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In post 472, Ankamius wrote:

In post 470, Kokichi Oma wrote:Ank, answer me. Please dont pull a zito on me

Why? I already outright stated it.

In post 464, Tywin Lannister wrote:If Zito was town, 100% he wouldve been quicklynched already for his anti-town play, but the fact that there's so much pushback says a lot imo. The kind of pushback going on for Zito definitely wasn't there for Evee. Is it that difficult to see why? Does anyone honestly think scum would block a town mislynch, especially when it's on such an anti-town player?

All pushback in his defense has either been unexplained 'feeling' reads (bad and lazy play imo), or just general deflections/diversions like Srceen telling everyone to make a new wagon for no reason at all. The rest haven't even tried to explain why they TR Zito, or at least stopped SRing him. Others just ignore his slot entirely. Ankarius just said they didn't 'feel anything,' but thats obviously not legitimate reasoning, especially when they already admitted to having not read D1 at all. Its straight to lazy play at best, and a common scum copout at worst. I know where I stand with it though. Actually, the only person that even has even tried is ND, and although I think their logic is faulty, its at least an attempt. That speaks a lot more to me than what others have(nt) done.

I'm still where I was at from the start: Zito, Srceen, Ankarius. I'll add in my discomfort with The Worst sheeping everyone in sight.

Srceen isnt getting lynched, and Zito doesn't look to be either.

Only other place ill move is on Ankarius.

In post 476, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 464, Tywin Lannister wrote:If Zito was town, 100% he wouldve been quicklynched already for his anti-town play, but the fact that there's so much pushback says a lot imo. The kind of pushback going on for Zito definitely wasn't there for Evee. Is it that difficult to see why? Does anyone honestly think scum would block a town mislynch, especially when it's on such an anti-town player?

All pushback in his defense has either been unexplained 'feeling' reads (bad and lazy play imo), or just general deflections/diversions like Srceen telling everyone to make a new wagon for no reason at all. The rest haven't even tried to explain why they TR Zito, or at least stopped SRing him. Others just ignore his slot entirely. Ankarius just said they didn't 'feel anything,' but thats obviously not legitimate reasoning, especially when they already admitted to having not read D1 at all. Its straight to lazy play at best, and a common scum copout at worst. I know where I stand with it though. Actually, the only person that even has even tried is ND, and although I think their logic is faulty, its at least an attempt. That speaks a lot more to me than what others have(nt) done.

I'm still where I was at from the start: Zito, Srceen, Ankarius. I'll add in my discomfort with The Worst sheeping everyone in sight.

Srceen isnt getting lynched, and Zito doesn't look to be either.

Only other place ill move is on Ankarius.

I’m down with that. I was just on the verge of switching my vote. Most of her posts are all about how she is “exhausted”, “lacks energy” or isn’t “engaged” for whatever reason. Add to this, all of her votes seem like throwaways and lack any genuine basis. Even her read on Dan - the only one, that doesn’t sound like total bs., seemed to be inserted there to sound like an actual read, rather than questioning me.

In post 475, Kokichi Oma wrote:

In post 472, Ankamius wrote:

In post 470, Kokichi Oma wrote:Ank, answer me. Please dont pull a zito on me

Why? I already outright stated it.

I missed it in your wall posts. Can you quote it for me?

In post 455, Ankamius wrote:

In post 453, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 445, Ankamius wrote:[quote="In post 443,
It's playstyle if anything, I'm not engaged in the game at this point, especially since we are stuck with a stalled wagon on somebody I don't believe is scum and a lot of people aren't doing much outside of that.

What about his “playstyle” and how is saying this any different than your previous post, saying that something was off about his ISO?

I'm saying his approach felt off, in that it doesn't seem like he's trying to approach the game the same way recently that he did in day one.

It's almost like he's floating along and using his activity to hide it today.

In post 461, Wisdom wrote:im guessing he hasnt played with you before

In post 467, Wisdom wrote:zito is the lynch, no worries

In post 479, Ankamius wrote:

In post 475, Kokichi Oma wrote:

In post 472, Ankamius wrote:

In post 470, Kokichi Oma wrote:Ank, answer me. Please dont pull a zito on me

Why? I already outright stated it.

I missed it in your wall posts. Can you quote it for me?

In post 455, Ankamius wrote:

In post 453, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 445, Ankamius wrote:[quote="In post 443,
It's playstyle if anything, I'm not engaged in the game at this point, especially since we are stuck with a stalled wagon on somebody I don't believe is scum and a lot of people aren't doing much outside of that.

What about his “playstyle” and how is saying this any different than your previous post, saying that something was off about his ISO?

I'm saying his approach felt off, in that it doesn't seem like he's trying to approach the game the same way recently that he did in day one.

It's almost like he's floating along and using his activity to hide it today.

In post 483, Kokichi Oma wrote:What??????

You're saying you have nothing wrong with Zito's day 1 to day 2 transition. But, mine is off? Even though I've continued trying to pressure Zito from day 1?

VOTE: ankmius

This is scum.

In post 482, Ankamius wrote:

In post 461, Wisdom wrote:im guessing he hasnt played with you before

In post 467, Wisdom wrote:zito is the lynch, no worries

I've been wondering where you were; do you have any thoughts about the last few pages?

In post 484, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 479, Ankamius wrote:

In post 475, Kokichi Oma wrote:

In post 472, Ankamius wrote:

In post 470, Kokichi Oma wrote:Ank, answer me. Please dont pull a zito on me

Why? I already outright stated it.

I missed it in your wall posts. Can you quote it for me?

In post 455, Ankamius wrote:

In post 453, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 445, Ankamius wrote:[quote="In post 443,
It's playstyle if anything, I'm not engaged in the game at this point, especially since we are stuck with a stalled wagon on somebody I don't believe is scum and a lot of people aren't doing much outside of that.

What about his “playstyle” and how is saying this any different than your previous post, saying that something was off about his ISO?

I'm saying his approach felt off, in that it doesn't seem like he's trying to approach the game the same way recently that he did in day one.

It's almost like he's floating along and using his activity to hide it today.

What are your reads on the rest of the players, other than Brass, Kokichi and Dan? Not including Eddie, because you voted him without one.

In post 485, Ankamius wrote:

In post 483, Kokichi Oma wrote:What??????

You're saying you have nothing wrong with Zito's day 1 to day 2 transition. But, mine is off? Even though I've continued trying to pressure Zito from day 1?

VOTE: ankmius

This is scum.

See, this is what I'm talking about.

Reads changing over night =/= overall approach towards the game changing. You're pushing your critics that already have support for them, but there's no intensity behind any of your posting outside of it. It's like you don't care, despite already making your way into a lot of people's townreads and being a significant force behind the day one lynch.

In post 488, Ankamius wrote:

In post 484, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 479, Ankamius wrote:

In post 475, Kokichi Oma wrote:

In post 472, Ankamius wrote:

In post 470, Kokichi Oma wrote:Ank, answer me. Please dont pull a zito on me

Why? I already outright stated it.

I missed it in your wall posts. Can you quote it for me?

In post 455, Ankamius wrote:

In post 453, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 445, Ankamius wrote:[quote="In post 443,
It's playstyle if anything, I'm not engaged in the game at this point, especially since we are stuck with a stalled wagon on somebody I don't believe is scum and a lot of people aren't doing much outside of that.

What about his “playstyle” and how is saying this any different than your previous post, saying that something was off about his ISO?

I'm saying his approach felt off, in that it doesn't seem like he's trying to approach the game the same way recently that he did in day one.

It's almost like he's floating along and using his activity to hide it today.

What are your reads on the rest of the players, other than Brass, Kokichi and Dan? Not including Eddie, because you voted him without one.

Dan is town. You and Tywin, while both having biased views of the gamestate, are both town.

Eddie is null.
Papa Zito is lightly leaning town, although that's mostly because this wagon on him is lazy.

Wisdom and the worst are both lightly leaning scum; nothing either of them has said so far showed town and they're the back end of the Zito wagon. If there was scum there, this would be a likely spot for them.

The brass read is shelved right now. There was enough blowback from the vote that I really couldn't test his response like I wanted to.

Srceenplay and Sugar Cain, I don't even remember anything either of them have done outside of the Eevee lynch vote.

In post 445, Ankamius wrote:

In post 443, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 441, Ankamius wrote:Well, first of all, you're probably not going to like any of my pushes in any game I'd you don't like vagueness.

Second of all, it's not from any specific post. It's his entire ISO that feels off.

Just read his ISO, again not seeing it. Your reasons for voting for Brass and Eddie didn’t really make any sense to me either. YOUR ISO is pinging me however. Any idea why that may be?

It's playstyle if anything,

I'm not engaged in the game at this point, especially since we are stuck with a stalled wagon on somebody I don't believe is scum and a lot of people aren't doing much outside of that.

In post 491, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:The Worst is one of my stronger town reads. He seems pretty genuine to me.

Why are Ty and me town though? Not that I disagree but what are you basing this on? What about Wisdom and the worst, do you find particularly scummy?

Saying that they haven’t “showed town”, is meaningless,

Why is Eddie “null”?

Why is Zito townleaning?

Like I’ve already said, the only somewhat credible read you’ve given so far is on Dan, because his is the only one that sounds like you’ve put some actual thought into to.

In post 487, Wisdom wrote:i dont approve of the ank votes

In post 489, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 485, Ankamius wrote:

In post 483, Kokichi Oma wrote:What??????

You're saying you have nothing wrong with Zito's day 1 to day 2 transition. But, mine is off? Even though I've continued trying to pressure Zito from day 1?

VOTE: ankmius

This is scum.

See, this is what I'm talking about.

Reads changing over night =/= overall approach towards the game changing. You're pushing your critics that already have support for them, but there's no intensity behind any of your posting outside of it. It's like you don't care, despite already making your way into a lot of people's townreads and being a significant force behind the day one lynch.

What?

You’re the one who has voted for 3 different people without much rhyme or reason.

In post 493, Ankamius wrote:

In post 491, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:The Worst is one of my stronger town reads. He seems pretty genuine to me.

Why are Ty and me town though? Not that I disagree but what are you basing this on? What about Wisdom and the worst, do you find particularly scummy?

Saying that they haven’t “showed town”, is meaningless,

Why is Eddie “null”?

Why is Zito townleaning?

Like I’ve already said, the only somewhat credible read you’ve given so far is on Dan, because his is the only one that sounds like you’ve put some actual thought into to.

Your original case on me was pretty blatantly town, Tywin is town because he's falling into the same trap I see his type of playstyle fall into all the time; it's the type of trap that's easy to read and he's falling squarely on the town end of it.

Eddie's actions just... don't feel like scum or town. He's probably a player I'll have to get reads on indirectly.

Wisdom/the worst/Zito reads are where they are for the reasons I stated; there's a reason I stated alongside them that they aren't strong reads.

In post 487, Wisdom wrote:i dont approve of the ank votes