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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:04 pm

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In post 467, ofrhz wrote:
In post 465, Alisae wrote:sell me on it
I don’t have anything beyond

Which may not look like much on first glance, but he hasn’t done much either
I liked the comment they made about bitmap in response to me saying that rc would just write his posts. It seemed innocent
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:05 pm

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In post 469, Alisae wrote:Or is there supposedly another reason, if not, please enlighten me :good:
Having a random overly strong focus on someone who is scumreading you, is something that is a not-very-uncommon scumtell.

It's by far not a reliable 100% scum indicator. Player personality plays a huge factor in it, both the person doing the focus and the person being focused on and their histories with each other. (For instance, there's a big difference between a scummer like, sayyyyyy, Ginngie focusing on me, and randomscummerwithalmostzeromastinaexperience, focusing on me.)

It's not even newb-specific; even I to this very day, have that tendency as scum which I usually lack as town.

Players can have an overly strong focus on someone scumreading them as town, especially given the above mentioned factors of personality and history...
...But it is still a scumtell because it is a tell that comes from scum more often than it comes from town, by a rather significant amount.
There's no such thing as a scumtell that is 100% always scum-indicative; most scumtells that are actually scumtells are more in the range of 60-80% scum-indicative.
And that is precisely the percentage I would attribute to this tell's accuracy. Not 100%, but not a low 51% basically-not-a-tell.

It IS a tell, indicative of scum about 60-80% of the time, and a tell that has no experience limit. Newbs can do it, players who have played for ten years can do it.

So is it a lockscum guaranteed indicator that they are scum, no.
IS it an indicator of them being scum? Yes.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:07 pm

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Hey mafiascum I’m not a furry.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:09 pm

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SHUT THE FUCK UP FURRY
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:09 pm

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Of course not, phocidaphilia is completely different
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:12 pm

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wat
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:29 pm

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In post 243, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 215, Kerset wrote: I don't trust you. We are awesome and you wouldn't just leave us. Get back here evil one.
VOTE: shadow
Do I know you? ଲ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *)ଲ This is weirdly familiar for someone I don't know who the Jigoku they are.
You don't but maybe you will be able to recognize dear Nanami if you switch from this shadow form.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:31 pm

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In post 266, ofrhz wrote:
In post 220, Kerset wrote:Mena and jingle are like school bullies, who
bully bitmap because he has famous relative
. It feels like excuse to make a push rather then accurate one.
Are you talking about them asking for RC's reads in the bolded? Why is that scummy?

It makes sense to ask a known, strong player for their reads.

VOTE: Kerset
It makes sense to ask but you still can do this with bad intentions. It is a first step to discredit bitmap. Just look at mastina.
It is all about genuity, so i don't see any point you making here.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:32 pm

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In post 406, Klick wrote:
In post 342, Alisae wrote:I don't think those posts are town indicative.
In fact, I feel like thats the sort of pressure thats applied by scum with the mindset of "how can I make this person look like an idiot as much as possible."
Why would there be any need to make mastina look bad? The general opinion of her in this thread is already negative. That wouldn't serve any purpose.

For what it's worth, I don't think mastina is scum
So is it AI or not?
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:32 pm

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In post 480, Alisae wrote:wat
The seals, phocids or true seals are one of the three main groups of mammals within the seal lineage, Pinnipedia. All true seals are members of the family
Phocidae
/ˈfoʊsɪdiː/. They are sometimes called crawling seals to distinguish them from the fur seals and sea lions of the family Otariidae. Seals live in the oceans of both hemispheres and, with the exception of the more tropical monk seals, are mostly confined to polar, subpolar, and temperate climates. The Baikal seal is the only species of exclusively freshwater seal.

In the 1980s, phylogenetic analysis of the phocids led to new conclusions about the interrelatedness of the various genera. The four genera Hydrurga, Leptonychotes, Lobodon, and Ommatophoca form a monophyletic group, the tribe Lobodontini. Likewise, the Phocinae subfamily (Erignathus, Cystophora, and Phocini) is also monophyletic. More recently, five species have been split off from Phoca, forming three additional genera. However, the subfamily Monachinae (the lobodonts Mirounga) is probably paraphyletic.

Basically the love of seals because not all seals are furry. There's a distinct and important difference in this.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:34 pm

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My team has a fondness of the harp seal which is demonstrated in all our avatars.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:34 pm

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In post 362, hitogoroshi wrote:
In post 357, Menalque wrote: I think I'm fairly strong on Ali!town bc I feel the same way about klick atm, and her point about gamma
wait this doesn't track, I mean I feel the same way about eir (tbh Alisae and Bitmap both just get town vibes on effort tell right now, it's classic for a reason) but if you like the counterpoint to your point about gamma's absence being scummy that feels like some unresolved tension
In post 366, hitogoroshi wrote:
@hito I'm going to bed imminently but yeah I have multiple games with gamma and he's been consistently a much higher poster when town vs scum apart from when he had a head injury and dropped in activity site wide

I don't know what you mean about Ali and unresolved tension

I like that she thought gamma was scummy for not being around but then checked and walked it back because he's not been on site?
The unresolved tension is that, if you like a walkback after seeing Gamma is not on site, I would imagine you either a.) also walk it back or b.) try to impress upon Alisae the reason why you
aren't
walking it back. Just don't get the set of motivations where you're like "that's a good walkback of your gamma suspicion! anyway I'ma chill mutely with my gamma vote"
You are really just tried to imply that read has to be black or white. You can still townread person, even if you two have different views on Gamma. Creating
personal
pressure on TR to change their read based on your metaknowlege is rather scum tactic.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:36 pm

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In post 454, Menalque wrote:The fuck are people voting ofhrz for
The reason is on the same posts. I don't like this post.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:37 pm

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In post 464, ofrhz wrote:Can I interest anyone in a Kerset
counter
wagon?
I corrected this for you.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:39 pm

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In post 482, Kerset wrote:
In post 266, ofrhz wrote:
In post 220, Kerset wrote:Mena and jingle are like school bullies, who
bully bitmap because he has famous relative
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Are you talking about them asking for RC's reads in the bolded? Why is that scummy?

It makes sense to ask a known, strong player for their reads.

VOTE: Kerset
It makes sense to ask but you still can do this with bad intentions. It is a first step to discredit bitmap. Just look at mastina.
It is all about genuity, so i don't see any point you making here.
To clarify, you’re saying mena, jingle, and Mastina sounded disingenuous in their bitmap pushes? If so, where?
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:42 pm

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In post 413, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 412, Bitmap wrote:RC thinks Klick is town.
What about you
Wow someone acknowledged bitmap as a player. You deserve a cake for that.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:50 pm

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In post 489, ofrhz wrote:
In post 482, Kerset wrote:
In post 266, ofrhz wrote:
In post 220, Kerset wrote:Mena and jingle are like school bullies, who
bully bitmap because he has famous relative
. It feels like excuse to make a push rather then accurate one.
Are you talking about them asking for RC's reads in the bolded? Why is that scummy?

It makes sense to ask a known, strong player for their reads.

VOTE: Kerset
It makes sense to ask but you still can do this with bad intentions. It is a first step to discredit bitmap. Just look at mastina.
It is all about genuity, so i don't see any point you making here.
To clarify, you’re saying mena, jingle, and Mastina sounded disingenuous in their bitmap pushes? If so, where?
In basically every relation there as they were only speaking about RC reads.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:51 pm

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In post 483, Kerset wrote:
In post 406, Klick wrote:
In post 342, Alisae wrote:I don't think those posts are town indicative.
In fact, I feel like thats the sort of pressure thats applied by scum with the mindset of "how can I make this person look like an idiot as much as possible."
Why would there be any need to make mastina look bad? The general opinion of her in this thread is already negative. That wouldn't serve any purpose.

For what it's worth, I don't think mastina is scum
So is it AI or not?
I'm not sure what you're asking here, sorry. Could you rephrase?
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:53 pm

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@kerset: I’m still not seeing how they were being disingenuous in those interactions or why you thought they had bad intentions in asking for reads
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:55 pm

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In post 302, Jingle wrote:
In post 284, Shadoweh wrote:jingle has posted nothing but spamposts since he started
Nah, there's relevant content too. I'm just very content to be passive atm.
You are trying to make reactions with votes but you don't seem to care about effects.
In post 440, Jingle wrote:VOTE: ofhrz

Typing is hard, man.
You moved there without any care about your previous opportunistic vote. Aside of who do you vote, you make it in scumy way.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:58 pm

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In post 165, mastina wrote:AlsoVOTE: Bitmap.
This is rc coaching a scumbuddy on how to play scum. :]
If you don't see agenda then look at the effect of it. Bitmap gets voted for being coached. Do you see how setting up environment gives effects?
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:05 pm

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In post 389, Alisae wrote:
In post 384, mastina wrote:
In post 336, Alisae wrote:
In post 264, Bitmap wrote:I think Klick is leaning town.
Same question goes out to you
Because Bitmap is Klick's scumbuddy. :shifty:
Do you wanna join the wagon?
Am i not the one asked but is there some sort of backstory, which i am not aware of? Does Klick have some sort of specific meta, which apeared here? I don't get the idea behind this wagon.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:14 pm

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When you’re done catching up, could I get a quick readslist so I can see where you are?
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:50 pm

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In post 492, Klick wrote:
In post 483, Kerset wrote:
In post 406, Klick wrote:
In post 342, Alisae wrote:I don't think those posts are town indicative.
In fact, I feel like thats the sort of pressure thats applied by scum with the mindset of "how can I make this person look like an idiot as much as possible."
Why would there be any need to make mastina look bad? The general opinion of her in this thread is already negative. That wouldn't serve any purpose.

For what it's worth, I don't think mastina is scum
So is it AI or not?
I'm not sure what you're asking here, sorry. Could you rephrase?
Do you make nonscum read based on this or outside of it? You suggest that this thing is nonaligment indicative.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:51 pm

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In post 497, ofrhz wrote:When you’re done catching up, could I get a quick readslist so I can see where you are?

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