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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:53 am
by VisMaior
It seems we are stuck where we was before.
Teh Claims :
Maz Cologne passive blocker+rolecop
Nai: Ranma rolecop, knowing teucer to be Tofu Ono
teucer: Tofu Ono, doc eith knowledge of killattempts
me: shampoo, townie and ranmafreaker(?)
Anix: Tsubasa Kurenai, watcher saw DMs underpants stolen(?), mike getting blocked and protected, and Nai doing nothing (Nai confirming beeing watched)
GrimClaw: Mousse, vig
MBF: principal kuno, roleblocker
We can think of as confirmed:
Maz, nai, teucer, Anix, mike, and I can myself. Actually, thats too many confirmed innocents for my taste, id think at least 2 scum.
But, ignoring the fact that there is still 1 scum in the above few, by means of elimination, I arrive at GrimClaw.
vote GrimClaw
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:26 am
by Maz Medias
Mike. Why are we ignoring Mike? Hello, second roleblocker, flavorfully scummy character (though that's less than reliable in this game)?
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:47 am
by Grimclaw
VisMaior wrote:We can think of as confirmed:
Maz, nai, teucer, Anix, mike, and I can myself. Actually, thats too many confirmed innocents for my taste, id think at least 2 scum.
But, ignoring the fact that there is still 1 scum in the above few, by means of elimination, I arrive at GrimClaw.
Just the fact that there aren't enough scum left in that way shows that your reasoning is flawed. I'll look at it more thoroughly when I have a bit more time.
Please don't capitalize the c in my nick btw. It looks awful IMHO. -_-'
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:04 am
by teucer
I don't think Mike or Nai are confirmed. Rolecop and roleblocker are both useful abilities for the scum.
I'm leaning toward Mike.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:34 am
by Grimclaw
Vis and I don't have anyone that could confirm us in any way.
AniX's stalker ability has been confirmed by both of his surviving targets. Allignment can still be anything.
Nai's cop ability has almost been confirmed by himself, because he was very confident that he would be able to give us teucer's role. Teucer didn't give him the chance to confirm himself properly though. Besides that being uncountered ranma means something.
Mike's roleblocking ability has been confirmed by Maz, and he has the Akonas lynch going for him.
Teucer's name has been confirmed by Nai, and AniX confirmed that there is a doc. With no other doc claim, that counts as a confirmation too I guess.
Maz's ability has been confirmed by mbf, and more-or-less reconfirmed by Jecht.
Now, for the abilities themselves:
Vis (vanilla) = With only helpimabug being a real vanilla upto now, a second one makes sense.
Maz (cop/block thingy) = I can't see this ability on scum. On the other hand I just can't see this ability existing at all, so that doesn't say much.
AniX (stalker) = Probably town. Would mafia really be able to use a tracking ability properly?
Nai (role cop) = Normally I would lean slightly toward mafia, but ranma being mafia would be fucked up.
Mike (roleblocker) = 50/50. Both allignments have roleblockers. Lloyd makes it less likely for mike to be town though.
teucer (doc) = Town. -_-
Me (vig) = ... Well, I'll leave that up for someone else to decided I guess.
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I'll have to think about this. The only person I'm willing to take as guaranteed townie atm is teucer I guess. I also don't know enough about ranma 1/2 to look much into the flavour side of things.
Oh, and
unvote
for now, I guess.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:12 am
by Nai
As for who is scummiest by role alone, Mike is one of my favorites, just because we already had a roleblocker on the side of town.
Anix is far from confirmed, because he could be on any side, truly. The mafia could target any non-mafia player and learn what they did, potentially learning what their ability could be by the morning death scene, or, perhaps, lack thereof.
A vig is an easy thing to claim for scum, so Grim is still a bit out there.
And Maz? I'm not sure about him. He could be town, but more likely mafia, I think. With the whole block thingy. He'd be a good match for, say, Mike with that.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:37 am
by teucer
Grimclaw wrote:Nai (role cop) = Normally I would lean slightly toward mafia, but ranma being mafia would be fucked up.
I believe the ability, but there's a decent chance of the name being a safeclaim.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:04 pm
by AniX
I don't think the title and main character is going to be a safe claim. That strikes me as very wrong. Thats like having X-Files Mafia with Mulder and Scully being safe claims...
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:52 pm
by Maz Medias
Nai, you're unbelievable. The fact that you continue to cling to me as scum tends to make me think you're our play tomorrow.
That is, after we string up El Principale.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:41 pm
by Nai
Cling to you? You're funny, seriously. You seem scummy to me. That doesn't just change. You are scummier now than you were before. Just like Mike, you've seemed scummy to me for a while, and I've said it several times.
On another note, but to your post: Why does me thinking you are scum make the rest of the town decide that I should be lynched? Do you have some role we don't know about that lets you control the town?
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:44 pm
by Nai
Cling to you? You're funny, seriously. You seem scummy to me. That doesn't just change. You are scummier now than you were before. Just like Mike, you've seemed scummy to me for a while, and I've said it several times.
On another note, but to your post: Why does me thinking you are scum make the rest of the town decide that I should be lynched? Do you have some role we don't know about that lets you control the town?
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:44 pm
by Maz Medias
I wish. Then, we would win. For now, I'm just going to point out every post that we should lynch Mike.
Which we should.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:36 pm
by mikeburnfire
Yeah Nai. Even though I'm not a cop, I pretty much have an "innocent" result on Maz. If you're going to suspect him, suspect me first. Like I said, I don't have a problem with being lynched as you would know that I'm telling the truth and all important pro-town roles will target him to make one mason group.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:27 am
by Maz Medias
Watch how he attaches himself to me through defense and confirmation so that I'll be attacked tomorrow when he comes up as a scummy scumbag.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:16 am
by Grimclaw
That whole interaction is soo fucking wifom... :\ I think I'm ready to lynch mbf now, then try to vig Maz. MBF is practically asking for it, and if Maz's ability works the way they say it does it should stop my kill anyways.
Anyone who would object to this? (Since I think there are still 3 votes on mike?)
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:24 am
by JechtMurray
Vote Count:
*mikeburnfire------ Maz Medias,Nai,
2
*Nai-------------------
*Vismaior-----------mikeburnfire,
1
*Grimclaw----------VisMaior,
1
*AniX-----------------
*Maz Medias------
*teucer---------------
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:00 am
by teucer
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:40 am
by Maz Medias
I'm gonna say again that I have no idea if I actually stop a night action or if Mike's just failed because it was a roleblock on a passive ability. Feel free to try it if you'd like, but only if you think I really need further confirmation after Mike turns up scum.
If he *is* town, please fire away; I'm willing to take the risk of it not blocking for the reward of not letting this backfire in a town loss.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:16 am
by Grimclaw
If he is scum I still will. The wifom was layered so high on the thing going on between you two that thinking about whether it was a ploy between two scum or one townie and one scum (or even two townies), well, I simply can't tell. That last post of yours Maz was just the latest example of it. Plus it sounded like you were scrambling back from your claimed ability because you didn't expect a vig... Atleast now I'll be doing what mike has been asking people to do all day.
But, ofcourse, my kill might just fail even if your ability doesn't stop it. -_-
vote mikeburnfire
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:57 pm
by Maz Medias
I've said that I don't know if I can block all day. Don't misrepresent me.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:19 pm
by Nai
Mike, I've been suspicious of you for a while, and your little stint about Maz made me suspicious of him. Read back, you'll see. All started at the beginning of the day when you told us about his ability.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:27 pm
by VisMaior
vote mikeburnfire
Day, end already!
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:38 am
by Maz Medias
That's lynch.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:39 pm
by VisMaior
Yea, but is it a BG lynch or a GG lynch?
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:24 am
by JechtMurray
Vote count:
*mikeburnfire------ Maz Medias,Nai, teucer,Grimclaw, VisMaior,
5
*Nai-------------------
*Vismaior-----------mikeburnfire,
1
*Grimclaw----------
*AniX-----------------
*Maz Medias------
*teucer---------------
He's
really
dead this time! Twilight until lynch comes up.