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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:15 pm

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In post 474, Definitely Not Scum wrote:So you believe the bolded, despite Dunnstral linking a game you thought he did something where he posted only 11 times the entire game.

It's funny because in that game Dunnstral also caught scum you instantly.

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You bet I believe it.

and i don't care about that game and didn't pay attention to dunny in it. I was scum and didn't have to worry about him or think about what he was doing. I just appeased everyone else and flew by easily.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:16 pm

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i actually remarked in the scumthread about dunny in that game that there was no way I was going to get him to townread me because he always scumreads me. So you could take that for what its worth. Which I think is worthless.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:18 pm

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In post 476, bitbringer wrote:i actually remarked in the scumthread about dunny in that game that there was no way I was going to get him to townread me because he always scumreads me. So you could take that for what its worth. Which I think is worthless.
So if it is his default status against you, why is it scum in this game? By your own admission, it seems like it should be not alignment indicative.

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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:19 pm

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In post 477, Definitely Not Scum wrote:
In post 476, bitbringer wrote:i actually remarked in the scumthread about dunny in that game that there was no way I was going to get him to townread me because he always scumreads me. So you could take that for what its worth. Which I think is worthless.
So if it is his default status against you, why is it scum in this game? By your own admission, it seems like it should be not alignment indicative.

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thats actually a good point.

then i guess this is a counter push against someone who refuses to try to read me.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:20 pm

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In post 475, bitbringer wrote:You bet I believe it.

and i don't care about that game and didn't pay attention to dunny in it.
I think Dunnstral providing that game and making the implicit assertion that it is ridiculous to say he did something in that game despite only posting 11 times to be sorting your current motivations.

He even said your read was fake based off the reasoning implicit reasoning that Dunnstral is not doing something here, but did something in the game he linked. That very much looks like sorting.

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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:21 pm

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Like I think dunny tries to read me when he is town in some way and I don't understand it when I am scum, but this still feels exceptionally fake to me. Maybe I am just trying to double down on it.

I am really convinced dunny is still scum tho.

God my reasoning might not be as sound as i thought tho.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:21 pm

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It is so weird to talk about people as if they would talk about themselves in the third person. :thonk:
I'm not going to do that anymore because it's just very messy.

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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:22 pm

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In post 479, Definitely Not Scum wrote:I think Dunnstral providing that game and making the implicit assertion that it is ridiculous to say he did something in that game despite only posting 11 times to be sorting your current motivations.
definitely not.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:22 pm

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In post 482, bitbringer wrote:
In post 479, Definitely Not Scum wrote:I think Dunnstral providing that game and making the implicit assertion that it is ridiculous to say he did something in that game despite only posting 11 times to be sorting your current motivations.
definitely not.
How is that not sorting?

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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:23 pm

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In post 479, Definitely Not Scum wrote:He even said your read was fake based off the reasoning implicit reasoning that Dunnstral is not doing something here, but did something in the game he linked. That very much looks like sorting.
incorrect again. That is just countering an argument. He isn't trying to figure out what I am thinking or what is going through my head. He is pushing a counter narrative which is just argumentation its just sorting. Its the opposite of sorting.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:24 pm

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pushing a counter argument isn't equivalent to sorting.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:24 pm

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ur pushing for more sorting than dunny by a million percent and i disagree with everything ur saying.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:25 pm

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What is sorting in your opinion, then?

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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:26 pm

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getting inside a persons head to figure out their state of mind and figuring out their alignment based on that. Its actively probing. Dunny isn't actively probing for anything.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:27 pm

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In post 488, bitbringer wrote:getting inside a persons head to figure out their state of mind and figuring out their alignment based on that. Its actively probing. Dunny isn't actively probing for anything.
Does he ever actively probe for anything...?

It doesn't look like he was actively probing in the Guns and Roses game you linked. For as someone as aware of Dunnstral's habits towards you, they seem very surface level and predicated on your obsession that he always scumreads you.

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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:28 pm

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yes he does.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:31 pm

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What if I said you're both town?

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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:31 pm

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i would ask you why r u townreading him?
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:32 pm

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What if I said trust me?

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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:33 pm

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this is literally my only scumread. either give me a good spicey scumread for me to ignore funnstral for the time being or give me good reason to believe funnstral is town.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:35 pm

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I mean Pops is a spicey scum read. You could probe there. Do you agree with her opinion about NaCL? Volxen and I do not. We think NaCL is one of the more townie slots in the game.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:34 pm

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In post 464, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 455, bitbringer wrote:Oh good, we're voting Dunnstral. I expected more from him after Guns and Roses.

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I didn't do anything in guns and roses
ur reads werent shit

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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:41 pm

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Bitmap is easier to get a townread on when they're town. This game does not match that. Him pointing to guns and roses was pretty bad. Again, they never said that there wasn't a reason to scumread them, just that my scumread looks "fake"

When fire is scum he proposed bad mechanical plays and also "jokingly" claims scum.

The pair is also simultaneously arguing that I "always scumread fire" (citation needed, by the way) and that I'm not sorting. So they're simultaneously trying to shade my read and calling me scum and seeing which one sticks
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:57 pm

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ohhh maybe dunn is town.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:58 pm

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i thought i had a good read. :(
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