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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:53 am

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Well no, no active ability, that's what the pm said (I can't quote it, right?)
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:02 am

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right ok, you guys can lynch him. He's lying.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:56 am

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no

Unvote, vote: no lynch


This is the proper play. Anyone obstructing this play is scum. Anyone hammering pacone or Phate today is scum.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:01 am

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jdodge TRUST ME. Pacone is LYING.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:28 am

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I am inclined to trust ZA. I am pretty sure ZA is town.

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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:30 am

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I am inclined to trust ZA. I am pretty sure ZA is town. If pacone felt this way he should have come out with it when Phate claimed. I don't like how he waited. Sorry JDodge, but I am not going to do what you say, my vote is MY vote, not yours.

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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:55 am

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did someone accidentally press the post button before they were finished writing their post?
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:59 am

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I meant to press preview, and I am pretty sure I did because it stayed at that page where I could change it. Don't know what happened. Sorry bout the double post though.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:42 pm

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JDodge, I only create an extra night phase if I'm
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:45 pm

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Okay,
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pacone knew that Phate was lying, why should he unvote Phate instead keep insisting his lynch. Although he said, it was temporary, that only showed his doubtness, which is not make sense if he think it was impossible there are two similar role the moment Phate claimed.

But, ZA if you think pacone was lying for the reason that he doesn't have active ability, that's reckless. Although he might be faking his role claim^

JDodge, why a no lynch is good? I can't see the reason why it is good from my point of view.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:03 pm

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Phate wrote:JDodge, I only create an extra night phase if I'm
lynched
. You are aware of this?

Wait a second, was that a hammer?
No, I am not. That makes it a much more convenient excuse for you, though.

I change my mind on no lynch - new theory. Pacone and Phate are scum together and they were given a fake-claim of beloved princess. Phate fakeclaims. Pacone isn't paying attention. Pacone fake-claims same thing.

Who thinks this is likely?
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:30 pm

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JDodge wrote:I change my mind on no lynch - new theory. Pacone and Phate are scum together and they were given a fake-claim of beloved princess. Phate fakeclaims. Pacone isn't paying attention. Pacone fake-claims same thing.

Who thinks this is likely?
I do. But possibly, pacone claiming Phate's role, Phate claiming pacone's role, or simply the beloved princess claims were an absolute lies.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:20 pm

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JDodge wrote:No, I am not. That makes it a much more convenient excuse for you, though.

I change my mind on no lynch - new theory. Pacone and Phate are scum together and they were given a fake-claim of beloved princess. Phate fakeclaims. Pacone isn't paying attention. Pacone fake-claims same thing.

Who thinks this is likely?
I think it may be likely they are both scum and pacone is trying to bus phate. Problem with your theory of not paying attention and claiming is that he said he is voting phate because phate claimed beloved princess, and said he is actually the beloved princess. Doesn't mean its not scum bussing scum though. I say we lynch pacone today.

Also, Phate that was not a hammer, in fact he is at -1 if I am not mistaken. I had a double post in there because I probably hit the submit button too soon or something. He only has 3 votes and you have one.


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- Phate, ZONEACE, competentpsycho
Phate (1)
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:20 pm

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Holy wrote: But, ZA if you think pacone was lying for the reason that he doesn't have active ability, that's reckless.
I don't THINK pacone is lying. I KNOW pacone is lying.

At this point in the game i don't think lying by town players would happen since we are approaching LYLO so i have no reason to beleive pacone is town.

Now im trying to decide is mass claim before night, or mass claim tomorrow is the better plan. Id like some discussion on this before we hammer pacone however. so i'm gonna
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:30 pm

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ZONEACE wrote:Now im trying to decide is mass claim before night, or mass claim tomorrow is the better plan. Id like some discussion on this before we hammer pacone however. so i'm gonna
unvote
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Tomorrow. There may be power roles that are very important for the town that could be useful tonight and with a massclaim would end up killed by the mafia. If we already agree that we are going to lynch pacone today, the only people that mass claiming today helps are mafia, to decide which person to NK. To the town it makes no difference if we are lynching pacone either way (other than the power roles MAY have a slight idea of who to target, but the mafia WILL KNOW who to target).
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:09 am

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Holy wrote:
JDodge wrote:I change my mind on no lynch - new theory. Pacone and Phate are scum together and they were given a fake-claim of beloved princess. Phate fakeclaims. Pacone isn't paying attention. Pacone fake-claims same thing.

Who thinks this is likely?
I do. But possibly, pacone claiming Phate's role, Phate claiming pacone's role, or simply the beloved princess claims were an absolute lies.
I think it's entirely possible. One thing for certain, one of them is absolutely scum. It's like that old Batman episode where The Joker has kidnapped someone by using an ambulance, and when Batman gives chase, he sees two identical ambulances. He refuses to give chase for fear of stopping the wrong one.

Of course, we have to stop one of these players. I don't think pacone wasn't paying attention to Phate's claim--- he says in his claim that Phate is lying because the roles are so similar.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:22 am

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Kuribo, one thing other that is for certain is that pacone is lying in his claim. It's possible they're both lying (i find it unlikely) and that this is some kind of craz gambit but pacone is FOR SURE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:38 am

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One thing i think is worth discussing is the lack of any ACTIVE night kill so far in the game. And i think its a discussion we should have before the day is over.

I don't think the mafia isn't paying attention (missing the deadline) so that only leaves us with the possibility of having really lucky/good RB/Doc. Although i must say i've never seen a game go the first 2 nights without an active kill (nor have i been in a game where there have been 2 active day kills).

However, the presence of a (neutral) psychiatrist means we possibly don't have a doctor (no this is not fishing, so please don't be stupid and accuse me of that and if you are a doctor, don't come forward to prove me wrong.) and that out day killer is likely the psychopath that obviously wasn't cured.


all of this may be obvious, but since i've been away for a while and not been in a game with many of the roles in this one i felt the need to work this through out loud (in a sense)
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:41 am

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EDWOP:

Im obviously stupid, as i brain farted about the bodyguard. so unless there were the possibility of 3 protective roles in the game the prescence of a doctor is pretty much a moot point.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:44 am

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ZONEACE wrote: all of this may be obvious, but since i've been away for a while and not been in a game with many of the roles in this one i felt the need to work this through out loud (in a sense)
Either we have a day-killing serial killer, or the mafia gets its kills during the day.

Or we have a day-killing vig who obviously keeps messing up.

I'm inclined to think it's the first option, just because it makes the most sense.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:47 am

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kuribo wrote:Or we have a day-killing vig who obviously keeps messing up.

If that's what we have then they need to sit on their fingers.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:13 am

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ZONEACE wrote:
kuribo wrote:Or we have a day-killing vig who obviously keeps messing up.

If that's what we have then they need to sit on their fingers.
I would find it hard to believe that any vig would be so stupid as to keep killing townies.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:30 pm

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JDodge, we claimed different rolenames. If he and I were scum and given communal fakeclaims, and I claimed, and he wasn't paying attention and claimed the same thing, we wouldn't have two different rolenames.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:07 pm

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pacone, just to indulge me, what is your role title? By that I am talking how roffman was Impulse Lover, FTIP was Psychiatrist, etc. I doubt it will change anything but I am curious.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:11 pm

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competentpsycho wrote:pacone, just to indulge me, what is your role title? By that I am talking how roffman was Impulse Lover, FTIP was Psychiatrist, etc. I doubt it will change anything but I am curious.

phate, could you answer that question too, but AFTER pacone answers please
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