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you realise we are in lylo? That means with Oman's vote on Zindie, one has to e mafia, or there would be a quicklynch. However, by adding another vote off those wagons you offer a different possibility for a quicklynch.
you realise we are in lylo? That means with Oman's vote on Zindie, one has to e mafia, or there would be a quicklynch. However, by adding another vote off those wagons you offer a different possibility for a quicklynch.
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And, instead of responding to everything I said, Oman decides to post this! Awesome! Amazing!Oman wrote:You're right sorry
I meant Sir Wario and Shanba as mutually exclusive.
This is very convincing. Especially the reasons.SirWario wrote:Vote: Pulsewidth
Either Zindaras or Shanba is his partner.
Dude, no. This is big LyLo, not small LyLo.Shanba wrote::badvoting:
you realise we are in lylo? That means with Oman's vote on Zindie, one has to e mafia, or there would be a quicklynch. However, by adding another vote off those wagons you offer a different possibility for a quicklynch.
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Finished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
Well a major reason for my vote on Pulse is my first roleblock choice. There was only one kill with SK and scum. I blocked Pulse and only one kill turns up. The most plausible option was that I blocked the scum and IH killed Paradox.
My only qualm with Shanba is the contradiction in our role claims. I highly doubt he would get blocked for two nights in a row. The Disco investigation is a very easily fabricated choice.
Zindaras has had no suspicion on him the entire game and it baffles me how he is still alive. I don't see why scum would leave a clearly innocent veteran alive?
My only qualm with Shanba is the contradiction in our role claims. I highly doubt he would get blocked for two nights in a row. The Disco investigation is a very easily fabricated choice.
Zindaras has had no suspicion on him the entire game and it baffles me how he is still alive. I don't see why scum would leave a clearly innocent veteran alive?
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No, they're not. In small LyLo, what you said was true. If there are 5 players alive and two scum, and town votes town, scum can quicklynch. In big LyLo, it's not true. With 6 players alive and 2 scum, scum can't quicklynch when one townie ends up voting another townie.Shanba wrote:Meh. They're equivalent.
I think the words "clearly innocent" say enough here. Also note the use of Too Townie logic here.SirWario wrote:Zindaras has had no suspicion on him the entire game and it baffles me how he is still alive. I don't see why scum would leave a clearly innocent veteran alive?
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Finished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
...Zindaras wrote:No, they're not. In small LyLo, what you said was true. If there are 5 players alive and two scum, and town votes town, scum can quicklynch. In big LyLo, it's not true. With 6 players alive and 2 scum, scum can't quicklynch when one townie ends up voting another townie.Shanba wrote:Meh. They're equivalent.
we have 6 alive?
Right. /me needs to pay more attention.
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This is unbelievable.
I will be sobbing in fetal position in the corner.
I will be sobbing in fetal position in the corner.
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Finished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]I'm inclined to agree with Oman though. It would make sense. Problem is, I wasn't trusting Oman's predecesors at all. Currently only trusting SirWario and Shanba.[/quote]
You trust them both, even though their claims contradict?
You trust them both, even though their claims contradict?
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Or, you know, you could be lying about your roleblocker status. Even if by some chance you are a roleblocker, I fail to see what makes you so sure that I'm scum as you've offered very little evidence to substantiate your vote. In fact, I notice that you never really went after me until after post 376 in which I FoS'ed both you and KScope. Really, until I see some actual sensible reasons for you voting me, I'm just going to assume your vote is OMGUS, which is really poor voting at this point in the game.SirWario wrote: Well a major reason for my vote on Pulse is my first roleblock choice. There was only one kill with SK and scum. I blocked Pulse and only one kill turns up. The most plausible option was that I blocked the scum and IH killed Paradox.
I don't like KScope's input this late in the game. He's offered very little content the past several days when there is lots of interesting discussion going on.
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Shanba's and SirWario's claims do not contradict, it simply indicates 2 roleblockers. Also, I think lynching players because of their roles instead of behaviour is the right way to go, even though Zindaras not having a teammate would make sense as scum. My vote is most likely going to either Zindaras or pulse.
For the people claiming I have little input: you are correct, I haven't really being paying much attention to this game, let alone mafia in general.
For the people claiming I have little input: you are correct, I haven't really being paying much attention to this game, let alone mafia in general.
pulsewidth wrote:Or, you know, you could be lying about your roleblocker status. Even if by some chance you are a roleblocker, I fail to see what makes you so sure that I'm scum as you've offered very little evidence to substantiate your vote. In fact, I notice that you never really went after me until after post 376 in which I FoS'ed both you and KScope. Really, until I see some actual sensible reasons for you voting me, I'm just going to assume your vote is OMGUS, which is really poor voting at this point in the game.SirWario wrote: Well a major reason for my vote on Pulse is my first roleblock choice. There was only one kill with SK and scum. I blocked Pulse and only one kill turns up. The most plausible option was that I blocked the scum and IH killed Paradox.
I know I'm not lying. I gave my reasons. It has to do with my night one block and only one kill. Its a perfectly plausible case on you.
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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Also, I think lynching players because of their roles instead of behaviour is the right way to go, even though Zindaras not having a teammate would make sense as scum. My vote is most likely going to either Zindaras or pulse.[/quote]
I expected a lot more from someone who has knowledge of the theme.
Explain to me: If every single townie has a teammate, how come the teammates of the dead townies aren't in the game? The game is based on the 07 season, which means we know exactly who is whose teammate.
I expected a lot more from someone who has knowledge of the theme.
Explain to me: If every single townie has a teammate, how come the teammates of the dead townies aren't in the game? The game is based on the 07 season, which means we know exactly who is whose teammate.
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Finished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
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Since you apparently have trouble reading, it's big, bold, and with red underlines for you only!Zindaras wrote:
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Finished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
Okay lets look at it:
Hmm....
Deathcount wrote: SPAG, Jenson Button, townie, super license suspended after Melbourne (D1)in the season partner is Rubens Barrichello, note he didn't claim either way on a teammate
Paradoxombie, Robert Kubica, doctor, involved in fatal accident in Malaysia (N1)I suspect didn't have a teammate due to being a powerrole.
DeathSauce (replaced ojpower), Takuma Sato, townie, super license revoked in Bahrain (D2)Is partnered with Anthony Davidson. I do admit he doesn't have a teammate in game
IH, Lewis Hamilton, Serial Killer, seriously injured in Spain (N2)
discordian algorithm, Kimi Räikkönen, townie, super license taken away in Monaco (D3)Had a teammate
ChaosOmega, Alexander Wurz, townie, brakes failed in Canada (N3)NK no claim
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Reading over, deathsauce's claim was on the most interesting, claiming that DA was scum because she had a teammate. Hmm....
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Pulsewidth claimed to be Nick Heidfeld, Robert Kubica's teammate.Oman wrote:Okay lets look at it:
Deathcount wrote: SPAG, Jenson Button, townie, super license suspended after Melbourne (D1)in the season partner is Rubens Barrichello, note he didn't claim either way on a teammate
Paradoxombie, Robert Kubica, doctor, involved in fatal accident in Malaysia (N1)I suspect didn't have a teammate due to being a powerrole.
DeathSauce (replaced ojpower), Takuma Sato, townie, super license revoked in Bahrain (D2)Is partnered with Anthony Davidson. I do admit he doesn't have a teammate in game
IH, Lewis Hamilton, Serial Killer, seriously injured in Spain (N2)
discordian algorithm, Kimi Räikkönen, townie, super license taken away in Monaco (D3)Had a teammate
ChaosOmega, Alexander Wurz, townie, brakes failed in Canada (N3)NK no claimUnvoteReading over, deathsauce's claim was on the most interesting, claiming that DA was scum because she had a teammate.
Hmm....
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Finished: 159 (120 Town, 33 Mafia, 5 Other, 1 Cult, 4 Cultivated)
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
68 Wins, 71 Losses
Town: 52 Wins, 54 Losses (2 Wins as Cult)
Mafia: 13 Wins, 15 Losses (1 Win as Cult)
Other: 3 Wins, 1 Loss (1 Win as Cult)
Cult: 0 Wins, 1 Loss
Cultivated: 4 Wins, 0 Losses
59 Survived, 31 Lynched, 60 Killed
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Assuming you've told the truth about your role or your blocks (I still haven't ruled out the possibility that you are mafia-aligned roleblocker), then there is one explanation you haven't considered. KScope claimed to be a bulletproof townie. Now, I'm not too sure what that protects him from, but it's possible it protected him from a N1 SK kill. Other than that, the only reasonable explanation that I can see is that you actually blocked IH the first night, and that you are a mafia-aligned roleblocker.SirWario wrote: I know I'm not lying. I gave my reasons. It has to do with my night one block and only one kill. Its a perfectly plausible case on you.
Gotta love votes with no explanation.KScope wrote: With that being said, I think my vote is set to stone for today.
Vote: Pulsewidth
Looking back over the roles, I really don't see how the Mod would give the town so many power roles if there really is only two mafia. I don't think we can honestly expect the town to have a cop, a doc, a bulletproof townie, AND a roleblocker. That's just ridiculously unbalanced. Which leads me to believe that SW, KScope or Shanba are one/both of the remaining scum. Looking at the Shanba/SW roleblock explanations, I'm thinking SW is a roleblocker as he claims, just not on the town's side.
Vote: SirWario
pulsewidth wrote:Assuming you've told the truth about your role or your blocks (I still haven't ruled out the possibility that you are mafia-aligned roleblocker), then there is one explanation you haven't considered. KScope claimed to be a bulletproof townie. Now, I'm not too sure what that protects him from, but it's possible it protected him from a N1 SK kill. Other than that, the only reasonable explanation that I can see is that you actually blocked IH the first night, and that you are a mafia-aligned roleblocker.SirWario wrote: I know I'm not lying. I gave my reasons. It has to do with my night one block and only one kill. Its a perfectly plausible case on you.
Gotta love votes with no explanation.KScope wrote: With that being said, I think my vote is set to stone for today.
Vote: Pulsewidth
Looking back over the roles, I really don't see how the Mod would give the town so many power roles if there really is only two mafia. I don't think we can honestly expect the town to have a cop, a doc, a bulletproof townie, AND a roleblocker. That's just ridiculously unbalanced. Which leads me to believe that SW, KScope or Shanba are one/both of the remaining scum. Looking at the Shanba/SW roleblock explanations, I'm thinking SW is a roleblocker as he claims, just not on the town's side.
Vote: SirWario
That kscope theory is a possibility. As a roleblocker, I don't know why I'd choose the same person two nights in a row. I think they're could also be a mafia role blocker. I blocked shanba night 2 and the mafia blocked him night 3. That would balance out the two person scum with one having a roleblock ability.