NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[brassherald]

Re 184, I'm not going to say I have a great explanation, but dramonic's posts just feel like scum posting. It's pure gut, and no real evidence, yeah, but, like everything feels like he's too calculated, I guess would be the right phrase, to be town.

I also don't think 482 is a town post, but, again, I can't quite put my finger on why.

My dramonic read is purely instinct, and I cannot read his posts and tell my stupid instinct with my brain that it's being stupid.

[Flubbernugget]

The thing that bothers me most about flubbers posting is that their entire catch up is self focused.

It's not. I talked a lot about Gustavo and inferno, who had the majority of the posting at the time.

I have to look at the other two wagons and see how/why they composed, and their similarities with what happened to me, all while trying to keep up with the thread.

[Flubbernugget]

Does anyone believe for a second that any player can be “coasting” less than 24 hours into the start of a game? Or that a Town Flubber would make that the tentpole of why Rask would be scummy.

If it were a suspicion worthy of conviction I would have voted there.

IMO this sidesteps the actual question. I looked through your ISO to see what came out of 180, if anything.
You floated the idea of coasting. Is there something you can share with us that indicates that Rask's activity during that period was somehow out of line with the norm? If not, what's the point of bringing it up at all?

It was really just that he hadn't said much. I used weak language and actions because I knew the reasoning was weak. It's early game, so this should be expected. They're pretty obviously not coasting if you look at their subsequent posts.

I feel like I'm being pressured into trying to defend a scum read on task and that's not going to happen for what should be obvious reasons.

I am also frustrated that this is the only thing my wagon is built off of because it's barely one step above wagoning me for rvs, which we should be well beyond atm.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Inferno

- In regards to 449 I understand your point of view but I have a strong opinion that post count has absolutely nothing to do with content provided. Heck I would argue that I have more readable and parseable content than several of the top 5 posters in this game despite not having a high post count. I don't think it is automatically anti-Town to be a hyper poster as long as you

A. understand that page count can be an anti-Town barrier just as much if not moreso than the wall-posting
B. there is nothing inherently wrong with someone only posting 3 to 5 times in a 24 hour period as long as said posts have readable content.

So when you called out all players under 20 posts as needing to provide content you appeared to be using an arbitrary post count threshold instead of a content threshold. Which I found problematic.

[HitAlt]

Dave+SkyGazer+chick.

Please don't N1 kill me so that I can see you all hang.
VOTE: SkyGazer first?

[HitAlt]

Oh yeah, Dramonic still fits as a fourth.

[brassherald]

Why SkyGazer as a first pick? I feel weird about the one slot I can't remember any of the posts from at this point but I'm not sure it is sufficient for me to support lynching that slot

[the worst]

Fwiw (abandoning my shady sorting methods for one moment) I have skygazer as most obvscum itt

[HitAlt]

Then you are doing something right.
Not that you normally aren't.

[brassherald]

Okay, yeah, Skygazer, dramonic, flubber, and chick seems like a scumteam, after rereading the iso for Skygazer.

By the way, Chick has, to my memory always scumread me and I don't believe I have ever been in a game with her where I rolled scum. I'm disturbed by the fact that she backed down from a read on me by saying she was attributing posts by someone else to me, as if anyone really posts like me. Low priority in my order, though.

Duck, if you drop a vote on Skygazer, I'll join you.

[dramonic]

Re 184, I'm not going to say I have a great explanation, but dramonic's posts just feel like scum posting. It's pure gut, and no real evidence, yeah, but, like everything feels like he's too calculated, I guess would be the right phrase, to be town.

I also don't think 482 is a town post, but, again, I can't quite put my finger on why.

My dramonic read is purely instinct, and I cannot read his posts and tell my stupid instinct with my brain that it's being stupid.

Those tags lead to your own post and the OP, so I'm assumin you screwed up something in there
Also I might come off as calculated because I have to actually think about how I post. My normal posting style is not chill at all. XD

[brassherald]

The second should be 472 the other was intentionally to my own post because xyzzy spoke about that post in his post immediately before mine.

Sorry about my typo

[the worst]

haven't read into the scumteam call-out and may not tonight but can definitely get in on this Sky wagon.

VOTE: SkyGazer

[brassherald]

VOTE: SkyGazer

As promised.

[Inferno390]

I just did another read through on Sky and there is something definitely scummy about her posts. I can get behind this wagon.
But someone else I’ve been stuck on is Elbirn. I keep rereading his ISO and thee is something really odd about his posting. I can’t figure out what though.
VOTE: Skygazer

[Flubbernugget]

The majority of the votes in this game have had words around them but are effectively naked votes

[Chickadee]

Okay, yeah, Skygazer, dramonic, flubber, and chick seems like a scumteam, after rereading the iso for Skygazer.

By the way, Chick has, to my memory always scumread me and I don't believe I have ever been in a game with her where I rolled scum. I'm disturbed by the fact that she backed down from a read on me by saying she was attributing posts by someone else to me, as if anyone really posts like me. Low priority in my order, though.

Duck, if you drop a vote on Skygazer, I'll join you.

I'll explain a bit. I'm a very visual person. Your name is BRASSherald. Davesaz's avi is literally a picture of a Rodin statue, which the majority of, are cast in metal. So in my mind, I was linking the two without going back to look.

[brassherald]

Okay, yeah, Skygazer, dramonic, flubber, and chick seems like a scumteam, after rereading the iso for Skygazer.

By the way, Chick has, to my memory always scumread me and I don't believe I have ever been in a game with her where I rolled scum. I'm disturbed by the fact that she backed down from a read on me by saying she was attributing posts by someone else to me, as if anyone really posts like me. Low priority in my order, though.

Duck, if you drop a vote on Skygazer, I'll join you.

I'll explain a bit. I'm a very visual person. Your name is BRASSherald. Davesaz's avi is literally a picture of a Rodin statue, which the majority of, are cast in metal. So in my mind, I was linking the two without going back to look.

I guess that makes sense.

I'm not down to lynch you today anyway, even if my issue did hold up.

If no one else wants to, I'll hop on tonight and give a quick rundown of the issues with Skygazer.

[Inferno390]

The majority of the votes in this game have had words around them but are effectively naked votes

Well Skygazer has an effectively naked ISO.
Not really sure what else to say about it.

[davesaz]

I also don't think 482 is a town post, but, again, I can't quite put my finger on why.

Time travel?

[davesaz]

I flat out disagree with 472, there are clear "you guys are scumreading me for the wrong reason" tells in Gustavo's posting.
I'm concerned that Skygazer wagon seems too easy. I agree that there isn't any obvious town motivation in that ISO.

[davesaz]

The majority of the votes in this game have had words around them but are effectively naked votes

That's a nice observation but what does it mean to you?

[dramonic]

I see less "caught for the reason" and more "you guys are idiots for scumreading me because I'm town and therefore cannot be scummy"

[dramonic]

*wrong reason

[Inferno390]

See, what really bothers me in hindsight was the fact that Gustavo started acumreading Profii by saying he didn’t like his stances on no lynch, and then came back about 200 posts later and said that Profii’s stance on No Lynch had nothing to do with the read. The fact that when I pointed out there wasn’t even an attempt to defend the point doesn’t help either, but that’s a pretty big discrepancy that I’m having trouble moving past.