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That's all we get after no content in a billion days?

Zinger2099 wrote:

Amrun wrote:We need some Zinger in this thread.

Ask and you shall receive!

Unvote

(did I have a vote?),

vote: smargaret

DISCUSS!

anticlimax

oh look. lurkerscum.

Parama wrote:oh look. lurkerscum.

+1

Amrun wrote:Why don't you, bobsnox?

I do, I just don't see how both ani and smargaret are scumbuddies given ani's claim. The main reason I think smargaret is scum is because of how she has dealt with ani, but I don't know if that relationship makes any sense.

I really want to know why Parama thinks smargaret is scum and I want an explanation of how they are scum together. He is doing more writing me off than answering any questions I've raised. "you're too dumb" isn't an appropriate response, nor is it true. If I'm missing something, then he should fill me in. The goal is to lynch scum. If he thinks he's so spot-on with his scumreads, then you'd think he'd be able to express his reasoning to someone else. He has done so regarding ani, but (I'll double check) I haven't seen much on smargaret.

How are we missing this exchange?

bobsnox wrote:

Parama wrote:0 bcrfhj vgnlhu,. aegri t.kj

Ani can you just not post all game? I think the town will do better if you don't post, ever. Thanks in advance.

Do you know Ani's alignment?...

Parama wrote:I don't particularly care about his alignment. Regardless of alignment, he's what his title says he is.

Parama wrote:

bobsnox wrote:But...if he's scum...

Then I'll worry about him once all his buddies are dead.

How did it go from getting his buddies first to tunnel ani until he is dead? Is no one else seeing these things?



Again, if I am missing something someone fill me in. I realize Parama will be on to throw some more ad hom in my direction in the near future but if someone who has a better head on their shoulders wants to comment on my analysis, please do so.

I changed my mind, because Ani became obvious scum after jindori's flip and brief D1 analysis.
Is it illegal to change one's opinion? If so, I guess I've been scum in every single game ever and I just didn't know it, because my opinions change all the time.

Parama wrote:I changed my mind, because Ani became obvious scum after jindori's flip and brief D1 analysis.
Is it illegal to change one's opinion? If so, I guess I've been scum in every single game ever and I just didn't know it, because my opinions change all the time.

Sorry for not reading all of your games or something? Didn't know you always contradict yourself in ever game ever.

That still doesn't answer why ani has to die today over anyone else when you specifically said . Believe me, I can understand changing your mind over scumreads but you were openly to point where to be consistent with your statements. Inconsistency I can live with (no one is perfect), but acting like it's not something worth pointing out in a game where we probably have a SK is shortsighted.

That kind of behavior is what I would expect from a SK (lack of concern with alignment, tunneling ani's particular claim, not caring about possible connections between scumbuddies, etc.). I guess we can lynch ani today and see what he flips. If he's town then I'll bring this back up again tomorrow (if I'm alive <_<).

Anyway, what do you think about smargaret? What is scummy about her? Do you agree with my ISO of her?

I stopped reading after the first line.
It's not contradicting. IT'S CALLED THINKING, YOU IDIOT.

Parama wrote:I stopped reading after the first line.
It's not contradicting. IT'S CALLED THINKING, YOU IDIOT.

Intéressant de voir comment vous avez ignoré le rôle important de son poste d'ergoter sur les mots. Il s'agit en fait de droite. Vous n'avez jamais changé d'avis sur les alignements, vous avez dit que Ani est l'écume, permet de lyncher ses copains d'abord. Ensuite, vous dites permet ani lyncher parce qu'il est l'écume, après nous avons discuté de cela même s'il est d'écume ou de SK, Ani était un lynchage mauvais pour D1.

Et lorsqu'il est appelé sur elle, vous venez de rage post dos à dos, et commencer à ignorer les messages. Votre atitude agressive dans ce contexte semble très mauvais. La chose drôle est, votre "changer d'avis" événements contraire à l'intérêt de la ville.

Et bien sûr, vous y mettre un terme à appeler quelqu'un un idiot.

I didn't read his post, like I said. Should I? Hmm.

bobsnox wrote:That still doesn't answer why ani has to die today over anyone else when you specifically said

you would rather get ani's buddies first and worry about him later

. Believe me, I can understand changing your mind over scumreads but you were openly

disinterested in ani's alignment

to point where

even if you thought ani was scum you would have had to scumhunt elsewhere

to be consistent with your statements. Inconsistency I can live with (no one is perfect), but acting like it's not something worth pointing out in a game where we probably have a SK is shortsighted.

I specifically said that then. That doesn't mean I agree with what I said earlier. Guess what, wise guy, this isn't D1 anymore, and we have 3 more flips to chew on. Combine those flips with Ani's posts and we've caught a live one.

bobsnox wrote:That kind of behavior is what I would expect from a SK (lack of concern with alignment, tunneling ani's particular claim, not caring about possible connections between scumbuddies, etc.). I guess we can lynch ani today and see what he flips. If he's town then I'll bring this back up again tomorrow (if I'm alive <_<).

I didn't care about his alignment D1. I did care D2. Not D1. Man, you're thick.

bobsnox wrote:Anyway, what do you think about smargaret? What is scummy about her? Do you agree with my ISO of her?

Parama wrote:

smargaret wrote:Add to that the fact that Amrun was absent for all of day 1 - forgetting a game can happen, but when you're gone for a whole day it's suspicious, especially given the speed of the scum wagon.

DAY 1 WAS LIKE 1 RL DAY LONG
WHAT IS THIS OFFENSE TO THE EYES

smargaret wrote:

Parama wrote:ani is likely scum; tragedy push is absolutely retarded

Amrun wrote:
VOTE: animorpherv
He was trying to redirect the lynch to Tragedy yesterday and it was awful.

That looks a lot like sheeping to me, Amrun.

worthlesssssss
soooooo woooooorthleeeeeeeesssssssssss
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTHLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
make worse arguments please.

Parama wrote:Okay. Here's the deal.
People on the smargaret wagon. You help me lynch ani-scum today and I'll sheep your wagon tomorrow. Deal?

short version: not a bad lynch, not the best lynch.

Surye wrote:

Parama wrote:I stopped reading after the first line.
It's not contradicting. IT'S CALLED THINKING, YOU IDIOT.

Interesting how you ignored the important part of his post to quibble over words. He's actually right. You never changed your mind about alignments, you said that ani is scum, lets lynch his buddies first. Then you say lets lynch ani because he is scum, after we were discussing why even if he is scum or SK, Ani was a bad lynch for D1.

Yes, he was a bad lynch for D1. That hasn't changed. It's D2 now. Not D1. My god you people are dumb.

Surye wrote:And when called out on it, you just rage post back to back, and start ignoring posts. Your agressive atitude in this context looks very bad. The funny thing is, your "mind change" happened contrary to town's best interest.

I ignore idiots. Deal with it.
Why is me changing my opinion on Ani contrary to town's best interests? Does that mean you know he's town? Because it sure as hell sounds like it.

Surye wrote:And of course, you end it with calling someone an idiot.

yep. and?

Désolé, je voulais dire un lynch mauvais pour D2.

lol this guy is ridiculous. Thanks Surye.

^has no response to my arguments

populartajo, 464 wrote:smargaret is scummy due to the waffling on her animorph read. this is scummy regardless of ani's alignment.
i think im fine with empking dying too.

Okay. I couldn't tell for sure just based on the progression of quotes and their context.

Amrun, 463 wrote:xvart, Empking always does that. He may or may not be scum, but the case on him nowhere near rivals that on the cases on ani, smargaret, and twisted spoon.

He always does that? Regardless, reviewing both players in isolation I think Empking is leaps and bounds more scummy than smargaret. For instance (many of which I've already pointed out):

He has a bunch of half baked suspicions, two FoSes on the same player, and zero follow to any of them. On the last quote above, how strongly is your unknown suspicion driven by nobody attacking populartajo and how much is due to him defending other players? Because there are several players that have received no attacks and I can't help but wonder why you haven't interjected a suspicion of them akin to your drop in about populartajo. And, Empking, what happened to your read on Amrun? Whenever I see things I expect scum to do I usually expect them to also be scum, and vote worthy.

- what is your read on Empking?

And reading the last few posts I now remember why I dislike playing with Parama. Speaking of which, can you please explain what you meant by this post:

xvart, 317 wrote:Parama - Did I miss this answer somewhere?

xvart wrote:

Zinger2099 wrote:

Parama wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if the Tragedy kill came from mafia

who knew they'd painted Tragedy as obvtown after D1.

When did this happen?

Yes, what are you talking about Parama?

How was tragedy painted as obvtown on D1?

I will hammer smargaret once another person or two at least acknowledges that they have read the recent Parama crap. And once smargaret claims.

@xvart: already answered it, and I'm sure I did, but here it is again:
Ani's push on Tragedy as a counterwagon to jindori made it more likely that Tragedy was town, and it made Ani obvious scum for pushing the wagon. so they killed her.
except that was more likely the SK kill in light of recent events, which does make it quite likely Ani is SK now that I think about it. Still want him dead ofc ^.^

bobsnox wrote:

AGAIN IS PARAMA THE SK?

Why is no one else commenting on this?

Someone recall this post if I die tonight please.

Where the hell are you drawing this conclusion.

What do you want me to say about your exchange with Parama, bobsnox? That I suspect him? Because I don't.

I always suspect Parama, but that is for a different day.

Oh, and xvart, I'm null on Empking. Null leaning scummy, I suppose. But like I said, there are far better cases and your vote being on Empking right now is not at all helpful to town.

UNVOTE: ani
VOTE: smargaret

:sigh:

... I thought you were supposed to let me claim?

Tomorrow I recommend that town take a nice long look at the wagon on me and specifically how hard Tajo was reaching.

... That was the hammer?

*sigh*

Should have waited for the claim. Want to give it post humously, smarg?