Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Untrod Tripod]

It just feels like shallow analysis.
Like, why would you come in and attack someone's readlist for having weak reasoning and then spout off reads that are impersonal to the players making the votes for each Choice? Like, I personally just didn't have a strong opinion on which option was better and thus kept my vote on the one that I thought I liked at the start of the game. Does that really sound like your reasoning for townreading me is applicable anymore?

analysis this early in the game is by definition shallow, and anyone who tells you differently is a fucking charlatan

[GuyInFreezer]

I've felt the hostility even before the "bad list". But I guess it's all moot now.

you'll all manage to soldier on, I'm sure of it

Needless hostility*

[Titus]

UT is scum. He's just posting crap to piss people off. Town UT is observant.

meta is trash.

Generally, yes. Personality no.

[Untrod Tripod]

okay I think we've found some common ground then

I'm going through some work-related shit IRL right now and it's making me really irritable

[hitogoroshi]

VC 16 (Minor Day 1, VC 16)

Bane:

Target player's Sign is revealed.

(4)

Zar

: Tammy, Bulbazak, Titus, GuyInFreezer [L-6]
(3)

Gammagooey:

ActionDan, vezokpiraka, Marquis
(2)

vezokpiraka:

T S O, ChannelDelibird
(1)

Mastin2:

Shadoweh
(1)

Marquis:

Gammagooey
(1)

Bulbazak:

DeasVail
(1)

Untrod Tripod:

Cheetory6
(1)

Titus:

mastin2

(5)

No Bane Vote:

Antihero, Aronis, Espeonage, Untrod Tripod, Zar

With 19 votes in play, it takes 10 to Bane. Deadline is Sunday, April 5th at 9 PM CST.

Minor Day One Deadline

(expired on 2015-04-05 21:00:00)

mastin2 may be V/LA in the near future.

[Gammagooey]

hihi

marquis baneing me I think is a little mediocre but considering that I baned him for literally no reason (not even gut this time, I just wanted to bane someone for something that would look like not-RVS to get people out of that mindset even though it basically still was) I can't reaaally hate on him for it

Thinking UT is scum for being generally aggressive and catty is super dumb because that is just UT as a person

I will actually read things and maaaybe even have opinions tonight
definitely maybe

[hitogoroshi]

Espeonage has been prodded.

[T S O]

That would be great TSO.

Yes, Titus, it would be great.

I genuinely have no idea what this is meant to be and interacting you is beginning to make my head hurt already.

[Tammy]

Hey UT - Oversoul wants me to apply pressure to you because he thinks you seem scummy, but I'm a sucker for people's RL shit bleeding into the game and being irritable, so consider this pressure:



I do prefer the UT who makes me laugh though.

Also I have other things I'm more interested in right now.

But, side note: I just submitted my dissertation, so as soon as I pick my brain up off the floor I'll catch up here!

[Marquis]

All of you people talking about your teammates make me not sure whether I should be jealous or glad I don't have my own over my shoulder! I love my team, but their schedules are too tight for them even begin to get into or understand, which is totally understandable! <3 I think I do wish they were free to help me out with all of these old-ish player metas (namely, Zar?) seeing as they've all been around significantly longer than me!

I have a lot of things to take care of at the moment both offsite and on! And I did notice people talking about me earlier and I do hope you're talking about me being town! I'll see you all later to make sure of that!

[vezokpiraka]

hihi

marquis baneing me I think is a little mediocre but considering that I baned him for literally no reason (not even gut this time, I just wanted to bane someone for something that would look like not-RVS to get people out of that mindset even though it basically still was) I can't reaaally hate on him for it

Thinking UT is scum for being generally aggressive and catty is super dumb because that is just UT as a person

I will actually read things and maaaybe even have opinions tonight
definitely maybe

How can you read this and not immediately want to burn this at the stake? Seriously.

[Shadoweh]

I'm glad that I have GreyICE looking over my shoulder personally, although most of our PT isn't fit to repeat in public!

Bane: Zar

We don't think his recent posts are an improvement. Zar, if you want to get out of being the delivery boy you're going to have to post things of your own people can read. If you're town I would prefer you make it obvious now. I'm actually a little nervous about making a spot shared with three scary town players vulnerable this early.

CeeDeeBee, GreyICE is challenging you on CES saying vezok is hard to read. He says vezok is easycake biscuits to read and wants to know why your team is saying otherwise. I generally agree with this, vezok is pretty straightforward.

[ActionDan]

hihi

marquis baneing me I think is a little mediocre but considering that I baned him for literally no reason (not even gut this time, I just wanted to bane someone for something that would look like not-RVS to get people out of that mindset even though it basically still was) I can't reaaally hate on him for it

Thinking UT is scum for being generally aggressive and catty is super dumb because that is just UT as a person

I will actually read things and maaaybe even have opinions tonight
definitely maybe

How can you read this and not immediately want to burn this at the stake? Seriously.

I do. more now than before!

Oh Shadoweh, be a dear and please remind Greyice of his performance in Hourai's game (years ago). If he wants a policy lynch that should point him in the right direction

[Shadoweh]

I don't think Grey wants to remember that game. :V I'm not sure what you're saying there, Grey and I convinced people we were masons, who's the policy lynch there?

[fferyllt]

because

a. this game is fucking bananas
b. I have a lot of stuff going on in my life
c. it's literally not that important to me, sorry

you can be a dumbass and try to turn that into some kind of scumtell, but unimportant things slip your mind when you're an adult with a job and stuff

Nacho doesn't like you for town so much right now.

[Titus]

That would be great TSO.

Yes, Titus, it would be great.

I genuinely have no idea what this is meant to be and interacting you is beginning to make my head hurt already.

You offered to outline why you originally scumread.

My response...that would be great. I seriously do not get your confusion.

[fferyllt]

Ok, so I don't care whether Zar is baned today or not. Gestalt opinion is that he needs to be lynched at the earliest opportunity.

I think I'm coming around to CDB's idea of baning someone we're concerned about but not concerned enough to lynch with fire forthwith.

[Untrod Tripod]

because

a. this game is fucking bananas
b. I have a lot of stuff going on in my life
c. it's literally not that important to me, sorry

you can be a dumbass and try to turn that into some kind of scumtell, but unimportant things slip your mind when you're an adult with a job and stuff

Nacho doesn't like you for town so much right now.

oh no, anything but that

[fferyllt]

REVISED:

TOWN

Tammy
Deasvail
GiF
Titus
Marquis. -

I don't like the stuff Deas likes. Will ultimately probably defer to GiF

Gestalt townread.
Cheetory6. - Gestalt townread.

MAYBE TOWN

Actiondan. - possibility of scum theater maybe, but otherwise leaning a little town. have a question in to my team about the interaction with UT
T S O - not having a strong read on him is concerning me a little
Gammagooey. - will be soliciting from my team to clarify this read
ChannelDelibird.
Mastin2. - this will be a nacho-read probs. Leaning slight town on my own.
Shadoweh. - want input from my team
UT - moved up ever so slightly
Vezok
Bulbazak.

NOT SO TOWN - lynch asap

Zar.

WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU?

Antihero.
Aronis.
Espeonage.

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Notes:

- Not a seriatim list

- My townreads have been blessed by at least part of my team, and based on the input, I've moved Cheetory6 and Marquis to the towngroup. Marquis is still of concern. his 67 is identical to Fate's entrance to the first team mafia game back at the dawn of time, which pings. But his post 198 has a vague townfeel to it.

deas townread eroded a little on the basis of concerns raised. I am leaving him in town for now. A thing that worries me a little is just the vibe I get from both sides of the deas/marquis interactions. I know that marquis likes to townread the hell out of his teammates sometimes as scum.

[T S O]

Have people like Bulba actually moved up, or are you just trying to make it extremely clear it's Zar you want lynched?

[fferyllt]

bulba and vezok haven't moved up, but there is a clear difference in degree of scumread between them and zar at this point. Zar has moved down.

[Titus]

What's a seratim list?

[T S O]

That would be great TSO.

Yes, Titus, it would be great.

I genuinely have no idea what this is meant to be and interacting you is beginning to make my head hurt already.

You offered to outline why you originally scumread.

My response...that would be great. I seriously do not get your confusion.

A while back, I raised a query - your response was "read my posts in full." I don't feel your posts revealed anything new. I also don't feel the query is that trivial, given that my current belief is that you're lying for no reason, and I take that seriously.

[T S O]

Seriatim - in order.

[Espeonage]

I had not realised the TM games had started. My apologies.