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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:05 pm
by TTTT
all I've deduced from this is that if single is scum then pers is his partner

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:10 pm
by Alisae
On one hand, RC would never design something like that with an ungated JK unless maybe they had a 1-shot Strongman.
On the other hand, the way you claimed it makes no sense from a wolf's pov

pedit: it's been awhile but I'm decently familiar with RC's mod meta

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:25 pm
by Micc
Votecount 3.02
singletonking (1) -
Alisae

Not Voting (5) -
GuiltyLion, singletonking, Persivul, Aristophanes, TTTT

With 6 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2019-01-17 21:05:00).

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:52 am
by Persivul
In post 447, singletonking wrote:Alright. I'm Bulletproof, and I believe I was shot last Night. I have a modifier but I'd like to conceal it unless you want me to claim it.
Makes sense - you're the towniest person in the game. Did you play it that way
because
you're BP, or is that just a fortunate draw?

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:53 am
by Persivul
In post 451, Aristophanes wrote:....

I mean, I can do that I guess?
That is an odd request though I get that it is to glean my motivations
Why act puzzled about it when you then acknowledge that you understand the purpose?

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:58 am
by Persivul
In post 460, GuiltyLion wrote: ah well this sucks. was really hoping we had an investigative

I jailed Persivul last night and was figuring he was lock scum for that but now anything is possible.

N1 I jailed Jumble-now-Aristophanes
Why lock scum? Why can't you see me as the
target
of a NK?

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:01 am
by Persivul
In post 461, Alisae wrote:VOTE: single
I think this is a 1v1 I'm willing to do, I'll spend more time on it later but EoD yesterday made me feel very uneasy about it, and I kinda don't buy the BP claim.
Single's the towniest person in the game. When the towniest person in the game hasn't been NK'd by D3, I start to wonder why. But, a pre-emptive BP claim to counter that? Seems pretty unlikely. You need a strong case to make this push, and I seriously doubt that you have it.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:06 am
by Persivul
In post 475, TTTT wrote:all I've deduced from this is that if single is scum then pers is his partner
Interesting - how did you come up with that?

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:13 am
by TTTT
I was thinking that GL JK'd you so figured if single wasn't the target then GL stopped the kill
but yeah wasn't thinking you could have been the target so nvm

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:50 am
by singletonking
Current reads:

Town
Alisae
TTTT, Persivul
Aristophanes
Scum

I still think Ari is scum and I surprisingly think Alisae is town here. Among TTTT and Persivul, I think TTTT is more likely to be town but I'm not sure of this.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:08 am
by singletonking
I'll explain my reads:

I really townread Alisae because I feel like her (his?) paranoia into scumreading me is genuine, and I don't see her doing that as scum given how everyone else is locktowning me and it was also her stance from yesterday.

Ari is scum for putting no thoughts into who is scum. Like "I don't really have a read on Pers" - really? While they've said that they want Alisae lynched I don't see any efforts into scumhunting.

Reads on Pers/TTTT I'll not say for now because not confident but I also want to see if how their play rolls out is in line with my thoughts on them.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:53 am
by Alisae
Single at some point I’m still going to put my concerns in thread.

I think its best if I start off completely from scratch and work up to having townreads.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:06 am
by singletonking
First paragraph - what are you trying to say?

And yes, I am resetting my reads as well. And I've already concluded you're probably town.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:09 am
by Alisae
That I probably think ur town but I wanna get this stuff off my shoulders to feel confident in atleast something (since for the most part, I’m resetting)
I should probably drop the vote so I’ll do that.
UNVOTE:

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:20 am
by TTTT
VOTE: Ari

I haven't said much today bc I wanted to see where everyone landed on Ari

jumble looked like scum day1
Ari looked like scum day2
Ari looks like scum day3
my TRs are SRing Ari

GL was my other strong SR but he was really town at EoD and I'm treating his claim as truth
Alisae or Pers are the most likely partners
neither has said they SR Ari today and it is obvious that jumble/Ari is scum if you re-read the game

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:21 am
by TTTT
Alisae and Pers can you give a breakdown on your Ari reads plz?

I'll be offline for the next 12 hours or so

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:42 am
by Persivul
Ari's my scummiest read, but I want to do a meta look at him and consider possible partners before voting. Won't have time to do that until tomorrow at the earliest.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:49 am
by Persivul
Ari/TTTT

We should eventually consider the NL option.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:56 am
by Aristophanes
I was thinking of NL actually

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:19 am
by Alisae
VOTE: Persivul
Okay yeah its TTTT and Persivul its just obvious at this point

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:22 am
by Alisae
Ari is the de facto lynch for today.
We don’t need to no lynch to see that.

I’m honestly okay with getting endgamed by single I don’t think I’m going to fight that anymore.
And GL is just town.

It just leaves those TTTT and Persivul.

I think I can case it as well. 1 second.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:39 am
by Alisae
In post 233, Persivul wrote:The NM kill is really weird (as has already been mentioned). He barely played and had no scum reads. Seems either someone thought the was laying low (even by his standards) because he's a PR, or newbies intimidated by his join date.
@Single
- one of my factors for coming out the gate today with my read on you today was because of this. I feel like Scum would be the type to talk about the kill to try to push some agenda or something. I'm probably not finding the words for it atm, but maybe you get what I'm saying? Either way persivul also does that here and I completely forgot about it.

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In post 234, Persivul wrote:Surprised that ceejay didn't get pushed for the low activity. But, and look townie. Particularly 107 - that hammer didn't ring scummy to me. I've done the same as town. It's made out to be a big scum tell, but lynches based on quickhammers usually flip green..
TR on a buddy, funny though, can actually be percieved as TMIish if you think about it.

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In post 236, Persivul wrote:
In post 96, Micc wrote:
Votecount 1.03
Suka (5) -
pirate mollie, NotAJumbleOfNumbers, GuiltyLion, Not_Mafia, InfiniteSoda
GuiltyLion (2) -
ceejayvinoya, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (1) -
singletonking
singletonking (1) -
Suka

Not Voting (0) -


With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

ceejayvinoya is V/LA until Jan 1st.
It's likely there's a scum on this lynch. The intersection between the lynch wagon and the bad push on soda/alisae is Jumble.

VOTE: Jumble

Also suspicious of Gamma for the push on soda followed by the weird push on mollie's VLA request. That's two pushes today on technicalities rather than really engaging with people and trying to sort them.
No real care or preference between 2 townies.

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In post 268, TTTT wrote:but it's all good
with three wagons at L-2 we get to see how people now move votes
and their reasons
In post 318, TTTT wrote:@GL - plz come talk with me soon
like give us your updated views on Gamma & Ari slots
bc I'm pretty sure we are lynching there today
and I don't wanna do that w/o your input
you're like my third SR but everyone else loves you
no offense you seem cool
No real preference between the major wagons because all of them are on town

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In post 302, TTTT wrote:@Pers- there's like 40 hours until deadline can you plz vote?
In post 314, Persivul wrote:
In post 302, TTTT wrote:@Pers- there's like 40 hours until deadline can you plz vote?
There's plenty of time. I have an FOS on the Jumble slot, but I need to see where Ari's reads end up before I decide whether to move that.
In post 329, TTTT wrote:VOTE: Ari

I'll be back before EOD to hammer
but I'd like Pers to take a stand
like I asked before
In post 333, Persivul wrote:
In post 331, TTTT wrote:you haven't voted
There was no need to, as there was already L-1 and intent on someone in my lynch pool.

At least that was the case before you flip-flopped your vote for no reason.

I'll be available until 4pm Eastern.

But if you insist on a vote before then...

VOTE: TTTT

Why did you change your vote?
lol lets distance it'll look town.

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In post 335, Persivul wrote:
In post 334, Alisae wrote:
In post 326, Gamma Emerald wrote:Claim VT
Don’t lynch Ari after this though
Pers thoughts on this
Those are my top two scum reads. But, they're 1 and 2 on your wagon. That would be unusual for scum, so I'm doubtful they're both scum. If Gamma's lynched and flips red, I'll be less suspicious of Ari. If Gamma flips green, then Ari isn't looking good.

I was really hoping Ari would come in with some more content. He basically posted some banter, put a scum read on you which I disagree with, and disappeared. He was on site for some time last night but didn't post in this game.
Foundation to try to lynch town today.

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In post 376, TTTT wrote:Gamma really doesn't look as bad as Ari but also doesn't wanna fight at the end here
jumble was scummy and Ari's done nothng since replacing
GL's iso sucks and nobody wants to kill him.
Pers slot looked good all game but still hasn't voted a SR
you called me weird earlier today so we can't be BFFs anymore but you can still be town
singleton is captain town R.I.P.
read on Pers is kinda distancy
also yeah I can buy single being shot if both slots are regarding that as the most towniest slot in the game.

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In post 378, TTTT wrote:
In post 377, Alisae wrote:Why the GL dislike?
it feels like he pulled that townie "I have a perfect scumtell on jumble" play early on day1
and then didn't have to do anything since
and then day2 was the same it was that one good townie looking post saying let's not turbolynch infinitesoda for the hammer
and then not much else all day2

i have notes but not the time to make it all nice with post links
lol I hate this

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In post 397, Persivul wrote:
In post 351, Aristophanes wrote: I think I saw a hammer ya?
In post 380, GuiltyLion wrote:oh we lycnhed Gamma? good
I don't think so. By my count it's currently GL, Single, and Ali on him.

VOTE: Gamma

p-edit: @TTTT - nope, drops now.
The reason I FoS'ed Persivul coming into today is I really dislike how forceful the tone is on this hammer, it kinda felt like a wolf trying to shut off discussion.

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In post 439, Persivul wrote:
In post 406, Alisae wrote:thats a pog.

Though I have a reason to scumread everyone in the game fuck I hate this.
I hate that you came out of the gate with this. Sounds like scum keeping their options open so they can vote any wagon that arises.
lol

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In post 459, TTTT wrote:
In post 408, Aristophanes wrote:Oh, no scumflips so this is mylo...shit!

I told you guys Gamma was town! Thanks for listening.
help me out here.... does Ari post this as scum?
T H I S
I S
A
W O L F

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In post 489, TTTT wrote:VOTE: Ari

I haven't said much today bc I wanted to see where everyone landed on Ari

jumble looked like scum day1
Ari looked like scum day2
Ari looks like scum day3
my TRs are SRing Ari

GL was my other strong SR but he was really town at EoD and I'm treating his claim as truth
Alisae or Pers are the most likely partners
neither has said they SR Ari today and it is obvious that jumble/Ari is scum if you re-read the game
Let's distance it'll look town lol.

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In post 492, Persivul wrote:Ari/TTTT

We should eventually consider the NL option.
Let's distance it'll look town lol.

Also NLing today is awful, GL will just get shot.
This is a wolf blatantly suggesting the 2nd worst possible outcome (the worst being lynching the de facto lynch for the day)

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:42 am
by Alisae
Like guys, think about it this way.

Aside from me, who is actually defending Ari?
TTTT lol no
Persivul? lol no
Single? Nah thats ur read.
GL? Considering he jailkeeped him no.

Thats the first sign this is probably a lynch on town in MYLO btw.

The second sign is think about the game from a perspective if Ari is town, what is the best scumteam that makes sense?
If you really think about it, its going to be TTTT and Persivul.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:43 am
by Alisae
Like, that part is just self-evident, look how they're playing.

They're starting to be sloppy in their play because they pratically think they have the game on lock.
They're even posting like they have the game on lock.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:46 am
by Alisae
Also the reason why we lynch Persivul > TTTT today is actually fairly simple.
The way those two are playing, it feels like TTTT is the one that is going to get bussed (if they need to resort to that) and Persivul is the one that goes to F3.
IE, the one that needs to survive is Persivul.
So we lynch that one.