Newbie 1419 - GAME OVER

[Shiidaji]

Is ns the type to kill Bert-who-was-townreading him? That's the main thing that gives me pause now after results.

115 and 147-149 both point to TownVerbs, but 245 makes Verbs pretty solidly town in my mind, Gaiden wasn't in the spotlight at all at that point, there was no need to bus at that point since I feel the momentum of the town wasn't going anywhere bad for a Gaiden-Verbs team. ns downplaying it in 248 is bleh though, ungood

[Nachomamma8]

BRIAN

[Nachomamma8]

why do you think that ns is scum shii? i kind of agree that verbs is town.

[Shiidaji]

lappy

Post 279 to 282 still sticks out like a sore thumb in my mind, gives me aggressive scum caught with his hand in the cookie jar vibes.

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Relationally, 178 gives me pause because I can imagine a boisterous type like notscience proclaiming that one of his buddies was on a wagon as scum, it just oozes.
"I'm willing to wager his buddy already is bussing him, but I can't tell who it is thus far because of how fast everyone jumps down his throat."
(4) Verbs - Nachomamma8,

SXTLHGaiden

,

JKM

, Titus

Also, pay attention to 251 where ns defends Gaiden from Verbs's proclamation, wherein Gaiden shouldn't have really been a blip on ns's radar at that point, the interaction was pretty pointless if it was townNS.

there was something else but I need to go dig it up, one sec

[Brian Skies]

Night 1 took sooooooooooo long.

Anyhow, here are my reads copy and pasted from notepad. I will need to readjust them now that Bert is dead.

Shii

- Strong townread. Could have declared intent and hammered Verbs if he was scum. Post #154
shows that he is actively promoting discussion and getting the town more information. Our
thoughts align pretty well. Still don't agree with his early Verbs suspicions, but I tend to agree
with mostly everything else. Everything he does promotes discussions, and nothing he says goes
unwarranted.

Nacho

- Strong townread. Could have flash-wagoned Titus, but adamantly pushed for a Phok lynch. Promotes
discussion, and I can't currently think of a reason she would want to actively bus her partner so
badly (not ruling it out though).

Bert

- Townread. I didn't like the original slot-holder, but JKM's recent actions seem to be pro-town. I
also don't see why he would want to out his partner THE DAY he replaces in. Any suspicion here is
mostly based on JKM (I have suspicions for Bert, but they can mostly be attributed to paranoia and
WIFOM).

notscience

- Townread. Not much of a leading player. Needs a re-read. Post #276 concerns me. Post #304.

Titus

- Townread. My self-proclaimed nemesis still thinks I'm scum. I don't really care because she hasn't
produced anything strong enough to get me mislynched and I think she's town. Aside from some
scummish things, most of her thoughts makes sense from a town persective.

Verbs

- Slight townread. I don't see the link between Verbs and lettersGaiden. His actions seem mostly
townish to me. I DO have my own suspicions, but they are so shrouded in WIFOM (even to me) that
I don't favor them much, if at all.

notscience

- Townread. Not much of a leading player. Needs a re-read. Post #276 concerns me. The paranoia
that saved Verbs gets town points.

Flammus

- Strong scumread. I dislike this slot so much, I lose sleep at night. M-M's actions still don't
make sense to me from a town perspective. Original reads from Flammus on post #221. Convenient that
lettersGaiden gets a townread. Post #225 is a weak attempt to promote his townread on lettersGaiden
and raises HUGE red flags for me. I understand the quickhammer avoidance could have earned "towny"
points, but nothing else. His reads on #229 seem too safe and superficial. I also don't like lurkers.

Flammus was my original vote based on the lynch. So I'm going to vote him until I redo my reads.

VOTE: Flammus

[Brian Skies]

Also, the read on notscience above is a little weird, because I needed a reread that I never did (got tired of reading).

[Nachomamma8]

oh god is titus the investigative role?

[Nachomamma8]

also i would not recommend reading up overnight. i always seem to be the nightkill when i do that >.>

[Brian Skies]

also i would not recommend reading up overnight. i always seem to be the nightkill when i do that >.>

Warning me against wasting effort? How nice of you.

But don't worry, this is the only game I'm in, and I got really bored.

[Shiidaji]

Pertaining to the actual game, I just finished catching up on everything, and here's what I think so far (forgive me if I mix up facts or something like that, it's hard absorbing 271 posts in a short amount of time). Nacho and Shii are my strongest town reads so far, both are actively scumhunting and analyzing information accurately. I'm also getting the feeling that Brian is town, he has a lot of reasoning behind his actions, and his analyses have been better than I would expect for a newbie. I get the vibe that Flammus is town too based off of his posts alone, but that gambit in the beginning by Mail still makes me a little suspicious. I'm not sure exactly what to think of Titus, some actions seem pro-town, some seem anti-town, null on this one. Verbs, null-scum in my opinion, seems suspicious because of the supposed reasoning behind Mail's gambit, but that's not enough to make me too suspicious of him. I'm suspicious of JKMatthews and notscience the most, JKM because of the situation with Mail's replacement and asking for a lynch, and notscience because

of low levels of activity

and not much reasoning behind the vote for Shii.

the post that Bert pointed out, it can be boiled down to

Nacho

Shii

Brian

Flammus

Titus

Verbs

JKM

notscience

Typically, around yellow (null) is a good place to look for where newscum place their partners. In this case though I wouldn't discount the red either, since phok didn't actually even place a vote on either of his scumreads.

The bolded is really really weird and was never addressed.

[Shiidaji]

idk Titus is still this raging red flag of "lynch me!", even by the above post, but yeah, I don't see ns as super-town like my other townreads do and it bugs me.

[Brian Skies]

Green is my favorite color, how nice of you to notice.

[Brian Skies]

And won't you look at that, my biggest scumread falls into the yellow.

[Shiidaji]

Brian, does Flammus's 250 make sense in a Flammus-Gaiden team? Look at it.

[Brian Skies]

Brian, does Flammus's 250 make sense in a Flammus-Gaiden team? Look at it.

It lacks too much substance. I could have said the same thing.

All he does is reiterate what Verbs said. But he didn't say how he felt about it (just that he was gonna do an analysis). So I still think it's possible for the two to be in a team.

What do you think? I feel like you are pointing this out to me for a reason, but I can't see it. Only thing I can see is him avoiding a definitive opinion on his partner if he is indeed scum.

[Brian Skies]

After that, he doesn't do anything beneficial to the town. I don't know if he was hiding or what.

[notscience]

Shii thinking he can read me

lol

10/10

Please keep it up shii

[Shiidaji]

Gaiden, notscience, and Titus, all three of them contested or questioned Verbs's vote to varying degrees in the preceding posts, Flammus!Scum could've simply gone along with the flow, or perhaps not even said anything. That he would rationalize an argument against his buddy, instead of vehemently agreeing or disagreeing with it, doesn't sit with me as him being scum. I don't have a strong argument for Flammus town tbh, but I feel we have better odds attacking elsewhere.

What do you think about Titus in relation with Gaiden now that you have time?

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ns you're cute : ) Reread that post to yourself btw because you're not helping yourself.

[notscience]

I'm not going to get lynched because I'm not scum

Simple as that

Here's a protip for you

If Nacho and Bert BOTH think I'm town I'm town

[Shiidaji]

Why are you so cagey? I'm voting for Titus.

[notscience]

That's nice

You're also lining me up as a lynch suspect for some reason

When there's only one scum left

...

[Brian Skies]

Gaiden, notscience, and Titus, all three of them contested or questioned Verbs's vote to varying degrees in the preceding posts, Flammus!Scum could've simply gone along with the flow, or perhaps not even said anything. That he would rationalize an argument against his buddy, instead of vehemently agreeing or disagreeing with it, doesn't sit with me as him being scum. I don't have a strong argument for Flammus town tbh, but I feel we have better odds attacking elsewhere.

What do you think about Titus in relation with Gaiden now that you have time?

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ns you're cute : ) Reread that post to yourself btw because you're not helping yourself.

I do feel that Titus is a strong candidate for pairing up with lettersGaiden. She was last on the Verbs wagon and last on the Phok wagon (didn't get to hammer because Bert wanted it). I also find her a strong candidate to have killed Bert. And since no one hammered the easy Verbs lynch, I think either lettersGaiden's partner was too scared to do it, or both scum were already on the wagon (another possibility is the partner missing the window of opportunity). Bert flipped town, lettersGaiden's slot flipped scum, and I'm reading town on Nacho. That leaves Titus.

[Brian Skies]

Be nice children.

[Nachomamma8]

WHO THE FUCK IS THE INVESTIGATIVE PR

[notscience]

Nacho I'm a super saiyan

does that count