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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:08 pm
by MariaR
In post 295, Cephrir wrote:I guess I'll hold off on accepting if it's just going to get you lynched.
This feels pretty LAMIST. I don’t like this reaction, I would’ve townread it if he just said yes to the dance, but this is just blah.
In post 302, Ankamius wrote: In post 277, Gamma Emerald wrote:1: okay, why does not taking a lead = going out early?
2: there's people you do know you can pair with, myself included.
3: I really feel you're jumping the gun on this whole deal overall, you assume just because people don't know you, they won't like you (at least that's the feeling you're giving me)
I think you're probably not especially aware of the fundamental basis behind this mindset
I'm primarily looking to avoid being a paranoia mislynch late in the game, which I suspect is a reasonable possibility if I start taking a lead role in the game throughout and the game hits a point where there's like... three pairings left. I would like to avoid that scenario.
I also have a tendency to get emotional or have my particular personality quirks either frustrate other people enough to compromise their ability to hunt properly or to shut myself down so that I become useless; I expect that this playerlist is one that this can happen in depending on how the game goes
if there's a high enough possibility of either of these scenarios happening, then it's far better for me to try to build an endgame townblock to PoE out the game and leave to cement that my solve is town motivated than to try to push each lynch myself and risk compromising the entire game over it
it's ultimately a decision of practicality over what is better for town in the lategame rather than the present; it's one of the reasons I'm very uneasy with the early townreads I've gotten, because becoming a consensus obvtown read has the downside of me practically being forced to be in that endgame pairing and risk the second scenario happening (unless I'm the designated sacrifice with Kagami for intermission, but I don't believe that's ever optimal unless I'm one of the biggest question mark slots in the game)
I’d dance with Ank but I know for a fact we’d be a prime. ‘Ank/Maria are towny but they’re really good at scum let’s lynch them.’ It’d be fun to try and talk to Ank though given we have our own playstyle clashes at times. She seems strong enough though…
Thank god I don’t have to read Fire because he’ll get himself killed as either town or scum.
Same.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:10 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 475, MariaR wrote: In post 295, Cephrir wrote:I guess I'll hold off on accepting if it's just going to get you lynched.
This feels pretty LAMIST. I don’t like this reaction, I would’ve townread it if he just said yes to the dance, but this is just blah.
In post 475, MariaR wrote:I’d dance with Ank but I know for a fact we’d be a prime. ‘Ank/Maria are towny but they’re really good at scum let’s lynch them.’ It’d be fun to try and talk to Ank though given we have our own playstyle clashes at times. She seems strong enough though…
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:11 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 474, unwnd wrote:Alright still nothing has synced with me yet, I've dusted myself off and a bit hungover so I'm gonna go pretend to be using the "bathroom" but instead of the bathroom it's just me crying alone in the stall because nobody wants to dance with me
Hey don't worry I think you're nice and I might dance with you
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:11 pm
by Cephrir
In post 474, unwnd wrote:Alright still nothing has synced with me yet, I've dusted myself off and a bit hungover so I'm gonna go pretend to be using the "bathroom" but instead of the bathroom it's just me crying alone in the stall because nobody wants to dance with me
im pretty sure you arent antihero but im not completely sure
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:11 pm
by Cephrir
In post 475, MariaR wrote:This feels pretty LAMIST. I don’t like this reaction, I would’ve townread it if he just said yes to the dance, but this is just blah.
don't you always hate my guts anyway? just start now!
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:11 pm
by Ankamius
yeah idk how to take that post exactly
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:14 pm
by Firebringer
well i disagree with everything maria has posted so far.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:15 pm
by MariaR
And what makes you townread them?
In post 390, Cephrir wrote:@ank what i mostly meant is that i don't think most players give a flying fuck about deadtown reads even if they're nightkilled (they should, but they don't, and it is hard to account for & weigh against your own opinions)
Preach, if people looked at dead towns reads they’d have a much higher winrate. It’s why scum can just kill X with almost no downside in this game type.
Don’t worry, I’ll have a read on Dunn before the game is over and it’ll be fine. (In fact I’m already in the lean of one)
^
Me and Dunn being in a neighborhood is boring since we shouldn’t need a PT to be able to read each other it’s pretty sub-optimal.
In post 450, unwnd wrote:
What I notice from him is that he is quickly dismissive of his own decisions, there's a lot of interactions where I feel like he's going to lead with something or have a purpose to get involved and then he just handwaves it. I tried to get him to open up about Bitmap and I didn't really get anything out of it. You'd think with the amount he's posting his direction would be more clear, but it's really not.
I understand it's pre-game but he seems pretty intent on actually trying to play Mafia but then halfway he goes back to a more lax attitude which is lol
If this was anyone but you I swear...
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:15 pm
by OkaPoka
shading already paired people in pre dance is a ???
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:15 pm
by unwnd
Loool what does this mean
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:16 pm
by Cephrir
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:16 pm
by Gamma Emerald
@Maria
what do you think of Dunn so far?
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:17 pm
by OkaPoka
waste of real estate
we can always come back and shade once we have lynches available~
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:18 pm
by MariaR
In post 464, Cephrir wrote: In post 458, unwnd wrote: In post 455, Cephrir wrote: In post 450, unwnd wrote:What I notice from him is that he is quickly dismissive of his own decisions, there's a lot of interactions where I feel like he's going to lead with something or have a purpose to get involved and then he just handwaves it. I tried to get him to open up about Bitmap and I didn't really get anything out of it. You'd think with the amount he's posting his direction would be more clear, but it's really not.
I understand it's pre-game but he seems pretty intent on actually trying to play Mafia but then halfway he goes back to a more lax attitude which is lol
i realize im not qualified to be the person to tell you this but you've just identified that i am still cephrir and have not been replaced with a doppelganger
It just seems a bit contradicting yknow? I'm not sure how you would to represent yourself, unless you are saying you try to do both
ill break it down for you
im dismissive of my own decisions. i am a low confidence wishy washy person. confidence is legitimately such a good meta scumtell on me that i have to fake this demeanor as scum and have been caught by slipping it up. ive previously made an alt where i pretended to be more confident than i actually felt as town, and admittedly i scumhunted more successfully but i felt like i was lying in every post
i sometimes drop points and get bored with them, i am a bit erratic. sometimes i will make posts for absolutely no reason purely to share my thoughts with the thread. it's just me being me!
and i'm trying to win but i'm more here to have a good time than to prove i'm the very best like no one ever was. i already know that i'm not particularly good at this game, i'm just here because it's something to do.
I believe everything Cephir is saying in this post, but that doesn’t make it towny considering if it’s such a big tell as he’s claiming he needs to play a certain way or he’ll be caught right away.
In post 476, Dunnstral wrote: In post 475, MariaR wrote: In post 295, Cephrir wrote:I guess I'll hold off on accepting if it's just going to get you lynched.
This feels pretty LAMIST. I don’t like this reaction, I would’ve townread it if he just said yes to the dance, but this is just blah.
In post 475, MariaR wrote:I’d dance with Ank but I know for a fact we’d be a prime. ‘Ank/Maria are towny but they’re really good at scum let’s lynch them.’ It’d be fun to try and talk to Ank though given we have our own playstyle clashes at times. She seems strong enough though…
I don’t know why you’re quoting this like the context is even close to the same.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:19 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 487, OkaPoka wrote:
waste of real estate
we can always come back and shade once we have lynches available~
I disagree, paired people will be relevant soon and it doesn't hurt to talk about it now
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:19 pm
by MariaR
In post 479, Cephrir wrote: In post 475, MariaR wrote:This feels pretty LAMIST. I don’t like this reaction, I would’ve townread it if he just said yes to the dance, but this is just blah.
don't you always hate my guts anyway? just start now!
Don't worry the only thing I hate in life is my personality
Quiet you I'm gonna tug on your ear again.
I plan on telling my partner my exact reads and all that. Since Dunn is going to get a partner it's better to let people form opinions before they get influenced by my own.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:20 pm
by Cephrir
In post 487, OkaPoka wrote:
waste of real estate
we can always come back and shade once we have lynches available~
i don't think anyone will care anymore at that point
i'd rather solve the game with whatever solving power we have available
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:20 pm
by MariaR
Yeah I wanna Dance with ank but I know they won't offer me that if it took ages so I suppose I'll wait.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:21 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 490, MariaR wrote:
I plan on telling my partner my exact reads and all that. Since Dunn is going to get a partner it's better to let people form opinions before they get influenced by my own.
I don't care what others think I care what you think
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:22 pm
by unwnd
Think Ank/Fire is more spicy but Ank/Maria could solve both slots equally. Unsure about Maria's output thus far besides the murderous glare her avatar is constantly giving me
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:23 pm
by Dunnstral
Have you figured out why I townread Bitmap yet
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:23 pm
by Firebringer
maria is town.
ank is scum.
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:23 pm
by unwnd
P-edit:
Fire/Popsofctown
In my head I think Ank/Fire could have one which is why I probably paired them
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:23 pm
by MariaR
In post 493, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 490, MariaR wrote:
I plan on telling my partner my exact reads and all that. Since Dunn is going to get a partner it's better to let people form opinions before they get influenced by my own.
I don't care what others think I care what you think
That's the exact reason I'm holding off I'm giving my Dunn read.
If I told people with extreme confidence what my Dunn read was atm they'd probably listen to me given everyone knows I can read Dunn better then pretty much anyone on the site.
Pedit: The avatar is supposed to be more monotone/on the lazy side. I'm using this one for reasons
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:24 pm
by unwnd
I can feel the uninterested, "oh god why is he here" stare her avatar is constantly giving me*