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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:35 pm
by Amrun
Korlash wrote:Yes you do know... In order to argue Iceguy as scum you had to say he was dumb since it made no sense for scum to claim in order to mislynch a miller... :\


No, because IceGuy, even if scum, is definitely not the ONLY scum.

That being said, IceGuy is actually very smart and has an extremely good theoretical mind. I know for a fact he is not ACTUALLY dumb. However, any scum - especially uninvested scum, like IceGuy would necessarily be - can make a bad play and be stuck with it.

Also bolstering my IceGuy suspicion is KNOWING that he has a really good mind for theory and gamebreaking and that he STILL thinks his "everyone investigate the same person" thing is a good idea.

I specifically did NOT mention it yesterday because I didn't want to clue scum in to my role - and then, I didn't want to give scum clues as to my target. Let them think I was investigating whatever stupid thing IceGuy wanted. That could only benefit me.

However, today, I can say how dumb that plan is and how sure I am that IceGuy would know it was dumb if he was town and not pushing dumb theories on purpose.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:37 pm
by Rainbowdash
I want to sleep on this.

Amrun being called cop when I am not called a miller gives me twitchy tail all over about something not being right. This is added to by the pregame flavor which isnt just "cop" but has attached stuff.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:39 pm
by Amrun
From everything you've told us, RD, you are NOT a miller. You are some other will with a functionality similar to a miller.

Last night's flip was a simple, common role name, but good job ignoring that.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:39 pm
by Amrun
*some other role

Weird typo...

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:40 pm
by Om of the Nom
@Korlash: IceGuy is scum because gut. I still want to play this game based on gut instead of logic, so I'm sticking with him for now. Also why not? Scum could do anything to look town.


Also I forget what a Voyeur was. Can someone refresh my memory?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:42 pm
by Korlash
For you there Starkyboy:

Town Game(replacement)
Scum Game(newbie)

My two most favordest games from a while ago.

Town Game(newbie)

And one not so favorite. At least I survived a bit longer in this one. Sadly this was back from my ICing streak so... Not sure if newbie games will help you out or not.

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[quote=Omnomnom"]@Korlash: IceGuy is scum because gut. I still want to play this game based on gut instead of logic, so I'm sticking with him for now. Also why not? Scum could do anything to look town.[/quote]

lolololol

Who needs evidence or reason or shit, right. And why even consider logic about why scum would do something stupid, it makes sense if you don't think about it! :\

Funny how both Questionverb and omnomnom's reasons and explanations for iceguy seem so closely identical...

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:42 pm
by Rainbowdash
Amrun wrote:From everything you've told us, RD, you are NOT a miller. You are some other will with a functionality similar to a miller.

Last night's flip was a simple, common role name, but good job ignoring that.


Like I said, I need to sleep on it.

Just feel that im missing something right now and really dont have enough time to throw at this game right now. May tomorrow though.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:45 pm
by Amrun
@IceGuy: A voyeur is a nerfed watcher. Wiki article: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Voyeur

@Korlash: Who is QuestionVerb?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:47 pm
by Korlash
you! =D

Honestly, one of my more creative titles I think. Quite proud of it. My other idea involving a cat in a hat seemed like it had been done before or something...

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:50 pm
by Amrun
Korlash wrote:Funny how both Questionverb and omnomnom's reasons and explanations for iceguy seem so closely identical...


Then you're on crack.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:56 pm
by Amrun
Okay, to clarify: how are they in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER similar?

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:49 pm
by iStark
@Korlash, I had her down as one of the towns but I'm bit confused with this half ass claim.
My gut feel says she is town but her reasons for choosing you over Ice are kind of bothering me. I'll be able to tell more if I can see more into your game play.
Other reason for asking your Games is your ''stunt'' in other game we are in.
I get the feeling that we are getting suckered into scum trap, just can't put the finger on it yet but something is definitely off.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:19 pm
by Voidedmafia
Votecount 2.1:

IceGuy - Amrun, Om of the Nom
Amrun - Korlash

Not voting- Lopsy, BBmolla, iStark, ActionDan, RainbowDash, CSL, IceGuy, luckyjt

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch and to no-lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2012-04-28 17:48:11), or on April 28th, 2012

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:11 am
by iStark
@Mod, Malthusis is dead.


He is the Mafia Ghoooost!

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:10 am
by IceGuy
Amrun wrote:
IceGuy was going to get negative attention no matter what because he's been playing like absolute shit.


I must confess I'm not really invested/content with this game, especially with the rollback.

Saying "Korlash is town" because of the result is naive. Clearing/lynching anybody because of a result is naive in this game, actually.

We've already seen two miller claims, at least one of them is genuine. There's probably a bunch of investigation-fucking roles like framer, miller, godfather, ninja, etc.

Amrun wrote:
Also bolstering my IceGuy suspicion is KNOWING that he has a really good mind for theory and gamebreaking and that he STILL thinks his "everyone investigate the same person" thing is a good idea.


Just because you don't see the reason for it doesn't mean it wasn't a good idea.

If somebody is scum here, it's OmNom. He's been jumping all over wagons yesterday, never missing a chance to rolefish. I'm also sure at least one of DW/RD fakeclaimed miller, but with the flips I'm not confident any more that it's DW.

@Mod: please update OP with current player list and replacements. I've lost track of who replaced whom.

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:31 am
by Om of the Nom
I wasn't rolefishing, I was just trying to get a lynch. I never even asked for a claim.

Also the fact you suddenly accuse me out of nowhere after I vote you is kinda suspicious (though it could be a coincidence).

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:40 am
by IceGuy
Om of the Nom wrote:I wasn't rolefishing, I was just trying to get a lynch. I never even asked for a claim.


Not directly, no.

Also the fact you suddenly accuse me out of nowhere after I vote you is kinda suspicious (though it could be a coincidence).


Now you're backpedaling in the same post you're making outrageous claims?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:47 am
by Om of the Nom
Well, I could argue that because you think I'm scum, you want to lynch me. And because you want to lynch me, it means you want me to claim. Which means you are indirectly rolefishing too.
Isn't is funny how this works?

Also since I'm supposedly scum, why haven't you voted me (or anyone else) yet?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:15 am
by IceGuy
Om of the Nom wrote:Well, I could argue that because you think I'm scum, you want to lynch me. And because you want to lynch me, it means you want me to claim. Which means you are indirectly rolefishing too.
Isn't is funny how this works?


No.

Also since I'm supposedly scum, why haven't you voted me (or anyone else) yet?


Currently no point in doing so. I'm still waiting for everybody to check in.

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:18 am
by Om of the Nom
What is the point in waiting for everyone to check in? I am scum aren't I? Is someone going to convince you otherwise? Or are you just waiting for support for a wagon on me before you decide to vote?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:21 am
by IceGuy
Om of the Nom wrote:What is the point in waiting for everyone to check in? I am scum aren't I? Is someone going to convince you otherwise?


You're probably scum, not 100% confirmed scum.

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:26 am
by Om of the Nom
Well then who else is scum? What is stopping you from voting me?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:51 am
by Luckyjt
Well to be honest Omnom, I dont like your gut reasons either since that seems to be the only thing you go by. I dont like how you keep switching your votes to possible wagons either. So basically your gut tells you to follow wagons since thats what you have been doing.

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 2:52 am
by Om of the Nom
The end of D1 wagon switching wasn't based on my gut reads (well it kinda was when CSL and Amrun were the only two viable wagons). As I've said many times before it was just me trying to get a lynch.

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:06 am
by Voidedmafia
IceGuy wrote:
@Mod: please update OP with current player list and replacements. I've lost track of who replaced whom.

I guess you haven't been looking lately. Read the 3rd post.