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Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:05 am
by RadiantCowbells
goodnight

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:11 am
by Reality Check
Good night, RC

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 9:17 am
by WhemeStar
In post 464, joral wrote:And yes, I see you and Taly both claiming creature is matching his normal scum meta. Since I don't have the requisite games with him I'm having to trust you both on that point, combined with my general unease about him. Now I just have to hope my townish read of both of you is correct, and that you're not walking me right off of a cliff. Not gonna count Wheme, because sometimes I think he's driving the bus blindfolded.

I am willing to park the Wheme vote for now, and we can pick it back up D2 if the lack of evidence continues.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature
JESUS CHEIST IS THIS DUDE TOWN OR SCUM

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 10:16 am
by Creature
Does he irritate you?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 10:36 am
by Randomnamechange
10 pages in, joral, princess, TBG and Rc are townreads

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 10:45 am
by TPFKAP
The problem with whats going on right now is that there is no decent coalition to stand behind these accusations and reads. It's too bad that MOST of you can't see what's going on here.

I'm fine with it though. let it simmer. we'll see.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:10 am
by the worst
In post 479, Randomnamechange wrote:10 pages in, joral, princess, TBG and Rc are townreads
my mind went RC = RadiantCowbells and I lol'd

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:12 am
by the worst
In post 463, joral wrote:
In post 460, the worst wrote:He is sadly probs rightttttt... Creature has a pretty solid meta. He is fantastic as town and highly engaged. lurks and totally disengaged as scum.

So if I told you his call on creature has a probability of being right would you have any other concerns here?
Worst, I'm assuming this is directed at my post. My concern isn't so much the target as the method. I want to hear Wheme's reasoning for Creature, or reasoning at all. He's said "Creature is scum", (though to be fair he's said the same about this townie) but again hasn't said why he thinks so. Asking for blind following may be a null tell overall, but doesn't (to me) make the game any better. That's why at the moment the vote from me. Wheme's not high vote count, but it is to put a bit of pressure for an answer.

I haven't played since 2010 so I'm out of touch as far as meta stuff goes, but I have an unquantifiable negative feeling on creature. If the town wants to go that way, I can support it, but I feel too low info to really drive it.
Respect for this Joral--more warning you, the response to that question will be NAI and pretty boring. I'd ask for his other reads first. :shifty:

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:14 am
by the worst
Tbh though I think we should be focusing OFF Creature and trying to heat the game up. Still I'm surprised he's had so little to say about me/ReaChe/Taly and so forth.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:27 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 336, Shoshin wrote:
In post 320, TPFKAP wrote:Look at my correct % in recent games. I'm done trying to convince you people. My record speaks for itself.
I don't think scum would boast about how great their reads usually are.
Why wouldn’t they? I have yet to ISO TPKFAP but I view this post as NAI. I can see reasons for both alignments to do this.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:30 am
by the worst
BTW nd39 tone read on creature is towny

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:33 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 480, TPFKAP wrote:The problem with whats going on right now is that there is no decent coalition to stand behind these accusations and reads. It's too bad that MOST of you can't see what's going on here.

I'm fine with it though. let it simmer. we'll see.

What is it you think is going on here?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:02 pm
by joral
In post 477, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 464, joral wrote:And yes, I see you and Taly both claiming creature is matching his normal scum meta. Since I don't have the requisite games with him I'm having to trust you both on that point, combined with my general unease about him. Now I just have to hope my townish read of both of you is correct, and that you're not walking me right off of a cliff. Not gonna count Wheme, because sometimes I think he's driving the bus blindfolded.

I am willing to park the Wheme vote for now, and we can pick it back up D2 if the lack of evidence continues.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature
JESUS CHEIST IS THIS DUDE TOWN OR SCUM
Problem Wheme?

I have asked you directly for any kind of explanation and you reply with … what? All caps and not even bothering to make sure you have spelling right. Again, PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR REASONING. This is not the first time I've asked, and the utter lack thereof is exactly w. Even though it's based somewhat on what others have said, I've given more than just "Sheep me". Besides, I'm following what you asked for, isn't that enough? :roll:

I think Taly and Worst are town. So why should I not take into account what they have to say?

Creature, the game has started to pick up, and you still haven't been around. Want it to continue? Post something of substance. And no, I don't buy the trust/don't trust thing. Guessing worst is town in your list? Who else do you have misgivings about?

Worst, what is NAI?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:09 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 477, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 464, joral wrote:And yes, I see you and Taly both claiming creature is matching his normal scum meta. Since I don't have the requisite games with him I'm having to trust you both on that point, combined with my general unease about him. Now I just have to hope my townish read of both of you is correct, and that you're not walking me right off of a cliff. Not gonna count Wheme, because sometimes I think he's driving the bus blindfolded.

I am willing to park the Wheme vote for now, and we can pick it back up D2 if the lack of evidence continues.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature
JESUS CHEIST IS THIS DUDE TOWN OR SCUM
It’s a playstyle. I mistakenly scumread Ank for a good part of the last game I played with him.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:19 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 472, Reality Check wrote:Do you have any other slots sorted atm Nancy?
I’m really liking the worst, Vartsun. I’m townleaning TPKAF, you. TBG

Wheme is kind of freaking me out a bit. I don’t understand why Shoshin is scumreading you. I didn’t see anything wrong with your post.

I dislike how aggressively Wheme is pushing lynches.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:28 pm
by the worst
In post 487, joral wrote:Worst, what is NAI?
Nine angry infants
or
Not Alignment Indicative



I'll let u decide what I meant

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:36 pm
by Scioness Sajj
In post 324, Vartsun wrote:I mean, I think Renais' fluffposting is a great excuse to be engaged without doing anything, therefore, being filler and downplaying themselves.

Have you played at least 2 games with Creature?

And you have no opinion of tgkfap?
I mean Renais has posted some content/commentary in-between fluff unprompted even if it's very little. I don't think that downplaying oneself comes from scum mindset necessarily. Don't really want to lynch active people I'm not scumreading D1.

I haven't played with anybody here but worst, I have no clue about Creature's play and what makes it ai.

Tgkfap had one post early that i think was more likely to come from town than scum. I like where her vote is right now, wish she could talk more and demand less.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:40 pm
by Scioness Sajj
In post 328, the worst wrote:
In post 326, Shoshin wrote:
In post 324, Vartsun wrote:...I can't follow your thought process too well with some of these votes.
What don't you follow? I explained the vote on Reality but it's obvious nobody wants to pressure them so I'm voting my other suspect. What's confusing about the vote on Sajj? She posts lots of meaningless commentary and doesn't commit to anything.
bad but maybe towny vote ow
yeah it gave me a pause but is not accurate soooo

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:44 pm
by Scioness Sajj
In post 341, the worst wrote:
In post 337, Shoshin wrote:the worst, why is Sajj town?
there is madness in my method
nsg, is that you? :giggle:

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:46 pm
by Scioness Sajj
In post 334, Creature wrote:Help me strike people out of this list, I'll start:
The Worst

Nancy Drew 39
Scioness Sajj
Vartsun (Varsoon/Taly)
TehBrawlGuy
Reality Check (Ank/Mastina)
Shoshin
NicoRobin
Riku
TPFKAP
Princess of Renais
Creature

WhemeStar
ArcAngel9
Joral
what happened with your reality townread?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:48 pm
by Creature
didn't notice it was Ank/Mastina.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:54 pm
by Scioness Sajj
it tells me nothing becuase i don't know them. please elaborate how that changes things for you

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:57 pm
by Creature
because there's mastina...

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 1:01 pm
by Scioness Sajj
????

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 1:03 pm
by Scioness Sajj
i mean i guess you don't want to answer that for some reason?