Open 724 - Pick Your Power X/Y [Endgame]

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

i would be very surprised if janitor were something_smart btw

SIMYK i think you're applying false meta to that slot

Eeh? I will CONFESS that I do not know many people on this site since because I am NEW BUT I read Team Mafia and he played in a very SIMILAR manner where he was HESITANT to make reads (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

From REPUTABLE players whom I know he SEEMS the most likely ^_^

[Mathdino]

The Janitor (5) - Mathdino, Almost50, Iconeum, Beefster, mutantdevle

in that case, going from what i know of something_smart's lynchbait tendencies

(even if it's not S_S i think we can apply similar meta of "how people treat behaviour like that")

if janitor is town, i think there's guaranteed scum on this wagon.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

The Janitor (5) - Mathdino,

.+:｡Almost50｡:+.

, Iconeum, Beefster, mutantdevle

Hmm, it appears that will be a DIFFICULT task to ACCOMPLISH, if ONLY we had some insight that LEAD us to the CORRECT direction (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

[Mathdino]

FWIW i agree that A50 is much more likely scum than not here

but i will always disagree with lynching A50 on D1

if we're both town we'll figure it out (and one of us probably gets NK'd lol)

[the worst]

i have this strange voice in my head saying it's a50.......

[the worst]

hmmm forgot about beefster joining the wagon

[yessiree]

VC 1.6

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch

The Janitor (4) -

Almost50, Iconeum, Beefster, Ircher

Ircher (3) -

SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis, Mathdino, mutantdevle,

Ausuka (2) -

Lovebird, brassherald

Iconeum (1) -

Taly

mutantdevle (1) -

the worst

Not voting

- Lalendra, The Janitor, Ausuka

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2018-05-15 20:00:00)

[Ircher]

UNVOTE:

Mutant, you're voting Ircher. Why won't you read his posts?

Why the plural? I'm only not reading one of them because it's blatantly too long. I started reading it and saw that he was simply quoting every other post and describing it as null. What do I gain from reading that? I CTRL+F ed my own name to see if there was anything I need to address and there wasn't. There's nothing in that post (as far as I'm aware) that addresses my stance.

Honestly, when I look at a post like that I just think about Irchers own view:

I mean, scum do gain from being hard to follow because then they can be more width-washy about their reads.

That is because that only covered the first 200 posts of thread which you really didn't post in.

tl;dr of ircher's reads list: i am going to summarise why 80% of the posts in this game are null and then give a reads list in which 80% of the players are null

I don't think this is a fair representation of my readlist. Yes, I have a good number of players in the null and neutral areas, but unlike most people's reads, I am more conservative about giving super confident reads. Also, if you actually took the time to read the 2nd spoiler about how to read the reads list, you would understand that my neutral reads != my null reads, and that my neutral reads actually do lean toward one side or the other rather than being completely in the middle.

Done. All that stands out is the poor use of the colour yellow.

The readslist looks fine on MafBlack though I admit I am not quite sure how it looks on other themes. Still, you could just quote it and look at it without the color, but again, I understand that takes additional effort that I myself probably wouldn't do tbh.

Ircher are you NORMALLY this self-conscious about HOW people perceive your pushes? It is exacerbatingly excruciatingly exceptionally DIFFICULT for me to see how you are INTERACTING with Mathdino in any other way ┐|￣_￣✿|┌

I would say yes, I'm pretty self-conscious in general both about the way people perceive me and also about my reads and the amount of bias I may have.

holy balls did he actually say that

lynch this please, this slot is either dangerously bad or scum

Yes, I did state that. And, honestly, I'm not sure what the issue with it is?

Honestly I EMPATHIZE with how Math is reacting to Ircher and don't think it's scummy in an IDENTICAL manner A50-hannin/me INTERACTIONS are ._.

Neither of them townread each other and Ircher's reasons are RIDICULOUS at best （￣へ￣）

Did you even read the final reads list? You would've noted that 0% => Null => Completely mixed. That doesn't exactly qualify as a scumread, and you don't need exceptional reasons really to not townread a person.

[Mathdino]

I don't think this is a fair representation of my readlist. Yes, I have a good number of players in the null and neutral areas, but unlike most people's reads, I am more conservative about giving super confident reads. Also, if you actually took the time to read the 2nd spoiler about how to read the reads list, you would understand that my neutral reads != my null reads, and that my neutral reads actually do lean toward one side or the other rather than being completely in the middle.

that's a matter of semantics, and is irrelevant to actions that affect the game

a reads list isn't some hyper complicated way of viewing each individual's probabilities of being scum

it should be either an action bringing the game further to a solution

or a preamble to other actions (like wagoning or defending) that move the game along

your reads list was just as useless. you don't seem to really care about solving or moving the game.

[Almost50]

I feel like one of Ircher and MathDino are probably scum.

Personally, I feel like 3 of the players in this game are definitely scum (but that's just me).

[Mathdino]

^while this is not intentionally a scumteam

in a very literal sense, THIS IS A SCUMCLAIM :O :O :O

[the worst]

loool

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Did you even read the final reads list? You would've noted that 0% => Null => Completely mixed. That doesn't exactly qualify as a scumread, and you don't need exceptional reasons really to not townread a person.

That's NOT what I'm talking about (;¬_ლ)

If you have a PLAYER at 0% in your READLIST then it IS LOGICAL that you interact with them the way you are with Math-sensei ┐(￣ヘ￣)┌

Also OKAY... I will make sure that Ausuka-chan backs you up and then REREAD your posts with that in mind (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

[Almost50]

FWIW i agree that A50 is much more likely scum than not here

but i will always disagree with lynching A50 on D1

if we're both town we'll figure it out (and one of us probably gets NK'd lol)

It will be too late by then, but I've decided not to complain anymore.

Btw, my TR on "the silliest name ever" is no more. In fact, if I was a vig I would have shot that slot as soon as I could.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Btw, my TR on "the silliest name ever" is no more. In fact, if I was a vig I would have shot that slot as soon as I could.

Eh? What has Ahiru-tan done? （＊〇□〇）……！

[Almost50]

i have this strange voice in my head saying it's a50.......

Alright then. Let's ruin this game because I'm playing with a bunch of nutters.

I DID NOT LAND MY PICK

. I went for Neighborizer.

I don't think Scum!Dino would go for that over most any other combination (Vengeful is a powerful tool for scum. RB and/or JK, or maybe RB+Tracker/Role Cop.. etc).

So, someone is a Neighborizer or a Fruit Vendor.

And I was just trying the

bloody infamous A50 gambit

, so

that

is why I'm being iiretated by being overly SR, and especially so by the

MATHDINO

<< i.e. The one person in this game that knows exactly what I'm talking about AND should very well have seen it coming from a mile away.

Are you all happy now?

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Neighborizer OR Fruit Vendor: i sincerely hope no one picked fruit vendor. neighborize talkative hard-to-sorts who won't get NK'd. i used to be a great neighbour but now i just get NK'd so don't neighborize me thanks

[Almost50]

^while this is not intentionally a scumteam

in a very literal sense, THIS IS A SCUMCLAIM :O :O :O

I agree.

VOTE: A50

Let's do this. At least I won't be playing with "the silliest name that ever was" anymore. I had promised myself not to play in games with that person anyway, but I didn't know that was them.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

I'm NOT an alt ヽ(●-`Д´-)ノ

WHY would you even blacklist me I DON'T understand?

[the worst]

do you selfvote as town A50?
otherwise I'm getting slight townA50pings

[Almost50]

Dino can tell you I actually self-hammered on D1 as Town (I think mutant was in that game too? You were on the scum team, mutant. Right?)

[Almost50]

Yup. This game. And mutant was the scum role cop.

[Ircher]

I wanna say town A50 can self-vote, but I don't have any specific games to reference; more of a possible vague connection.
Pedit: Well, A50 linked a game.....

[Almost50]

Dafuq??

This game

[Ircher]

I don't think this is a fair representation of my readlist. Yes, I have a good number of players in the null and neutral areas, but unlike most people's reads, I am more conservative about giving super confident reads. Also, if you actually took the time to read the 2nd spoiler about how to read the reads list, you would understand that my neutral reads != my null reads, and that my neutral reads actually do lean toward one side or the other rather than being completely in the middle.

that's a matter of semantics, and is irrelevant to actions that affect the game

a reads list isn't some hyper complicated way of viewing each individual's probabilities of being scum

it should be either an action bringing the game further to a solution

or a preamble to other actions (like wagoning or defending) that move the game along

your reads list was just as useless. you don't seem to really care about solving or moving the game.

But at this point, you are as biased against me as I am against you. I always do my reads that way (when I'm not doing them in a hurry). It is somewhat complicated, maybe more so than necessary. But that aside, you cannot say that I don't seem to care about solving or moving the game along. Just because I present a different perspective (which, for all I know, may actually be really bad, but that's beyond the point) and/or don't have killer reads does not at all mean I don't care about advancing or moving the game along. And no, I disagree of your interpretation of a readslist; a reads list is just that, presenting your reads. It definitely doesn't need to be a preamble to some other action (though it can be), and it doesn't necessarily have to bring the game closer to a solution (though it would be better if it did). It is a way of articulating one's current perspective of the game.

Did you even read the final reads list? You would've noted that 0% => Null => Completely mixed. That doesn't exactly qualify as a scumread, and you don't need exceptional reasons really to not townread a person.

That's NOT what I'm talking about (;¬_ლ)

If you have a PLAYER at 0% in your READLIST then it IS LOGICAL that you interact with them the way you are with Math-sensei ┐(￣ヘ￣)┌

Also OKAY... I will make sure that Ausuka-chan backs you up and then REREAD your posts with that in mind (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

Do you mean before I made that post? Before then, I was mostly scumreading Math fyi but then I decided to reevaluate by reading again from the beginning.