[Game Over] Newbie 1900 - Robocalypse

[Lamees]

volxen (L-3)

: Flavor Leaf, Auro

Flavor Leaf (L-3)

: Ariane, volxen

Auro (L-4)

: snowbeast

Lamees (L-4)

: Not_Mafia

Ariane (L-4)

: Performer

lionheart1492, Lamees

@performer I asked him specifically because I wanted to see if his vote on auro was a scum read or a reaction test

[MiniDeathStar]

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1900

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Added a story to the last votecount. <3

[Performer]

off topic:

My scum game is actually pretty crazy.

the last time i remember seeing it was when i replaced into a large normal when i was still relatively new to FM
fun times haha

in all seriousness though, i dont remember your scum game being that...incredible.
unless it's developed in these past 3 years?

[Performer]

volxen (L-3)

: Flavor Leaf, Auro

Flavor Leaf (L-3)

: Ariane, volxen

Auro (L-4)

: snowbeast

Lamees (L-4)

: Not_Mafia

Ariane (L-4)

: YurikoJasmine

lionheart1492, Lamees

@performer I asked him specifically because I wanted to see if his vote on auro was a scum read or a reaction test

what do you think of that slot now, who was IC for you in 2+ games?

[Performer]

@mod: v/la on Nov 24 due to a day trip I already planned earlier in the week

[Performer]

I don’t lose to scumNM 9/10 times.

FL is the goat so scum FL wouldn't slip like that. Giving him the benefit of the doubt here.

VOTE: Lamees

choo choo

This FL attack is a desperate attempt to salvage scum's designated mislynches (Auro and FL)

These are really cringeworthy posts. You guys are just too weird sometimes.

[Not_Mafia]

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[Performer]

Also FL every game somehow manages to break up an L-1 wagon all by himself. If you are scum just pocket FL. He will save your ass.

LOL

FL is an interesting player, though much of his play is against tradition. Speaking of saving asses, out of my townreads, FL should be saved tonight. That's my best recommendation.
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Of my sr, I'm less certain of ariane compared to volx & snow. Anyone who takes a look at snow's ISO can understand why.

VOTE: volxen
It looks very much like volx & FL are opposite alignments.
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this entire nm vs lames fight makes me think TvT, and I'm very confident in this.

[Lamees]

volxen (L-3)

: Flavor Leaf, Auro

Flavor Leaf (L-3)

: Ariane, volxen

Auro (L-4)

: snowbeast

Lamees (L-4)

: Not_Mafia

Ariane (L-4)

: YurikoJasmine

lionheart1492, Lamees

@performer I asked him specifically because I wanted to see if his vote on auro was a scum read or a reaction test

what do you think of that slot now, who was IC for you in 2+ games?

Suspicious of him. Don't have anything specific, just a gut feel he might be scum. But then again I have that feeling about everyone (besides snowbeast). Just going to leave him at null until proven otherwise.

[lionheart1492]

Performer's reads are very safe reads but the way he describes them looks townie enough. He wasn't a lynch candidate today anyway but I would say I lean town on him rn.

Look like lamees and I will be the final votes to hammer volx since we've both announced intent to get a hammer. I don't think we get a ton out of further responses from volx because all he's really done all game. Also if the lynching wagon on volxen is auro, FL, Performer, lamees and myself I think there's a decent chance (>60%) that it's 5 town lynching, based on reads, and that increases my opinion of the lynch. If anyone wants to say something they should do so soon because I vote in 2 hours at the latest.

If volx flips town it's incredibly likely scum is somewhere in this group of 5. If volxen flips scum I think ariane is almost the towniest person in the game because she's the other vote on FL and there's just no way in my mind the scumteam bands together on an impossible D1 lynch down the stretch when a lot of people are already skeptical of them both.

[volxen]

Performer's reads are very safe reads but the way he describes them looks townie enough. He wasn't a lynch candidate today anyway but I would say I lean town on him rn.

Look like lamees and I will be the final votes to hammer volx since we've both announced intent to get a hammer. I don't think we get a ton out of further responses from volx because all he's really done all game. Also if the lynching wagon on volxen is auro, FL, Performer, lamees and myself I think there's a decent chance (>60%) that it's 5 town lynching, based on reads, and that increases my opinion of the lynch. If anyone wants to say something they should do so soon because I vote in 2 hours at the latest.

If volx flips town it's incredibly likely scum is somewhere in this group of 5. If volxen flips scum I think ariane is almost the towniest person in the game because she's the other vote on FL and there's just no way in my mind the scumteam bands together on an impossible D1 lynch down the stretch when a lot of people are already skeptical of them both.

I'm currently at L-2, but since Not_Mafia is known to quickhammer, I am treating this effectively as an intention to hammer. So I have no choice but to make a full roleclaim.

My role is

Town Tracker

[Performer]

UNVOTE:

Whoa.

[Performer]

Need to reread FL, Ariane, Auro ISOs.

volxen (L-3):

Flavor Leaf, Auro

Flavor Leaf (L-3):

Ariane, volxen

Auro (L-4): snowbeast
Lamees (L-4): Not_Mafia
Ariane (L-4): YurikoJasmine
lionheart1492, Lamees

[Performer]

Speaking of saving asses, out of my townreads, FL should be saved tonight. That's my best recommendation.

also I completely retract this recommendation

[lionheart1492]

Lamees' attitude of "nm is scum but if nm is scum then we probably just lose lol" confuses me, (#336 and #449) in both posts she unequivocally states that nm is her top scumread but isn't voting him for no real reason. At best this is defeatist town and at worst this is scum trying to escape the spotlight after the auro wagon fell apart. The thing I give her credit for is that while there was a lot of talk of lynching in the auro wagon she defended snowbeast and didn't push volx. This is clear town intent because it's looking for a good lynch instead of an easy lynch. Wouldn't lynch here.

The last person on the auro wagon is snowbeast so let me read him real quick and see if I'm willing to vote that. I will say right now that there's no way we consider the "3 mafia" comment a legitimate townslip because it's so easily coachable.

I'd rather lynch on the auro wagon than off of it but if we lynch off the wagon I think it's between performer and ariane. Probably ariane because performer is giving some good vibes (with prep time and very little pressure on him so it's not a solid read). Will give my priority between snowbeast and ariane asap.

[lionheart1492]

Also would like some reactions from people regarding this lynching duo. Do you think there are other realistic lynches besides snowbeast and ariane? If so, who and how? If not, which do you prefer out of those two? If you're on and you have your vote on anyone else at this point you're just not helping town. Let's get this lynch.

[Ariane]

sorry I've been away, been sick

gdi I didn't think Volx was scum

for me it's between FL and performer

could maybe see snow/lam, but less so than the upper two

the rest of you are cool. Though I don't think I'm gonna get my FL lynch today, but I'll recommend looking at him tomoz

[Ariane]

I’m wanting to lynch within Volxen and Ariana.

Ariana’s talking of Volxen directly made it so she wants Volxen vs FL to continue, and chose Volxenms side despite Volxen having rather weak yet fluffy filled posts.

don't quite follow this—this wasn't an attempt to make sure it continued, I just legit got a towny feeling from volx

[Ariane]

For me I'm not disliking Lam's posts atm.

@performer, given you said "It looks very much like volx & FL are opposite alignments" (482), will you be voting FL today then?

Oh, and lion is in the top category there as well, altho I think I'm finding Auro townier than lion, the latter seems to have faded a bit. Still a tr tho

[Performer]

for me it's between FL and performer

why?

[Ariane]

You'll all note earlier that the FL wagon did *not* take off—sure it went up to L-2 but it took a while

That was me, Auro, and NM later on, and I at least townread all of us (tho more uncertain on the latter)

Given FL said that scum don't hesitate to vote him (still unsure why this was a thing?), and that it was a bit of a slow build in comparison to eg. Auro, sure, one of us could be scum, but more likely FL is

That seems to explain the wagon much more to me

@FL any response to all the stuff I said on you? Others gave reasons to not swing this way, but I'd like to hear from you, particularly questions I directed to you

dunno hope I'm not tunnelling too hard, but

PEdit: FL I don't like, as evidenced before and above

tbh, my scumread on you/Yuri was sparked by Yuri's post where she voted me directly after my case of FL (139), without referencing that case at all, but for a different reason. That struck me as weird, cos if she'd either expanded, or done it as a comment on my case being bad, that would've been fine, but without relation to either of those I was thinking it could've been new scum defending her partner

Actually I should probably look at associatives between FL and you, given my read was started on it. The thing of yrs I quoted above makes me think that it's less likely... sorry, my reads are not as solid/well-thought through as I'd like this game

[Ariane]

could also see FL and snow, if that's the case I imagine we'll see him push strongly for a you/me lynch

I'm uncomfortable with the way my choosing between non-town reads (because, save FL, they're more that than scum reads) is heavily based on associatives atm. Trying to fix that as I'm reading and posting rn

[Performer]

tbh, my scumread on you/Yuri

You never even stated a stance on my slot in your ISO. Looked to me like you were trying to pocket yuriko.

[Performer]

could also see FL and snow, if that's the case I imagine we'll see him push strongly for a you/me lynch

I didn't see this at all , how do you associate a snow & FL team?

Snow's ISO - I don't buy that it's coming from newbie town. If anything, it reminds me of rockeater turning out to be scum in the game where Not_mafia was a town jailkeeper and I was also town.

[Performer]

could also see FL and snow, if that's the case I imagine we'll see him push strongly for a you/me lynch

I didn't see this at all , how do you associate a snow & FL team?

Snow's ISO - I don't buy that it's coming from newbie town. If anything, it reminds me of rockeater turning out to be scum in the game where Not_mafia was a town jailkeeper and I was also town.

Like I actually agree that snow is scummy but you're going another level up by associating him with FL? Without elaborating?