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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:00 pm
by Geyde
Radja/Farren

Perfectly explains the thread warping that I mentioned earlier
Their slots were active but not entirely engaged in solving the Fish/ETL/Gilded interaction in the early game that could have easily turned into lynches on either side
They've lockscummed each other but somehow they aren't voting each other when in reality there's no reason not to (there's support for a Radja lynch in Faustiv and Farren's wagon is defo a thing)
And when the votes fall almost everything is outside of this thread-warping interaction. Wouldn't 2 scum want to take advantage of this interaction?
Instead, people are going for the two players most outside of the sphere

If Farren was scum with Fish, wouldn't it benefit them completely to at least come to a solid conclusion on the slot?

These are all questions that are immediately coming when I think of the interaction
A well done bus here on either side would win them the game outright

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:04 pm
by Geyde
And I don't feel like I'm worldbuilding when I'm looking at this
Seriously, who else is the scumteam here

Fish/Farren is trash because they are condemning the other should one flip
Fish/Yoda seems slightly plausible under the idea that Fish heaving his slot's presence onto a wagon would make it less desirable, but following them on my slot alongside a bus that doesn't need to exist d1 is just no

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:04 pm
by Geyde
I might be around for EoD
emphasis on might

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:56 pm
by TheGildedSun
Sorry for being silent, I've been at a MUN conference all day without any electronic device, will contribute more tomorrow.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:13 pm
by alimdia
Unoffical votecount:

With 9 living players it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Formerfish (3): alimdia, Yodavader Radja

Farren (2): , EspeciallyTheLies Geyde

Yodavader (3): faüstiv Formerfish Farren

Not Voting (1): TheGildedSun

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:15 pm
by alimdia
FYI Yoda was on L-1, then Geyde unvotes, then votes Fish putting him on L1... then unvotes and votes Farren.

Didn't you say we need to vote {Fish, Farren}? Isn't having Fish at L-1 better? Considering we only have 14 hours left.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:34 pm
by Geyde
In post 480, alimdia wrote:FYI Yoda was on L-1, then Geyde unvotes, then votes Fish putting him on L1... then unvotes and votes Farren.

Didn't you say we need to vote {Fish, Farren}? Isn't having Fish at L-1 better? Considering we only have 14 hours left.
I'm pretty sure we can pull off a Farren lynch

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:21 pm
by EspeciallyTheLies
The struggle currently happening with lynching farren is a huge GD indication.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:16 pm
by Yodavader
Since we are getting close to end of day, I will gladly be the hammer for any wagon today except for Fish, since I am already voting him. And yes, that includes hammering myself. I will also roleclaim right now to help your decisions. I am a
Vanilla Town
. Hopefully we can get some traction for anything going into N1.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:06 pm
by Radja
I will join a Farren wagon if I need to, but I would really prefer a Fish lynch here.

Also Yoda… there was no point in claiming, please don't ever do that again.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:07 pm
by Radja
In post 482, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:The struggle currently happening with lynching farren is a huge GD indication.
What's GD? I probably should know this but it doesn't come to mind.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:41 pm
by faüstiv
geyde's analysis is really good.

does yoda claim VT here as scum? not sure. he's putting a rod on his own back by claiming this early so it's probably coming from town.

i should be around for end of day.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:13 pm
by Yodavader
In post 484, Radja wrote:I will join a Farren wagon if I need to, but I would really prefer a Fish lynch here.

Also Yoda… there was no point in claiming, please don't ever do that again.
But to me, there was a point. I'm getting really anxious about EOD and I'm one of the possible wagons. I'm trying to help everyone else out by giving more info. If we were not this close to EOD, I would have waited until I was L-1 plus intent.

also, WIFOM time. Does me claiming VT and also saying that I would gladly hammer myself make me scum?

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:18 pm
by eth0s
Official Vote Count 1.20

LynchingWith 9 living players it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Yodavader
(3): faüstiv, Formerfish, Farren

Formerfish
(3): alimdia, Yodavader, Radja

Farren
(2): EspeciallyTheLies, Geyde

Not Voting
(1): TheGildedSun

Deadline:
(expired on 2019-11-03 12:50:00).


Mod notes:
n/a[/area]

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:37 pm
by faüstiv
In post 487, Yodavader wrote:
In post 484, Radja wrote:I will join a Farren wagon if I need to, but I would really prefer a Fish lynch here.

Also Yoda… there was no point in claiming, please don't ever do that again.
But to me, there was a point. I'm getting really anxious about EOD and I'm one of the possible wagons. I'm trying to help everyone else out by giving more info. If we were not this close to EOD, I would have waited until I was L-1 plus intent.

also, WIFOM time. Does me claiming VT and
also saying that I would gladly hammer myself make me scum?
i don't really care about that bit, but claiming this early on only invites lynches onto your slot due to fear of flushing out a PR.

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:41 pm
by Formerfish
It also helps scum with nk choices, since you claimed vt they know not to shoot you.

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:34 am
by Yodavader
In post 489, faüstiv wrote:
In post 487, Yodavader wrote:
In post 484, Radja wrote:I will join a Farren wagon if I need to, but I would really prefer a Fish lynch here.

Also Yoda… there was no point in claiming, please don't ever do that again.
But to me, there was a point. I'm getting really anxious about EOD and I'm one of the possible wagons. I'm trying to help everyone else out by giving more info. If we were not this close to EOD, I would have waited until I was L-1 plus intent.

also, WIFOM time. Does me claiming VT and
also saying that I would gladly hammer myself make me scum?
i don't really care about that bit, but claiming this early on only invites lynches onto your slot due to fear of flushing out a PR.
In post 490, Formerfish wrote:It also helps scum with nk choices, since you claimed vt they know not to shoot you.
Understood and understood. My mistake. It won't happen again, but can we please get something moving.

I would like to know what Gilded thinks since she is the only one not voting.

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:52 am
by faüstiv
no problem, tis a learning experience for us all

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:30 am
by alimdia
In post 482, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:The struggle currently happening with lynching farren is a huge GD indication.
Alright.. let's see if we can get people back on this

UNVOTE: Unvote

VOTE: Farren

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:12 am
by Radja
I guess??

VOTE: Farren


That's L-1, Farren please claim.

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:18 am
by alimdia
In post 490, Formerfish wrote:It also helps scum with nk choices, since you claimed vt they know not to shoot you.
That could be WIFOM too tbh

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:19 am
by Yodavader
Hammer is coming.

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:21 am
by alimdia
In post 496, Yodavader wrote:Hammer is coming.

Are we not waiting on Farren? Granted we only have 4 hours left..

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:43 am
by Yodavader
That's why it's coming and not here yet.

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:15 am
by Yodavader
I will wait 4 more minutes.