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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:34 pm

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Hmm...before we lynch anyone today, in such we need to get all the information out there, because it all comes down to who we lynch today. Crola you need to finish your claim; who, if anyone, have you blocked so far this game, and when?

I have an idea of who to vote for, but I'll wait until we get all the claims first.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:36 pm

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Assasin wrote: I am hesitant to believe CES and Yosarian's claim because scum could easily claim regnant mother in this game and get away with it as it is a common role, essentially townie, making me believe that they are both scum.
Well, claiming pregnent mother wouldn't be a completly safe lie in this game, because InHim has claimed ultrasound machine and hasn't shared his last night's investigation yet; scum would probably rather claim some non-pregnent mother role just in case InHim investigated them.

Unless InHim is himself, of course.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:44 pm

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Crola has no fetus inside... obviously.

Hmph... I'm stuck. Assasin's claim is very... recent; I'm not sure if South Dakota had made the ruling by the time this game had started.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:23 am

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A quick google search for "South Dakota abortion ruling" does not yield any news predating 23nd of February. I'm not so sure if that's when they passed the ruling or anything, but that IS when it truly became news. So Assasin's claim basically makes no sense at all.

Of course the question is whether he's mafia, not whether he's an SK? I suspect he is mafia, but I'm not as sure about him as I am about Crola.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:30 am

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Well, the state legislator in South Dakota passed the law Febuary 24th, which means they were probably debating it before then...but it seems unlikely that it was already in the news when Baby Jesus designed this game. At this point, my guess is that the mafia are probably Assasin+one out of (Crola and CES). As I said before, though, before we lynch anyone I want to hear from Crola who he is claiming to have blocked so far this game.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:40 am

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I'll repeat it for ya:
pablito night 1, Kelly Chen night 3, and he couldn't block night 2 and 4, that's what he's claiming.

And Yos, what makes you so sure Assasin is mafia? My reasons for thinking he's mafia rather than the SK are based on you being a likelier roleblock target.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:49 am

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(shrug) My best guess was that both mafia were on the CA bandwagon yesterday. If I am right, then the probable scum groups are

CES+Crola
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Because of the way you and Crola have been attacking each other, CES, I'm guessing that the two of you are not scum together. Therefore, my best guess is that the mafia is either Assasin and you, or Assasin and Crola, unless you and Crola have been pulling of some kind of gambit by attacking each other today.

So, like I said, I think that the mafia is most likely Assasin+ (either CES or Crola), and so Assasin is probably the best lynch.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:18 am

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One, Yosarian, you can still be scum too.
Also, Inhim, why would you go for Crola, George Bush wouldn't have a fetus if that is his real role and, even if it wasn't his real role why would his real role have a fetus.
you should have investigated CES or Yosarian because they claimed to have fetus' which would have made them better targets for an investigation to see if there clain was real or not so
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:25 am

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Assasin wrote:One, Yosarian, you can still be scum too.
CES was asking for my reasoning, and I gave it, and of course I know I'm not scum. Duh. Now, if you want to put together an attack against me, feel free to do so; the only one I've seen was Crola's irrational comment that I'm suspicious because no one's supicious of me.
Assasin wrote: Also, Inhim, why would you go for Crola, George Bush wouldn't have a fetus if that is his real role and, even if it wasn't his real role why would his real role have a fetus.
However, this is actually a good question. InHim, why did you look at Crola?
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:30 am

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Yosarian2 wrote: (shrug) My best guess was that both mafia were on the CA bandwagon yesterday.
InHim was on the wagon too, to be exact.

But I do understand where you're coming from. However how do you account for the missing kills, if a mafia roleblocker is not the cause?
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:35 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote: But I do understand where you're coming from. However how do you account for the missing kills, if a mafia roleblocker is not the cause?
I'm not sure. Double kills? Missed night actions? Perhaps the SK is immune to nightkills, causing the mafia to miss one kill? And why were there no kills night 1?

A mafia role-blocker could explain some of the missed actions, I suppose, but not all of them.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:51 am

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We had a doc and we could indeed be dealing with a nightkill immune SK or something, but I don't think that explains everything. A mafia roleblocker would go some way to explaining it and that's why I do think we have one in the form of Crola.

Assasin, you might as well stop pretending and claim truthfully. I think it's pretty clear for everyone here that you're scum.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:00 am

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The question is, though, if Crola was a mafia roleblocker, then I would have expected him to either block the SK (he should know who the SK is if he did block him once, as you suspect) or the claimed cop InHim, and yet neither were apparently blocked last night.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:07 am

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He could be a limited roleblocker, as he claimed. The SK(assuming the SK kills with a coathanger) only killed on nights he claimed he couldn't block.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:51 am

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Assasin wrote:One, Yosarian, you can still be scum too.
Also, Inhim, why would you go for Crola, George Bush wouldn't have a fetus if that is his real role and, even if it wasn't his real role why would his real role have a fetus.
you should have investigated CES or Yosarian because they claimed to have fetus' which would have made them better targets for an investigation to see if there clain was real or not so
FoS InHim

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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:59 pm

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Okay, Assasin's radically absurd claim definitley proves he's scum.
This day won't go anywhere becase if there really are three scum, which seems to be the basic assumption, then no one will outright lynch anyone else. This day will be at a standstill and will remain at such unless we decide that we don't care who we kill.

Seriously, this game has become laughable. CES probably has red-rimmed eyes because he's just been going belistic that no one is taking his word as the truth. Yossarian2 has essentially said nothing of value today, Assasin claimed scum, Inhim has lurked beyond belfief and gave us a completely unhelpful bit of information, and I've just complained that everyone's just as scummy as the next.

Face it, this entire day has been us beating around the bush because no one know's what to say. Here's what we do:

when someone claims scum, we kill them.
vote Assasin


also, @CES: You're argument to lynch me is a bull shit argument. You want to lynch me cuz I calimed roleblocker, but you believe Inhim cu he claimed cop. This is hypocritical. If you're willing to believe one town claim, you have to be open to others as well or against all of them because if Inhim is a GF, then you've mistakenly allied yourself with your murderer, or, you're scumbuddies with him.

Seriously though, we might as well make the most logical desission today and if Assasin really is the only town (highly unlikely after a crap claim like that) then we can all be happy that we've played a good game because if we do lynch town today, the game is most likely over.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:31 am

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Crola wrote: also, @CES: You're argument to lynch me is a bull shit argument. You want to lynch me cuz I calimed roleblocker, but you believe Inhim cu he claimed cop. This is hypocritical. If you're willing to believe one town claim, you have to be open to others as well or against all of them because if Inhim is a GF, then you've mistakenly allied yourself with your murderer, or, you're scumbuddies with him.
Yeah, because towns nearly always have roleblockers. There are of course more reasons: inHim claimed out of his own volition the day before lynch-or-lose. Most importantly, there are missing kills we can't explain, you being a mafia roleblocker would explain some of them.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:10 am

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Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
Crola wrote: also, @CES: You're argument to lynch me is a bull shit argument. You want to lynch me cuz I calimed roleblocker, but you believe Inhim cu he claimed cop. This is hypocritical. If you're willing to believe one town claim, you have to be open to others as well or against all of them because if Inhim is a GF, then you've mistakenly allied yourself with your murderer, or, you're scumbuddies with him.
Yeah, because towns nearly always have roleblockers. There are of course more reasons: inHim claimed out of his own volition the day before lynch-or-lose. Most importantly, there are missing kills we can't explain, you being a mafia roleblocker would explain some of them.
Crola wrote: when someone claims scum, we kill them. vote Assasin
We're looking for mafia, not scum. That said, I do think Assasin could well be mafia.
And have you even considered that I'm the last townie roleblocker?
No, because you're obviously the last townie, CES, because you told us you were.
We also keep assuming that there are three scum. Right now, I'm actually leaning towards the possibility of two scum of two different groups. Otherwise, there's no way for the town to win
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:00 am

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Crola wrote:And have you even considered that I'm the last townie roleblocker?
I've already stated why I believe inHim over you, so yes, I have considered it.
Crola wrote:No, because you're obviously the last townie, CES, because you told us you were.
To come to the same conclusion as I did, you don't need to assume my innocence, but your own. I don't expect you, Yosarian or Assasin to believe I'm innocent, but that doesn't matter.
Crola wrote:We also keep assuming that there are three scum. Right now, I'm actually leaning towards the possibility of two scum of two different groups. Otherwise, there's no way for the town to win
If there are three scum left, we have to nail a mafia member today and the town can still win. Two SKs seems very low to me, they'd both have to have nk immunity at least.[/quote]
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:08 am

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I will probably be voting Assasin - his claim seems bogus. I'm also sad that I didn't have the time to discern that I needed to check one of CES or Yos - I imagine our other scum would be between those two.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:10 am

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Ok, I think we've gotten all the information we're going to today. I think it's pretty well proven that either CES or Crola is mafia (or else the two mafia would have lynched Crola by now). With the way CES has been acting towards Assasin, and with how little sense Assasin's claim makes, I'm leaning towards thinking there's a CES-Assasin scum group.

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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:15 am

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Bah, fine.

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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:16 am

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So Yosarian, did we just lose the game?
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:17 am

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I hope not...
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