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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:30 pm
by SlySly
unvote
JDodge wrote:
I really don't care what you have to say.
I can deal with that.
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1. Blame the mod.
JDodge wrote:
This game has not gotten the kick in the ass it needs due to the apathetic and otherwise lacking contribution of the mod
Playing makes the game move, not micro-modding.
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2. Blame everyone else.
JDodge wrote:
this game is not going anywhere thanks to SlySly being a dick ages ago
You put it best when you said "ages ago". The game has moved on since then.
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JDodge wrote:
this game is going nowhere because Alabaska has not contributed one useful thing since he replaced in
Taking that he has posted recently, Alabaska is active now and obviously available for any questions anyone may have for him.
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JDodge wrote:
this game is going nowhere because Lloyd and Andy refuse to contribute anything of use
Jdodge expresses his disgust with Lloyd and Andy for not providing him with ammo to use against them.
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JDodge wrote:
this game is going nowhere thanks to eljcko being a moron
Jdodge, sensing the demise of his scumbuddy, demeans his partner.
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JDodge wrote:
and this has lead to me not caring about the game and thus helping it run itself into the ground.
That is all.
Jdodge sees the obvious losing outcome and blames everyone else, including the mod, in an attempt to justify his own terrible play.
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vote:Jdodge
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:31 pm
by Alabaska J
humph
unvote, vote JDodge
May not need a replacement after all.
SlySly wrote:Jdodge sees the obvious losing outcome and blames everyone else, including the mod, in an attempt to justify his own terrible play.
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:36 pm
by Sarcastro
Vote Count:
2 – Andycyca – (Lloyd, JDodge)
2 – JDodge – (Alabaska J, SlySly)
6 Alive, 4 to Lynch
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:56 pm
by JDodge
Alabaska is doing nothing but follow SlySly around. I will dignify SlySly with a response later, but for now
unvote, vote: alabaska
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:50 pm
by SlySly
Andy?? Lloyd?? eljcko??
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:21 am
by Andycyca
Even though I don't like JD's attitude in this game, I don't think it's reason for lynching him. The whole case against him is pure ad hom.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:29 am
by SlySly
This game is never going to end.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:15 am
by JDodge
SlySly wrote:JDodge wrote:
This game has not gotten the kick in the ass it needs due to the apathetic and otherwise lacking contribution of the mod
Playing makes the game move, not micro-modding.
I don't want micro-modding. I want a mod who prods the people who haven't posted in weeks instead of combing over people's posts for anything that could be a personal slight to him. I want a mod whose own head isn't so far up their own ass that they can see that their own game is fucking dying. I want a mod that doesn't add rules that kill their own game by encouraging people to unacceptable levels of douchebaggery.
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SlySly wrote:JDodge wrote:
this game is not going anywhere thanks to SlySly being a dick ages ago
You put it best when you said "ages ago". The game has moved on since then.
Yet it still affected the collective will to play the game, which is rather hard to recover. Not your fault though, you
were
following the rules. I'll blame the mod on this one too.
SlySly wrote:JDodge wrote:
this game is going nowhere because Alabaska has not contributed one useful thing since he replaced in
Taking that he has posted recently, Alabaska is active now and obviously available for any questions anyone may have for him.
Right, but it's not useful to anyone if you have to dig for the opinion.
SlySly wrote:JDodge wrote:
this game is going nowhere because Lloyd and Andy refuse to contribute anything of use
Jdodge expresses his disgust with Lloyd and Andy for not providing him with ammo to use against them.
Right. Because, y'know, saying they refuse to contribute anything of use is totally not in any way an accusatory statement.
SlySly wrote:JDodge wrote:
this game is going nowhere thanks to eljcko being a moron
Jdodge, sensing the demise of his scumbuddy, demeans his partner.
I am not scum and thus have no scumbuddy. Your statement is false, sir.
SlySly wrote:JDodge wrote:
and this has lead to me not caring about the game and thus helping it run itself into the ground.
That is all.
Jdodge sees the obvious losing outcome and blames everyone else, including the mod, in an attempt to justify his own terrible play.
Justify two kills per night. We have no claimed vig (I am going to assume that no vig would be unclaimed at the moment as we are likely in lylo and shouldn't be building -2 wagons without damn good reason anyways), so yes. I do sense an obvious losing outcome for myself. There is likely an SK and 1-2 mafia, per the no claimed vig issue, which means that the obvious outcome for town is a loss. Tell me, if there are 2 scum left (which you posit), we are in lylo now. Do you really think that as scum, a loss would be "obvious"? Prior to now, nobody had mentioned an SK. Do you think from an SK standpoint, a loss would be "obvious"?
I'd say the town's pretty well screwed anyways.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:58 pm
by Alabaska J
JDodge wrote:Alabaska is doing nothing but follow SlySly around. I will dignify SlySly with a response later, but for now
unvote, vote: alabaska
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Hi! I'm the doctor.
confirm vote: JDodge
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:03 pm
by JDodge
Since when? Am I to take this as a claim for no reason at -3, or as a statement that I have missed something prior?
Because both you and Thanatos have been really quite scummy, and docs tend not to counter-claim because they're more useful hidden.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:40 pm
by Alabaska J
JDodge wrote:Since when? Am I to take this as a claim for no reason at -3, or as a statement that I have missed something prior?
You missed something prior. You really forgot my claim? Suspiiiiiiicious. Thanatos was at L-1 during lylo a couple of pages ago.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:08 pm
by JDodge
Alabaska J wrote:JDodge wrote:Since when? Am I to take this as a claim for no reason at -3, or as a statement that I have missed something prior?
You missed something prior. You really forgot my claim? Suspiiiiiiicious. Thanatos was at L-1 during lylo a couple of pages ago.
Yes. I did forget your claim.
Note that you hopped on me as soon as SlySly hopped onto me, both you and SlySly have the same idea (with no logical basis) that there are 2 scum, doc being an incredibly safe claim at the moment, -1 not always equaling a claim especially when the accused is inactive enough to need replacement, and the fact that the slip Thanatos made was so damn obviously a lame attempt at fishing, and I'd say I'm pretty comfortable voting a claimed doctor.
How are you so sure we're in lylo? How do you know that it's not 2 mafia and an SK? 2 mafia and a vig? All my statements to this effect have been in the theoretical - all yours have been in the factual. Why is this?
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:24 pm
by SlySly
JDodge wrote:
How are you so sure we're in lylo? How do you know that it's not 2 mafia and an SK? 2 mafia and a vig?
I'm just saying lylo is a possibility. I originally thought Ocelot might be a vig but taking the flavor into consideration, I think it makes much more sense that he is an SK.
My vote on you was mainly because from that one post you made I gathered that you no longer wanted to participate and I had it narrowed down to you and el as scum and figured I would try and help the mod out from having to try and find a replacement. Now that you seem to have rejoined us, I will...
unvote
I think eljcko is the better lynch for this day.
vote:eljcko
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:21 pm
by Alabaska J
SlySly wrote:JDodge wrote:
How are you so sure we're in lylo? How do you know that it's not 2 mafia and an SK? 2 mafia and a vig?
I'm just saying lylo is a possibility. I originally thought Ocelot might be a vig but taking the flavor into consideration, I think it makes much more sense that he is an SK.
My vote on you was mainly because from that one post you made I gathered that you no longer wanted to participate and I had it narrowed down to you and el as scum and figured I would try and help the mod out from having to try and find a replacement. Now that you seem to have rejoined us, I will...
unvote
I think eljcko is the better lynch for this day.
vote:eljcko
If you think that Ocelot is an SK why aren't you voting for him? Why eljko? Also, I think JDodge is better but I'm gonna have to reread.
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:35 pm
by SlySly
Alabaska J wrote:
If you think that Ocelot is an SK why aren't you voting for him?
I also think there are 2 scum left and I think it is far more important to lynch 1 of them today.
Alabaska J wrote:
Why eljko?
Read his exchanges with me throughout today.
He demonstrates...
1. Admitted role fishing
2. Vote Opportunism
3. Confusion creation by context twisting
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:37 pm
by Alabaska J
I know but I still like JDodge…however I agree this day needs to end soon so
unvote, vote: eljcko
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:46 pm
by JDodge
I'd like clarification on your eljcko case - it seems a bit illogical to me.
SlySly wrote:He demonstrates...
1. Admitted role fishing
Is it role fishing if he admits it? You're not going to catch that many fish if you stick your head into the water and yell "HEY I'M GOING TO FISH YOU!"
SlySly wrote:2. Vote Opportunism
Understandable and a core part of my Alabaska case.
SlySly wrote:3. Confusion creation by context twisting
Isn't this easier explained as idiocy?
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:51 pm
by JDodge
Alabaska J wrote:I know but I still like JDodge…however I agree this day needs to end soon so
unvote, vote: eljcko
The last thing we need to do right now is rush into a decision. If you truly think there are two scum, you would see that by now.
Unless rushing into a decision benefits you.
SlySly wrote:I also think there are 2 scum left and I think it is far more important to lynch 1 of them today.
Not just far more important, but
absolutely imperative
. Winning with a mislynch today requires the following:
Not lynching Alabaska unless Alabaska = scum (sure enough on that that I'm willing to gamble)
SK/vig and scum targeting the same person
Alabaska targeting the same person as the scum
AAAND MOST IMPORTANTLY
Doc protects protecting against any and all kill attempts.
Alternative scenario is the SK/vig doesn't kill.
Mod:
Would the protection of a doc (if there is one) prevent all kill attempts, or just one?
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:56 pm
by Lloyd
Andycyca wrote:Even though I don't like JD's attitude in this game, I don't think it's reason for lynching him. The whole case against him is pure ad hom.
I disagree. JDodge's attitude is a good enough of a reason for wanting me to lynch him now. At best, his attitude is resulting in discussion. At worse, it's becoming a distraction.
Unvote
Vote: JDodge
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:40 am
by JDodge
Lloyd wrote:Andycyca wrote:Even though I don't like JD's attitude in this game, I don't think it's reason for lynching him. The whole case against him is pure ad hom.
I disagree. JDodge's attitude is a good enough of a reason for wanting me to lynch him now. At best, his attitude is resulting in discussion. At worse, it's becoming a distraction.
Unvote
Vote: JDodge
Wait - did you just say that starting discussion in a dead game is a good reason to lynch someone?
It seems to me that it would be easier for any scum to hide and ride any bandwagon they can jump on under the pretense of moving the game along or some such thing.
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:49 am
by Sarcastro
Vote Count:
2 – eljcko – (SlySly, Alabaska J)
1 – Alabaska J – (JDodge)
1 – JDodge – (Lloyd)
6 Alive, 4 to Lynch
I can't answer that question, JDodge.
Deadline set for 12:00 PM PDT on Saturday, June 14th.
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:06 am
by Andycyca
I actually prefer the el wagon. This game is slowly recovering and a claim wouldn't be bad.
Vote: eljcko
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:19 am
by Alabaska J
Andycyca wrote:I actually prefer the el wagon. This game is slowly recovering and a claim wouldn't be bad.
Vote: eljcko
QFT
Also the vote count is messed up, as JDodge appears to be voting for two players.
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:38 pm
by Lloyd
JDodge wrote:Wait - did you just say that starting discussion in a dead game is a good reason to lynch someone?
No. Your response sounds reasonable, and my vote was to gauge Andycyca's reaction (or lack of).
Anyhow, going back to my original suspect:
Unvote
Vote: Andycyca
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:18 am
by Alabaska J
BUMP!
Also, seeing as we are in LYLO, we really should think about a massclaim.