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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:53 am

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I’m replacing Kcdaspot. I will vote later.

1.)
First off, I will confirm that I am a Miller. This is not necessarily all there is to my role, though. On that note: vezokpiraka, please confirm whether you are also claiming to be a Miller.

2.)
Riceballtail, in Post 393 you chastised DeasVail for asking you who the scum were when your vote was on StevieT92 and you had FoS’d scooby. What strikes me, though, is that you failed to mention your FoS on Shadow Dancer.

->
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Why did you not mention your FoS on ShadowDancer?
->
b.)
Please explain why these two (or possibly three) players are scum. Do not use quotes; type out your reasons.
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c.)
Seeing as you have so few posts in the game, why did you chastise DeasVail about “wasting your time” when finding your own posts to answer a question could only take a maximum of a couple minutes?

3.)
kiwieagle, in Post 240 when you were making a case on StevieT92, you mentioned offhand that there was a Kcdaspot post that was “really scummy.” Presumably, you were referring to Post 53. Please explain what is “really scummy” about this post.

4.)
Nobody Special, on Day One your vote remained on StevieT92 (and you even seemed to make a “case” on him in Post 258), but despite not mentioning Ankamius in any of your posts, you immediately voted DeasVail in Post 292 when he replaced in, and then you put CooLDoG at L-1 (who you had also never expressed suspicion of). You did this without ever trying to push your supposed top suspect, StevieT92. Why?

5.)
scooby, when you first made your “scooby list” in Post 157 you did not mention CooLDoG, nor did you clarify where CooLDoG would have been on your list when this absence was pointed out (the best opportunity would have been Post 176). Despite literally not mentioning CooLDoG the entire game day, in your last post you slotted him as “don’t like” and voted him.

Why did you “agree with the CooLDoG hate”? Please explain the “CooLDoG hate” in your own words.

6.)
StrangerCoug, in Post 459 you claimed you did “not know what to think” about Kcdaspot leaving the site. Why, then, did Kcdaspot drop from “town” to “undecided”? Wouldn’t your read on him remain town unless you decided his leaving the site actually cut against him (now me)?

7.)
Nocmen, please explain your StrangerCoug in more detail.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:31 pm

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petroleumjelly wrote:
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StrangerCoug, in Post 459 you claimed you did “not know what to think” about Kcdaspot leaving the site. Why, then, did Kcdaspot drop from “town” to “undecided”? Wouldn’t your read on him remain town unless you decided his leaving the site actually cut against him (now me)?

On the one hand, I don't like the timing of the ragequit. After I found myself in agreement with him and then hammered CooLDoG, he upped and left and his wording made me wonder if it was something I said. On the other hand, ragequitting the entire site is useless as a tell as it is not specific to this game (so I probably needed that whack of common sense—it's not like I planned on going after you anytime soon anyway).

I will defend the wagon against me when I'm given something to defend. Right now, with the possible exception of Nocmen (I want him to answer petroleumjelly's question before I pass judgment), it's laughing stock.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:53 pm

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Vote: Nobody Special


for doing nothing but bandwagonning who other people have said is scum.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:33 pm

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Vote Nobody Special


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kiwieagle wrote:
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unvote


Vote: CoolDog



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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:34 pm

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petroleumjelly wrote:
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Why did you not mention your FoS on ShadowDancer?
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Seeing as you have so few posts in the game, why did you chastise DeasVail about “wasting your time” when finding your own posts to answer a question could only take a maximum of a couple minutes?

a) I don't really know if he's scum or not at this point, just something seems off. I've already explained that it's purely gut and there's no real reason behind it at this time.
b) Steve is scum for wanting to lynch a miller claim and then hiding once the pressure built up. Scooby is doing several of my list of scumtells, and I would also gladly lynch him.
c) If it's so easy, why do I have to do it for someone else?
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:43 pm

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UNVOTE: StrangerCoug

VOTE: Nocmen
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:58 am

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Nocmen wrote:Then, SC seems satisfied with Deus' answer in 449, and hammers CD. Followed by a sudden vote back on Deus as Day 2 starts.

The timing of the votes, as well as the way SC becomes satisfied with DV and then votes back immeidately just doesn't go as town votes to me. I don't know if its bussing a partner or not, but it's definitely a scum vote.


One action is insufficient to get you off my suspect list. You have to have a general town play, which Ankamius and DeasVail do not have.

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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:21 am

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Yes. I'm a miller.
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:03 am

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VC2.1

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(1) Nocmen - DeasVail
(0) Kcdaspot
(3) StrangerCoug - vezokpiraka, Nocmen, Nobody Special
(0) Fishythefish
(0) vezokpiraka
(1) StevieT92 - Riceballtail
(0) scooby
(1) DeasVail - StrangerCoug
(0) Riceballtail
(0) kiwieagle
(2) Nobody Special - StevieT92, kiwieagle
(0) Shadow Dancer

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Not voting: petroleumjelly, Fishythefish, scooby, Shadow Dancer

V/LA: StrangerCoug

Deadline: December 3, 9pm EST


Spoiler: Vote History
Nocmen - StevieT92 > StrangerCoug
petroleumjelly
StrangerCoug - DeasVail
Fishythefish
vezokpiraka - StrangerCoug
StevieT92 - Nobody Special
scooby
DeasVail - StrangerCoug > Nocmen
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kiwieagle - Nobody Special
Nobody Special - StrangerCoug
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:26 pm

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1.)
Riceballtail, please explain
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2.)
StrangerCoug, to build off Nocmen:

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Why did you tell Ankamius that “OMGUS is not going to win you any friends”? I agree with Nocmen that this comment might be an attempt to pass along advice.

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If you were “happy with DeasVail’s answer” at the end of Day One such that you hammered CooLDoG, and yet his “one action” was not enough to stop you from voting him on Day Two, please
reexplain
your reasons for voting DeasVail for me. Do not quote any posts. This may involve repeating yourself, but humor me.

3.)
kiwieagle, please answer my question to you:

PJ, Post 475 wrote:
3.)
kiwieagle, in Post 240 when you were making a case on StevieT92, you mentioned offhand that there was a Kcdaspot post that was “really scummy.” Presumably, you were referring to Post 53. Please explain what is “really scummy” about this post.


4.)
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you
think StrangerCoug told Ankamius (the player you replaced) that OMGUS was not going to “win him any friends.”
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:38 pm

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@petroleum I'm not really sure, but I can speculate for you. Possible SC was trying to find something so he could sustain his suspicion on Anka, reducing Anka's vote to OMGUS, which I don't agree with. I don't really see any town reasons for it, so for scum it might have just been something to say.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:47 pm

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Yep, SC is scum. At the end of yesterday, SC said he was happy with DV's answer to his questions. I didn't at all get the impression he thought DV was “flailing like mad”, but that's what he called him this morning. And then he backtracked on that, saying:
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Nocmen wrote:Then, SC seems satisfied with Deus' answer in 449, and hammers CD. Followed by a sudden vote back on Deus as Day 2 starts.

The timing of the votes, as well as the way SC becomes satisfied with DV and then votes back immeidately just doesn't go as town votes to me. I don't know if its bussing a partner or not, but it's definitely a scum vote.


One action is insufficient to get you off my suspect list. You have to have a general town play, which Ankamius and DeasVail do not have.

This doesn't fit in at all with saying that DV was flailing like mad yesterday. I'm really not liking SC's response here; he tries to fob the wagon off with "I'll respond when there's a case on me", and then goes back to "DV is generally scummy, so it's fine, OK?", rather than answer what people are actually saying.

@SC: when do you think DV was flailing? What has DV (not Anka) done that makes you think that slot is scum?

VOTE: SC

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NS abandons strong reads a lot; he's moved from a strong scumread on Stevie, to pushing for the DV lynch, to voting CD, and now to declaring SC is scum.

@NS: what do you now think of Stevie, and why haven't you mentioned him? Why did you want DV dead? Why did you change to CD? Why is SC scum?

@DV: why Nocmen?

@vezok: why do you think 469 is bussing?
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:03 pm

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DeasVail wrote:UNVOTE: StrangerCoug

VOTE: Nocmen


Why the hell are you voting Nocmen when he just made a VERY GOOD point about SC.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:27 pm

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FoS Stevie

@Fishy, I still get the feeling that he's scum for some reason and I'm not liking how quickly this SC wagon has formed.

I still suspect SC most though.

UNVOTE: Nocmen

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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:22 pm

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Yeah this has been a really quick wagon...I want to see what SC's responses to all these questions are.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:27 pm

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petroleumjelly wrote:
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My scumtells are fairly reliable, and best when not particularly revealed, as they will catch partners too. Scum who know what they are will try to hide them, so I just can't divulge this answer.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:37 pm

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post tomorrow, etc
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:02 pm

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DeasVail wrote:FoS Stevie

@Fishy, I still get the feeling that he's scum for some reason and I'm not liking how quickly this SC wagon has formed.

I still suspect SC most though.

UNVOTE: Nocmen

VOTE: StrangerCoug


Hell, even I'm concerned by how fast this wagon formed too.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:03 pm

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Nocmen wrote:
DeasVail wrote:FoS Stevie

@Fishy, I still get the feeling that he's scum for some reason and I'm not liking how quickly this SC wagon has formed.

I still suspect SC most though.

UNVOTE: Nocmen

VOTE: StrangerCoug


Hell, even I'm concerned by how fast this wagon formed too.


Why use the "even" here? Why would you be less likely to be concerned?
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:58 pm

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scooby wrote:post tomorrow, etc

Why even bother posting such a useless piece of shit post like this?
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:45 pm

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DeasVail wrote:@Fishy, I still get the feeling that he's scum for some reason and I'm not liking how quickly this SC wagon has formed.

Can you expand at all on what that reason is?

What changed between 481 and 489 to make you happy with voting SC again?
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:55 pm

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I'm not really sure. Sometimes I look over his posts and he seems scummy to me, but I'm not really sure what I can point out.

I was always happy with voting SC, although I am a bit concerned now. I thought I'd move my vote for a bit rather than leave it on SC.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:10 am

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Why did you move your vote for a bit, then move it back?

@NS: please respond to my question in 487.

@kiwi: you had strong scumreads on anka and stevie yesterday. Why haven't you mentioned either today? It seems particularly odd that you would vote NS right after Stevie did the same, and not mention your scumread on him at all.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:23 am

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Fishythefish wrote:

Questions for other people:

NS abandons strong reads a lot; he's moved from a strong scumread on Stevie, to pushing for the DV lynch, to voting CD, and now to declaring SC is scum.

@NS: what do you now think of Stevie, and why haven't you mentioned him? Why did you want DV dead? Why did you change to CD? Why is SC scum?


Haven't looked at Stevie lately; will do that later, in tandem with other players.

DV is scummish for voting with no reasoning immediately upon replacing in.

I re-read; CD needed my vote. Simple as that.

SC is almost always scum.
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