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In post 470, Kazekirimaru wrote:I really hate it when people excessively add "I see" and "hmm" to the end of posts. It's like you're trying too hard to seem like you're really thinking on it. Trying to make sure town knows your gears are turning, cause scum doesn't need to scumhunt too hard, amirite? Bert, you're giving me weird feels.

I always do that regardless of alignment, so you can choose whether it's genuine or not. I'm very melodramatic if I'm engaged - which isn't often.

If you want to know what my gut feels, it's that TSO is probably a mislynch waiting to happen. Solely gut.

And I'm teetering between Cabd and GM. Cabd is for weird comments throughout the game that ping, his play being lackadaisical similar to Mismatched, as well as Ffery (and to a lesser extent others) making remarks about how Cabd is not very townie at all. GM is for not doing anything townie looking, to be blunt. And for the voting pattern she has projected so far, along with lack of explanations. Where's the fire?

EBWOP: And Cabd's meta is so much WIFOM right now, because it's similar to Mismatched but "would he be blatant enough to do that two games in a row" is a messy WIFOM argument waiting to explode and ruin our fresh perspective on him. Based on his play here, just his play, I'd lynch him. GM, not as much, but I have more expectations for her.

Bah, humbug!

@Ffery: I understand GM took stances, that does make me feel a tad (a teensy weensy bit) better, but not by much if at all.

In post 469, notscience wrote:How- voting Cabd without actively pushing people to vote him

Why- towncred

PEDIT

SEE

This makes no sense.

I want towncred for bussing Cabd, according to you. And my method of doing this is to proclaim myself as the leader of his wagon. (Which you've actually done for cred, you filthy hypocrite.) But I don't actually want Cabd's lynch to go through so despite championing the lynch I'm actively hoping it will fail.

What a load of bullshit.

This is what I wanted to talk to Ffery and everyone else about:

In post 212, Cabd wrote:Fine. You want your 1v1? You're not really going to get it until I think you're scum. So you get a 1v0. Go ahead, make a proper case for me and I'll put in special effort just for you to show you how you're entirely wrong.

In post 267, Cabd wrote:In other news, i'm still town as fuck, so screw you TSO. You won't be able to mislynch me.

It's what I call the "intimidation factor." Why is Cabd resorting to this, and is it alignment-indicative or a tell in any way, shape, or form? Surely, this looks like it's supposed to arouse fear in the other and persuade someone to back down from attacking him?

Why not talk it out, or at least be more reachable for everyone

Tell me what you think, please?

And I'm gonna address right here that my wagon is a load of shit. Who's on it? Scum Cabd, who's pushing my lynch since I'm pushing his. Kazekimaru, who's catch-up contained , whose case on me is "I feel different and my townreads are on your wagon." Then when he finds out his townreads on my wagon he smiles and just stays on it, proving HE DOESN'T NEED A REASON TO PUSH THE WAGON BECAUSE HE HAS NOTHING. He's stuck on it now and he can't get off it. notscience, who's pigheaded case on me is a direct attempt by him to gain all the credit when Cabd flips scum (he's town, just selfish) and goodmorning, who just switched onto the wagon because he thought he might get away with it.

In post 479, Bert wrote:This is what I wanted to talk to Ffery and everyone else about:

In post 212, Cabd wrote:Fine. You want your 1v1? You're not really going to get it until I think you're scum. So you get a 1v0. Go ahead, make a proper case for me and I'll put in special effort just for you to show you how you're entirely wrong.

In post 267, Cabd wrote:In other news, i'm still town as fuck, so screw you TSO. You won't be able to mislynch me.

It's what I call the "intimidation factor." Why is Cabd resorting to this, and is it alignment-indicative or a tell in any way, shape, or form? Surely, this looks like it's supposed to arouse fear in the other and persuade someone to back down from attacking him?

Why not talk it out, or at least be more reachable for everyone

Tell me what you think, please?

It seemed more dismissive than intimidating.

I didn't play Red Wedding, but I watched it at times, and Cabd replaced into that game into a town slot that was the leading bandwagon at the time.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Look at 551 and 561.

I'm trying to think if I've seen him dismissive as scum. Maybe in the Xenologue game. We were Morph-scum in that game and ProHawk was scumreading us pretty emphatically.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p5200305

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5201056

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5217207

In post 464, Kazekirimaru wrote:Anyhow, I re-read 1398 for some insight on TSO. He is a lot more vitriolic in that game than this one. Kinda solidifies my read. Yet the WAGON STILL BOTHERS ME fuck

TSO, it's really interesting that your most vitriolic post of all (quoted below) came shortly after Kaze called you out for not being as vitriolic as you apparently are as scum.

In post 480, T S O wrote:And I'm gonna address right here that my wagon is a load of shit. Who's on it? Scum Cabd, who's pushing my lynch since I'm pushing his. Kazekimaru, who's catch-up contained

not one post showing me to be scum

, whose case on me is "I feel different and my townreads are on your wagon." Then when he finds out his townreads

aren't

on my wagon he smiles and just stays on it, proving HE DOESN'T NEED A REASON TO PUSH THE WAGON BECAUSE HE HAS NOTHING. He's stuck on it now and he can't get off it. notscience, who's pigheaded case on me is a direct attempt by him to gain all the credit when Cabd flips scum (he's town, just selfish) and goodmorning, who just switched onto the wagon because he thought he might get away with it.

as you apparently are as town* typo.

In post 481, fferyllt wrote:It seemed more dismissive than intimidating.

OK. I skimmed the examples you provided in those links. I'm not sure what to think, then. I feel the dismissiveness was more unyielding here compared to those examples which were more or less milder. I don't know what I'm trying to say.

In post 478, T S O wrote:But I don't actually want Cabd's lynch to go through so despite championing the lynch I'm actively hoping it will fail.

Huh? You're hoping it will fail? Do you think Cabd's scum or not, because your vote indicates you think he is...

if not, why are you voting him then

Am I crazy for thinking Cabd-GM as a team? Or GM is WKing Cabd for some reason...

GM's comments regarding Cabd are sorta sparse...



And Cabd's lack of reaching out to Ffery is not a good thing either - he hasn't since they first entered the game together, I think?

In post 360, goodmorning wrote:"In post 330, Bert wrote:
GM has made no impression on me. Need real time interactions to get some feelings going. Talk to meee, who do you think is scum? Re-read done yet?"

Yes it is done, and still T S O and Sakura with low-and-unlikely chance of Cabd.

In post 486, Bert wrote:Or GM is WKing Cabd for some reason...

I didn't mean WKing. Disregard that part of my post. Sorry for the multiple posts. I'm trying to get all my thoughts in with 2 days left till deadline, and I'm in a pickle. Sorry again.

I was trying to illustrate notscience's mindset to the TSO-Cabd scumteam.

As you've seen yourself, it's bull.

My vitriol is a tell of anger, not of alignment.

PEdit: let's lynch Cabd and find out.

And here i thought i was WKing Cabd.

P-Edit: lol ok

P-Editx2: Let's not.

In post 484, Bert wrote:as you apparently are as town* typo.

In post 481, fferyllt wrote:It seemed more dismissive than intimidating.

OK. I skimmed the examples you provided in those links. I'm not sure what to think, then. I feel the dismissiveness was more unyielding here compared to those examples which were more or less milder. I don't know what I'm trying to say.

I'm not sure either. I get the "unyielding' descriptive. I felt like th red wedding examples were much less biting. The Xenologue examples were snarky and maybe discrediting.

Meh.

I don't want to lynch him, I guess. Not based on what he's posted so far.

So Sakura, who WOULD you lynch?

Why am I even asking?

Cool, TSO gets called out for not doing something then starts to do it!

Sorry again for the multiple posts. Kaze's right about the wagon construction of TSO. Cabd and GM on there doesn't look right, even Kaze on there too. That's almost all scumspects.

Pretty Town: <notscience, ffery, Sakura, agi102>

Scumspects in no particular order, by virtue of POE and not being a townread: <TSO, Cabd, Kaze, GM>

Three of the latter group are on the TSO wagon. I actually do see what Kaze was saying about feeling weird about going onto the TSO wagon. Crap. I have that sinking feeling that i'm missing something. :/

notscience, please. let's try to be useful.

as of now, all you've done is tunnel my scumread and try to take credit for it. which is great, but makes you pretty useless all the same.

In post 491, T S O wrote:So Sakura, who WOULD you lynch?

Why am I even asking?

Yea why are you asking if it's obvious who I want lynched.

Bert I'm telling you, it's a TSO/Cabd scumteam.

YOU WANT TO FUCKING GO TSO

BECAUSE ILL LYNCH YOUR SORRY SCUMFUCK ASS BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN BLINK

YOU HAVE DONE JACK SHIT FOR CABD, YOU VOTE HIM

YOU HAD NO REASONINGS

YOU HAD NO STANDINGS

NOTHING.

AND GUESS WHO GOT ALL OF THAT SHIT.

ME.

SO SIT DOWN AND WAIT TO BE LYNCHED SCUMFUCK.

I thought you said it was Cabd-Sakura scumteam before?

In post 495, Sakura Hana wrote:

In post 491, T S O wrote:So Sakura, who WOULD you lynch?

Why am I even asking?

Yea why are you asking if it's obvious who I want lynched.

I was thinking along the lines of with a Cabd-you scumteam, anything not him would be good.#

NS, I'll talk to you tomorrow.

Yeah, Cabd wouldn't mind bussing. That's true. I'm not comfortable with Kaze, but that's OK... no one else is considering Kaze today so no use in concerning myself with that.

Ffery, what do you think of Kaze? You said she made a good point about GM's carelessness probably being more likely to be coming from town. Other than that, I can't find you having commented about that slot in the last couple of days.

I *think* Kaze has looked better in the past couple of hours, but I am still not quite comfortable with him. Thoughts would be nice...