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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:21 pm
by Nibbui
I hope you get better soon mastina

now let me openwolf a bit since no one is taking me for real and I'm finding this just hilarious

VOTE: the worst

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:23 pm
by the worst
NSG activity has been low sitewide but I did vote her first and foremost to get her to bite my head off if she's town xD

and..... yeah I have a fair few townreads and don't want to lynch you..... so the second lowest tier on my readlist is like nullscummy players who I am having a massive hard time reading and should consider lynching but largely on a policy basis

I'm not super sure how to explain this but it's not an uncommon feeling for me I don't think?

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:23 pm
by the worst
In post 474, skitter30 wrote:
In post 469, the worst wrote:@skitter, I
agree with your comments around NSG's read on you. a
lso poboqoboqobodob's read list was Intensely Wolfy but not aligned with NSG who I find more patently wolfy in isolation

like that Intensely Wolfy feeling probably also comes from old meta town and he's just recently returned

he's joined this like "susp but unsure" section of my read list
wait so why was her townlean on me 'more or less fine'?
because it might come from town her and might come from scum her but I appreciated the fact you were a rung below {sheep, me}

in a 9p list that's a big deal. there's more offensive stuff in her readslist

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:24 pm
by skitter30
In post 476, the worst wrote:NSG activity has been low sitewide but I did vote her first and foremost to get her to bite my head off if she's town xD

and..... yeah I have a fair few townreads and don't want to lynch you..... so the second lowest tier on my readlist is like nullscummy players who I am having a massive hard time reading and should consider lynching but largely on a policy basis

I'm not super sure how to explain this but it's not an uncommon feeling for me I don't think?
what does 'policy lynch' mean to you?

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:25 pm
by skitter30
and why is pink ball in that category

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:30 pm
by the worst
in a practical sense it's a player I'll consider lynching because I do not townread them and struggle to like get a confident read on them

kinda in the nullscum space, I try not to use it in a more holistic meta sense because imo all players are people too (players who push holistic meta > playing the game are starting to seriously damage my enjoyment of some games)

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:30 pm
by the worst
In post 479, skitter30 wrote:and why is pink ball in that category
I'm finding punk bill incredibly difficult to relate to and like most of his posts especially in the conversation with me had me like ".....ok idrc" and they're so long and full of like.... whatever things

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:31 pm
by the worst
typing this is making me appreciate how heavily personality influenced this is but like. I did ask for people to read him for me and I'm pretty happy leaning on that d1

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:32 pm
by the worst
In post 480, the worst wrote:in a practical sense it's a player I'll consider lynching because I do not townread them and struggle to like get a confident read on them

kinda in the nullscum space, I try not to use it in a more holistic meta sense because imo all players are people too (players who push holistic meta > playing the game are starting to seriously damage my enjoyment of some games)
as a sidenote: if I can't really yet into someone's head and struggle reading them imo I'm more likely to solve the game if they're dead so that definition of policy lynch swings back in

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:34 pm
by the worst
for example I would not advocate lolPLing Not_Mafia D1 very often unless I am very genuinely struggling with him in a game and he's null where I know plenty of players who are comfortable floating the PL anyway

on the flipside InfiniteSoda is someone I can consider PLing because afaict he's made no effort to engage w ajythig

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:36 pm
by skitter30
ok so i guess like the problem that i was having is that i use policy to mean - this player can't be played with for whatever reason (excessive absence, toxicity, trolling etc) so we need to remove them for the game, and the tool we use for that is lynching them (and i think replacement should is a better solution most of the time unless the lsot is like literally irredemable but whatever)

and i guess that's kidna what i thought everyone referred to by 'policy' and what i thought you meant, and i thought that was a bizarre suggestion because like ... i don't think anyone meets that criteria in this game

like what you're describing isn't really policy, more like 'i townread other people more so they're high on my lynch-list', which is more like - you think their play is scummy so you want to lynch them

idk maybe that was me misreading what you meant but that's why i didn't like the pl thing

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:37 pm
by the worst
yeah fair I just hate to say "I scumread NSG but I'll compromise onto these people I cbf reading" but that's more accurate

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:38 pm
by Nibbui
ok tw look I'll simply post here undeniable proof you're scum:

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you can confess the sin of rolling scum against me again already

I'll forgive you

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:40 pm
by the worst
LMFAO no not this shit again :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:44 pm
by the worst
Subject: Micro 801: 2 Mafia, 1 Vigilante, 6 Townies (Game Over)
Fumuki wrote:Vigilant-san, look at this:

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Just send me duckling to the dead thread with me. You either win the game or it hits a third part for sure.

Look at that horns and malicious smile. That's 101% not a town-good-boy.
Fu.. Fumuki was... so mean... :oops:

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:45 pm
by Nibbui
Yeah but this time you are even more scum so I needed to paint you with red all over

it's quite troublesome to represent reads with paint I guess

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:46 pm
by the worst
at least it doesn't look like you pre-made them all this time

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:50 pm
by Nibbui
I didn't pre-made them really just got tired of pretending to be game solvey

by the way what if I tell you that NSG might be town duck?

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look at this smooth
green
hair right here

do you really think she is scum?

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:52 pm
by the worst
the red in that Xmas hat tho
talk me thru what you're seeing?

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:55 pm
by Nibbui
you are looking down on her reasoning and using BoP to say she is scum but you didn't analyze her read on me based on how scum!NSG would fake her reads or how she would look in the game if she was red

that's my simplified opinion and I don't know how much more I can say right now

also don't you find reasonable my scum read on you?

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:58 pm
by the worst
I kinda assumed you're either joking or will go into it later

what are you seeing as strongly town indicative or anti scum indicative from her there? I'm only a meta heavy player when I feel comfortable in my tells and I don't feel comfortable meta reading NSG so ironically the bop in this conversation is you assuming I would analyse her iso against her scumgames :lol: I will not

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:59 pm
by the worst
also I don't think your bop of me is wolfy here you're just projecting that I should be proficient in an area of mafia I am not proficient on and suggesting my reads are ineligible on that basis

I'd rather talk about this at a more engaging level

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:04 pm
by Nibbui
I don't mean you're using BoP on her by comparing her town game vs scum game

I mean you're using it in this way:

"oh look NSG, I think her town game is good and her reasoning is usually good so let's see what she posts"

*NSG posts a case with a tell on words that you find as bad as reading someone by "slips"*

"I think her reasoning is bad and I don't think this comes from town!NSG"

You even say "I don't know what she is doing if she is town" in a post on your ISO.

There's the fact that she did put you high in the read list but I think you've not mulled over her reasoning on me enough and what it might indicate

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:10 pm
by Nibbui
In post 496, the worst wrote:also I don't think your bop of me is wolfy here you're just projecting that I should be proficient in an area of mafia I am not proficient on and suggesting my reads are ineligible on that basis

I'd rather talk about this at a more engaging level
To be honest I wasn't scum reading you at all, I was more kind of null on you until now but I don't know what to do with the fact you're not suspicious enough of me

in every game we played until now you circled a lot your read on me and almost always did wolflean me, but here I'm not seeing that, your read on me seems overly static. Also, you had a problem with me in all of those games if I was scum reading (when you were town that is).

You can say for example that my "scum slip" from before was just a reaction test but do you really think I'm that far from doing it as scum because I know that if done in the right way, not only I'll amuse myself as I'll get ignored and treated as a silly townie guy trying to do a bad reaction test?

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:13 pm
by the worst
In post 497, Nibbui wrote:"I think her reasoning is bad and I don't think this comes from town!NSG"

You even say "I don't know what she is doing if she is town" in a post on your ISO.

There's the fact that she did put you high in the read list but I think you've not mulled over her reasoning on me enough and what it might indicate
That's not bop

I don't think it's a towny read

Also I am asking to see what you see as towny in it because it's liable to be something in my blind spot but I don't see it