolbot after his ressurection, or even before it for that matter, he wanted Maximus dead so badly and he was a townie! A TOWNIE! He reeks of scum!
also, Sycko might be a cop, but he doesn't find innocence, only to a point

I figure, since I can't trust anyone here, you might as well be able to trust me, here's my role to it's fullest

I am Fenix, I have no kills and I'm a townie. If I die, I am resurected as a Dragoon. If I die again, game over. This is my role.

Now, if Sycko's clearing me wasn't enough to prove my innocence, that should suffice

you don't have to believe me, but you should, I think it's important to know you can trust someone, and I think the fact that you jerks lynched me and I came back should prove this

I say we put the rather risky cloning situation on hold for now until enough evidence is brought in to lynch someone accordingly

my vote still stands on Coron

[Coron]

Don't we have investigative roles that should have checked this out?(cloner thing)

[Save The Dragons]

Crola...parts of your post was excessive, unnecessary, extreme, blind, and isolating. If it weren't you, I'd find it highly suspicious. And I like to know what you see in Coron, both with and without Phoebus involved.

It's all well and good you all think IS may be who he says he is. Cloning evil bad guys? Necromancy? Please, this game is complicated enough. One of you are telling the truth, one of you are lying. I'm 95% sure of that. And with that 95% certainty, I'm 95% sure IS is the bad one. Jedi has cloned someone, and it seems to me IS is spewing bullshit about a cult of revived dead people. You have my permission to smack me if that is the case, but I'm going to doubt it.

IS: The fact that you hoped there was no other cloner in the game doesn't change the probability. I'll admit, it's quite a coincedence, but I'd need a little proof. The problem is, proof's going to be hard to come by, especially with that nice 50% to easily fall back on. I don't know what possessed you to decide to not clone Viqules, because even if it was someone else's idea, it was a bad idea (no offense), and I suspect you to be smarter than that.

If you all think IS is telling the truth, fine. Who else is out there? I don't see nothing on nobody.

[Save The Dragons]

Vraak said he'd be gone until the 21st, but he'll have a back-up mod for his games...

Do we have one?

[Internet Stranger]

We could always lynch a lurker I guess. But the only way this fits is if Jedi is the evil cloner. How convinient that StD doesnt explain away Jedi's crappy role name. In fact, everyone seems to ignore the fact that so far everyone is a named character, except Jedi.

He is covering for something, im sure of it. Yes he can clone, but im telling you, it has to be for evil nefarious purposes. Either lynch him or lynch a lurker. Ill be trying to bring them back anyways.

[Crola]

If we lynch IS and he is indeed who he says he is and he's a townie, then what? Do we lynch Jedi? If StD is 95% sure that one of them is evil, then it would only helpful if we killed Jedi if IS is innocent, cuz Jedi should be scum, correct?

but, if IS is good, how many of us would be willing to kill Jedi? I for one would be hesitent because even if he has the chance of being evil, he's still a cloner and can clone good or bad

who says that cloning is good? How do we know the cloners aren't the bad guys? THey could be making a clone army (I think Doomcow mentioned a cult theory)

I say we lynch IS for now, if he's good we lynch Jedi
If IS is bad, I might even suggest lynching Jedi due to his crappy name claim, among other things

Unvote Coron, Vote Internet Stranger

unless we get better evidence or a better idea, I think this plan will actually be quite successful

[CoolBot]

I, for one, don't think cloning necessarily means good. I won't vote for IS, though, since I found him innocent. I realize I may not be sane, but until I find evidence I'm not, I won't assume so.

Don't we have investigative roles that should have checked this out?(cloner thing)

Well, I was dead for two nights, and I already investigated IS. I have no idea why sycko hasn't.

[Coron]

VOTE: STEWIE

I don't see why you would have a made up role unlike the rest of the people I know.

[Coron]

unvote vote: Jedi

oops

[Save The Dragons]

IS: Sycko doesn't even have a name. That's a discrepency. Has he proven his innocence to you?

I don't find it that odd that the mod would play something like this. You do recall Oval Office.

And there's reasons why I'm 95% sure, not 100%.

[Crola]

Hey, IS, Viqles didn't have a name either, he was just high authority Klingon, so don't point fingers at people who don't have a name, because we know perfectly well that Vraak X has given role with no names already

[Internet Stranger]

Like I could remember that far back. Either way, you want to be sure of what youre doing before you lynch me. How about having Coolbot investigate Jedi tonight and see what he gets? Or Crola/Coron, whichever one does so too?

Maybe that will prove my innocence better and get you all off me. You all conviniently forget that I somehow miracoulsly guessed that a cloner was a valid role AND I already have a cleared investigation on me. I dont know what else I can do today to satisfy you bloodthristy savages. Youre better off pikcing someone else randomly, your odds of finding scum will be better there than the 0% you get from me.

[Crola]

IS, I don't know if we can trust the clones, for all we know if a townie is cloned, there clone is now part of the cult (if there is a cult)
as of now, coolbot is useless to the town, maybe he's an insane cop now, who knows?

my point is, we know Jedi can clone whether he's good or bad
you, IS, I'm not so sure if we should trust you yet, yur claim is an amazingly good one, and had Jedi not proven himself, I would believe you more than I do now
but right now, I don't know what you are

[CoolBot]

So Crola, do you have any sorta proof that I'm useless? Or are you just over reaching once again? I freely admit that I might be insane or paranoid when I get alignment results instead of role name, but I don't assume so. And remember, I know Coron's role.

Here's a plan I thought up: we lynch IS. If IS appears innocent, we know my sanity and Jedi can start the process of reviving IS. If not, we know I'm paranoid or insane when I don't receive role names, and Jedi can revive Maximus or viq, which ever he feels is the better option. What's everyone think?

[Save The Dragons]

My vote speaks for itself.

[Crola]

WAIT! OMG, I think I actually have an IDEA!


I think I know why we haven't been attacked so much lately. Maybe because Viqles was like an ambassador some mafia couldn't attack. But when he died, they could attack.
I've seen that before when two mafia's can't attack eachother until the delegates die.
Heck, I could be horribly wrong but I say we revive Viqles anyway, it's not like he's mafia, so maybe revie him first

this doesn't seem right though, why would Vraak X create cloners, these days will never end, it would make much more sense if one of them were evil
so, if we kill IS and he's good, will we kill Jedi? or will we have Jedi revive IS and then we kill Jedi?
If IS is indeed good and who he says he is, I say we have Jedi veive him, then we lynch Jedi, and if he's good too then we have IS revive him
how does that sound? I think it's a preety good plan

[Coron]

Unless Cloner is like a cult role....