TM2012 - Closed Normal(Over!)

[Captain Murasa]

@JasonT: Wow, is that really the best you can do?

Cool, first you say that you said it as scum. But you can't remember the game? How coincidental. Also congrats I say it as either alignment. Calling me scum without putting in the effort to do your research first = scummy.

"I think Haylen is town. GreyICE made some cool posts. But Haylen is answering the questions which is pro-town. However Grey made a good point (notice the buddying too), Haylen really did do some suspicious stuff."

Is this really the only defense you are able to muster after I've asked you 3 times? You should know your scumreads at the click of a finger, not have to make them up. Even if you only had one real scumread you only would have needed to say that one instead of making up more.

Gut feelings are basically just a way to set up future jumps on the wagon (which you did). It's also used when you can't think of a bullshit attack against the player in question.

What shite are you babbling now, you asked me 3 times? what?

Read my posts. In the three times this has come up, that's the only defense you had.

Yes, I said it as scum... ive played mafia for 5 years, I cant be assed, nor do I care to go looking for one post. It is a waste of time that could be spent in this game.

So....you aren't willing to go to the effort of doing research to try and get your scum reads lynched?

What defense am I mustering?

"You asked, I answered."

What makes you think I didn't have any, you asked I posted. I never post full reads until asked for full reads. I cant think of a bullshit attack on you? I think my 'Bullshit' attack on you has actually been pretty substantial....

Your huge waffles gave it away, and the way you mentioned a gut scum read on me seemed to be so you can wagon hop on me later.

No, I'm pretty sure he's trying to mislynch me. I do have a viable wagon at the moment.

Stop using appeal for fear/emotion... oh woe is me... hes leading a mislynch on me.

Yep, trying to make a neutral post look scummy to get me mislynched. Nice one man.

1) the defense I am muttering... YOU ASKED, I ANSWERED WHAT THE FUCK ELSE DO I FUCKITY FUCKING HAVE TO SAY! You asked my scum reads... I GAVE THEM.

My whole fucking argument is they sound forced. It sounded like you made them up to avoid suspicion.

2) Its a waffle eh, nope, simply posting facts. I only post full reads if asked and concentrate on lynching scum day to day.

Those may be facts （In your opinion), but you still waffled greatly over them.

3) OH NOES.. YOU LEADING A MISLYNCH ON TOWN... THAT is a APPEAL TO EMOTION/FEAR
Again you push you're trying to mislynch me... suck it funckin up and give us reasons WHY WE SHOULDN'T lynch you instead of crying mislynch.

You shouldn't lynch me because I'm town and I'm trying to find and lynch the scum instead of trying to lynch the town.

[UberNinja]

I'm interested in hearing why I'm a suspect of DW even though he hasn't mentioned me at all beforehand.

This should be obvious. Your adamant defense of Haylen has awarded you many scumpoints

On the contrary. If Haylen's scum, that makes Capt. Murasa more likely to be

town

.

Regarding Haylen (whether she's scum OR town) I'd expect scum to take a conflicting stance and not either be in favor of, or opposed to, the wagon. Either that or take multiple conflicting stances one after the other (a la Glork) to muddy the waters and dilute the case on Haylen so as to distract from her lynch if she's a scum buddy.

My vote can go on any one of Glrok, MoS, or Haylen. In no particular order.

[Captain Murasa]

So far I am not seeing a case on DeltaWave except that his scum reads coincide with the wagons. If we are wagoning three scummy people, how the fuck does that make a difference as to DW's alignment?

Because having those as his scumreads makes him liable to jump wagons without garnering huge suspicion, which is what scum want.

[UberNinja]

Even you have to realize how ridiculously theoretic that is.

[Captain Murasa]

Oh and Capt, go look for it yourself if its such an important thing to you. 5 years of mafia playing I cant be bothered going through games right now looking for a needle in a haystack. It would be counter productive and time wasted that could be spent in this game.

No, I don't know which games you've been in, and I don't wanna sift through everything. You're just providing excuses to not have to do it. You aren't even being productive in this game anyway.

PEDIT: Hey, it's still possible.

[UberNinja]

Has DeltaWave given reasons for being suspicious of those people?

Yes?... Well then, are the reasons valid?

Yes?... Well then, are the reasons parroted?

No?... Well then, shut the hell up.

[UberNinja]

Sorry, that came off a little too aggressive/rude.

[Captain Murasa]

Haylen - reasons that were made obvious already (Post #38 & #153)

Lol parrot.

Murasa - buddying haylen (Post #448)

Original I guess

Glork - Self-Meta (Post #318) / ATE (Post #429)

So much parrot.

[DeltaWave]

So far I am not seeing a case on DeltaWave except that his scum reads coincide with the wagons. If we are wagoning three scummy people, how the fuck does that make a difference as to DW's alignment?

Because having those as his scumreads makes him liable to jump wagons without garnering huge suspicion, which is what scum want.

LOL. I haven't moved my vote off Haylen. So much for your "jumping wagons" theory.

Haylen - reasons that were made obvious already (Post #38 & #153)

Lol parrot.

Murasa - buddying haylen (Post #448)

Original I guess

Glork - Self-Meta (Post #318) / ATE (Post #429)

So much parrot.

Bullshit on both counts. I was the first person to call Glork out on his self-meta, so I could therefore not be "parroting" anyone. Also, I don't think anyone had the same reasoning for hating Haylen's comment as I did.

[DeltaWave]

For anyone who wants to see how bad of a liar Murasa is, read post #300 (Glork's self-meta) then read up to #318 (my response to it.) You'll see that nobody called him out on it.

[Captain Murasa]

Okay then, so you are the one who called him out on it first and I got my information wrong. But what about the AtE?
Also you did have the same reason as everyone else for Haylen, otherwise you would have specified.

[jasonT1981]

you're one to talk about AtE


Ohhh hes leading a mislynch on me wahhhhhhhhhh

[Captain Murasa]

Because you can totally interpret my emotions through the internet.
Yeah, nice try.

[jasonT1981]

hold on.. .so you can talk about AtE in regards to glock.....in 485

but when I saw you are using ATE you sarcastically say about interpruting emotion through internet

HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN WORK??????

[GreyICE]

I'm interested in hearing why I'm a suspect of DW even though he hasn't mentioned me at all beforehand.

This should be obvious. Your adamant defense of Haylen has awarded you many scumpoints

On the contrary. If Haylen's scum, that makes Capt. Murasa more likely to be

town

.

Regarding Haylen (whether she's scum OR town) I'd expect scum to take a conflicting stance and not either be in favor of, or opposed to, the wagon. Either that or take multiple conflicting stances one after the other (a la Glork) to muddy the waters and dilute the case on Haylen so as to distract from her lynch if she's a scum buddy.

My vote can go on any one of Glrok, MoS, or Haylen. In no particular order.

<3

Slaxx, this guy?

Don't lynch him.

[iamausername]

Rhinox has pointed out that the sequence from 299 to 306, where Captain Murasa spends two hours looking through Glork's past games and reaches this conclusion:

Anyway, about people saying Glork isn't playing to his town meta. I kinda half-agree. He isn't exactly playing to his town meta, but I don't see him playing to his scum meta either. I think he's playing more to his town meta than scum though.

makes Murasa probable town. I'm inclined to agree.

This game is deteriorating quickly. We need a lynch.

Vote: MoS

THAT'S NOT HELPING.

Haylen has utterly failed to give any answer to these extremely pertinent questions:

Haylen was saying that GreyICE was scum, but also trying to convince him that his read was wrong.

Actually, I was trying to convince everyone he was talking bullcrap and thus is town.

So why were you voting him? Why were you saying things like "you're the scummiest person to me right now"? How do you expect anyone to believe this?

in favour of sticking her fingers in her ears and going "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" and hoping that attention will drift elsewhere. I'm dismayed that this tactic seems to be working.

Also:

Now now, in this game we need to use our indoor voice.

There's 4 people in your team. CES thinks I'm scum, you think I'm scum. That's half of your team.

she's done it again.

While voting Glork, she says Glork (and his teammate) "think I'm scum". Not "say I'm scum", but "

think

". Scum who are trying to mislynch you do not

think

you are scum. Haylen, once again, reveals that she doesn't actually think the person she is attacking is scum.

HAYLEN. HAYLEN IS THE LYNCH WE NEED.

[iamausername]

Having said that, I would be interested to know why, in post 435, DeltaWave appears to be arguing

against

a suggestion that leaving MoS out of his list proves that the two are not scum together. Not sure why a town player would have any problem with that line of argument.

[Captain Murasa]

hold on.. .so you can talk about AtE in regards to glock.....in 485

but when I saw you are using ATE you sarcastically say about interpruting emotion through internet

HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN WORK??????

Because I was asking DeltaWave if his AtE reason was parroted?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Just as an FYI, I probably won't be posting much in the next week or so. My grandma just died so I gotta make plans for the funeral and shit. I'm mainly going to focus on the game I'm modding, but I'll try to at least keep reading and post when possible.

[Captain Murasa]

My condolences :(

Though you don't sound that bothered about it

[Mastermind of Sin]

@Captain: It's a tough time, but I don't really see the point in being a downer to all of you because of my personal emotions that don't have anything to do with the game.

Also, LoL @ not even being on Delta's list in #421. xD

Why are you looking for your own name in other people's lists? Trying to see if they think you're scummy or not?

Vote: MoS

If you don't understand why a town player would look to see how other people are reacting to his actions, you really shouldn't be playing this game at all.

[Haylen]

Didn't notice iams questions, perhaps that should have crossed his mind. Also, semantics arguments are so fail. I don't think you're town.

[Captain Murasa]

Seriously guys, Haylen is town and this wagon needs to fucking die.
All the wagons that are being talked about (Haylen, Glork, My wagon) are on town.
DeltaWave is a good wagon, lets lynch him. Jason isn't far behind either.

[DeltaWave]

Having said that, I would be interested to know why, in post 435, DeltaWave appears to be arguing

against

a suggestion that leaving MoS out of his list proves that the two are not scum together. Not sure why a town player would have any problem with that line of argument.

My understanding was that they were calling me scum.

[hasdgfas]

Haylen(3): DeltaWave, iamausername, GreyICE
DeltaWave(3): Glork, jasonT1981, Captain Murasa
Glork(2): Haylen, Porochaz
Uberninja(1): CooLDoG
GreyICE(1): PeregrineV
Mastermind of Sin(1): UberNinja


Not Voting: Mastermind of Sin, Slaxx

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is May 21.