Mini Normal 2081 — My First Game! [Game Over]

[skitter30]

I'll catch up in an hour or so

[Menalque]

Would you still scum read me Mena if I claimed cop?

I think this is a weird post to make?

but yeah probs, as I'm more persuaded by the pk doc claim and if you were to do it after having said this then I'd be doubly sceptical?

[Menalque]

Did you not read any of what I said regarding Exilon to PK?

I mean I did but I don't see how it's relevant? But tbf that could just be me being dumb

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Would you still scum read me Mena if I claimed cop?

I think this is a weird post to make?

but yeah probs, as I'm more persuaded by the pk doc claim and if you were to do it after having said this then I'd be doubly sceptical?

So since you would be willing to lynch play over role, what’s preventing you from doing the same with PK?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Did you not read any of what I said regarding Exilon to PK?

I mean I did but I don't see how it's relevant? But tbf that could just be me being dumb

How could it not be relevant? They came just before I expressed intent.

[Menalque]

Would you still scum read me Mena if I claimed cop?

I think this is a weird post to make?

but yeah probs, as I'm more persuaded by the pk doc claim and if you were to do it after having said this then I'd be doubly sceptical?

So since you would be willing to lynch play over role, what’s preventing you from doing the same with PK?

the.... fact that I think PK is legit? and that I think the set up would be a bit broken with doc & cop, which would make a claim from you coming later much much weaker

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Would you still scum read me Mena if I claimed cop?

I think this is a weird post to make?

but yeah probs, as I'm more persuaded by the pk doc claim and if you were to do it after having said this then I'd be doubly sceptical?

So since you would be willing to lynch play over role, what’s preventing you from doing the same with PK?

the.... fact that I think PK is legit? and that I think the set up would be a bit broken with doc & cop, which would make a claim from you coming later much much weaker

I’m not claiming anything. I’m saying if I were to claim a PR right now, would you still scum read me?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Let’s go with neighborizer. Would you still scum read me?

[skitter30]

ok i'm around now, catching up

[Menalque]

If you claimed PR right now I would scumread you still because you’re not either at L-1 or intent and it would therefore be a dumbass move if you were town

[skitter30]

I'm kind of null on how Exilon responded to me pressuring them. On the one hand, they seemed to be trying to gamesolve but I feel like the way they were arguing against me was weird.

i basically feel the same way about exilon

[skitter30]

I think what really sells me one way or another is how passive i think they are. unbiased observer. The key being reactionary in nature. And i dont like that.
VOTE: exilon

i don't understand
are you suggesting that being passive is a scum trait, and that being reactionary is a townie trait? or are you trying to say something else?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

And if I claimed it at L-1 or intent?

What I’m getting that is I don’t see how the doctor claim had you going from this:

I think I’m still scumreading pisskop at this point with the switch from me to exilon being a result of skitter/cinn both picking up on it being forced

The cinnamon TR feels like it could be an attempt to pocket?

But it’s all also so blatant that I kind of wanna TR for it because I think scum would at least try to have some subtlety, but equally I don’t know your meta at all

To not wanting to lynch him at all? You’re clearly reading him on play here.

[pisskop]

reactionary play is bad play

i don't understand
are you suggesting that being passive is a scum trait, and that being reactionary is a townie trait? or are you trying to say something else?

[skitter30]

Also, q for the board: is greeting the thread only considered a scumtell in newbie games?

idgi

saying hi isnt really a scumtell. maybe for nervous new players but that seems really unreliable since some come out swinging and some dont?

it's actually a fairly well documented tell in the newbie queue that seems to be pretty accurate; someone (tttt) tracked this over all newbie games for several months and this is what he found; here's a link if you're intersted:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=79490

[skitter30]

reactionary play is bad play

i don't understand
are you suggesting that being passive is a scum trait, and that being reactionary is a townie trait? or are you trying to say something else?

and so you're voting him for being bad ...?

[Menalque]

re:487

Unless you’d crumbed it really well I think I’d struggle to believe a pr claim from you now

Also it’s less that I’m townreading pisskop, more that my lynchpool is both of you and I think you’re

scummier

[Menalque]

If you are town then maybe go away and think about why that’s happening as a whole

[skitter30]

The cinnamon TR feels like it could be an attempt to pocket?

i'm not sure i really got that vibe

[skitter30]

i think exilon is p townie?

[skitter30]

oh hey.

im the doc

gg guys

not really sure that i believe

(also why 'the' doc?)

[skitter30]

I mean scum me hammer rn sooooo what you gonna do rob

can you show me an example of where you did this?
and, possibly more interestingly, where you didnt?

[pisskop]

I have both town and scumhammers on myself. I cant be assed to. maybe my wiki can

[skitter30]

So from no-one moving off I’m gathering that this is being read as a fake claim? I’d like to know why before a hammer drops

UNVOTE:

if pisskop is scum ur a v very viable partner imo

[skitter30]

your wiki is literally just a period

how am i supposed to know whether or not it's true that you'd have fake-hammered here as scum

also ... so were you voting exilon for being bad?