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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:44 pm
by shos
Shoval.
Or shos

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:36 pm
by Bingle
In post 473, shos wrote:Bungle says I am lying because I didn't express surprise at being given daytalk. Rather stupid IMO and a non-defensible argument which townies don't often make
Not at all. I’m saying that I lied to make the case on you look stronger because I wanted to see how you and others would react. But apparently no one did the slightest bit of follow through to check my case.

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:37 pm
by Bingle
Subject: Micro 901 | Penguin Mafia, The Third | Mafia PT
shos wrote:Also it's awesome that we have daytalk. *warms engine*
^relevant post

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:35 pm
by shos
Oh wow. Cool.
That's actually impressive.

Bingle just became town

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:13 am
by Blatant Scum
In post 455, Not A Korina Alt wrote:Can we kill Blatant today and Obvious tomorrow? I really don't like their posting thus far. It feels like to me they're actively playing jestery. I don't know if it's indicative of CL or not, but I'd like to kill them tomorrow.
In other words: let's policy lynch two players because of their playstyle. Yes, they don't have the highest CL credit of all players and yes, we likely lose if neither of them is CL, but anyway, let's do it!

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:18 am
by Blatant Scum
In post 465, Kanna wrote:
In post 399, Blatant Scum wrote:
Disclaimer:
I will be off-meta in this game (I will, for example, be doing reads). Don't use information gathered in this game for reading my meta.
Haven't checked your meta yet, but is there a reason you're changing it + telling us you're changing it?
I am not telling it to you, I am telling it to people who would meta me later.
I don't want people from other games checking this game, finding out I was doing reads here and was town.
Then they would automatically assume that if I don't do any reads at all (which is this account meta), it means I am scum.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:22 am
by Farkran
In post 461, ObviousScum wrote:farkran would you say you're readable in your own view?
Maybe. Depends on game size and setup. I do believe i have a huge scumrange though, so i am proud to say i'm not easily readable. I would say that my strongest assets are anti-associatives and made up bullshit reads, because that's what town!me uses to scumhunt, so i focus on faking those. I think i might be weak at emotional display when rolling scum, but then again it depends on how i am pinged by people pushing me.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:26 am
by Blatant Scum
In post 462, Kanna wrote:I don't really know why I'm a UTR tbh but thanks @OS and BS; any reason other than sheeping?
You are "pushing the game forward" and "towny". Sheeping others make me ignore the paranoia I have about town leaders being a secret scum.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:27 am
by Blatant Scum
*displays emotions*

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:34 am
by shos
In post 478, shos wrote:Oh wow. Cool.
That's actually impressive.

Bingle just became town
I just want to say I am still deeply impressed

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:35 am
by shos
That was like
Scummy Worthy

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:46 am
by Farkran
In post 469, Bingle wrote:
In post 353, Bingle wrote:Both featured daychat, and he expressed no surprise over this in either.
This is a lie, and I'm disappointed that none of you caught it considering I linked literally the post before him doing so in the next post.
This is credit for town!bingle, but... i think that's the kind of lie no one would bother verifying. I mean, you build a case against shos over a simple, specific fact - why would people doublecheck that? For instance, i just assumed it was true because there was no reason to lie about it. Turned out there was a reason. If anything though, i think shos of all people might have recalled differently than what bingle claimed, but then again that was a long time ago so... it's NAI even for shos.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:11 am
by shos
It was two months ago, my first game onsite after the hiatus. You can be SURE that scum-me would throw it back in his face with a big I TOLD YOU SO if this was the case. But I'm not surprised that you don't let facts disturb you

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:15 am
by Farkran
In post 479, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 455, Not A Korina Alt wrote:Can we kill Blatant today and Obvious tomorrow? I really don't like their posting thus far. It feels like to me they're actively playing jestery. I don't know if it's indicative of CL or not, but I'd like to kill them tomorrow.
In other words: let's policy lynch two players because of their playstyle. Yes, they don't have the highest CL credit of all players and yes, we likely lose if neither of them is CL, but anyway, let's do it!
I don't like this defense though. It's an implied shade against korina for "not believing you have the highest CL credit". Where did you deduce that you do not have the highest CL credit from korina POV? He just said that you are acting jestery and he wants you dead. How does this imply you are not the highest CL credit for him?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:18 am
by Hectic
Obum, why is Kanna town and I specifically non-CL? How do you differentiate?

SH0S YOU'RE WEIRD
I need to meta check you again.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:20 am
by Hectic
Where you at, Poyzin? Why is Nolly (now Bla) "probably a cultist but not sure about cult leader"?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:22 am
by Blatant Scum
In post 455, Not A Korina Alt wrote:I don't know if it's indicative of CL or not

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:23 am
by Farkran
In post 487, shos wrote:It was two months ago, my first game onsite after the hiatus. You can be SURE that scum-me would throw it back in his face with a big I TOLD YOU SO if this was the case. But I'm not surprised that you don't let facts disturb you
I think any!shos would have forgot about his own specific reaction after two months, otherwise you would have answered from memory, not from checking your posts in that game. And if you forgot your reaction, you probably wouldn't check because you assume there's no reason for bingle to lie. This is valid for any!shos and more generally for everyone, i don't see a shos who checks if bingle lied about that - it's an easily verifiable lie, so i would think most people would just assume it's true, and work from there. Which, for instance, is exactly what you did - proceed to defend yourself instead of checking. But again, even town!shos would have done that.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:24 am
by Farkran
In post 491, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 455, Not A Korina Alt wrote:I don't know if it's indicative of CL or not
Yeah. Where does it say that it ISN'T indicative of CL?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:31 am
by shos
In post 492, Farkran wrote:
In post 487, shos wrote:It was two months ago, my first game onsite after the hiatus. You can be SURE that scum-me would throw it back in his face with a big I TOLD YOU SO if this was the case. But I'm not surprised that you don't let facts disturb you
I think any!shos would have forgot about his own specific reaction after two months, otherwise you would have answered from memory, not from checking your posts in that game. And if you forgot your reaction, you probably wouldn't check because you assume there's no reason for bingle to lie. This is valid for any!shos and more generally for everyone, i don't see a shos who checks if bingle lied about that - it's an easily verifiable lie, so i would think most people would just assume it's true, and work from there. Which, for instance, is exactly what you did - proceed to defend yourself instead of checking. But again, even town!shos would have done that.
Town shos DID answer from memory here. Which is why I didn't fish it up. Scum show would have checked it meticulously to find a single post where it may even remotely look as if I may be surprised and shove it up his butt all the way through the colon until it's out the mouth, pick it up and shove it back again.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:32 am
by shos
In post 494, shos wrote:
In post 492, Farkran wrote:
In post 487, shos wrote:It was two months ago, my first game onsite after the hiatus. You can be SURE that scum-me would throw it back in his face with a big I TOLD YOU SO if this was the case. But I'm not surprised that you don't let facts disturb you
I think any!shos would have forgot about his own specific reaction after two months, otherwise you would have answered from memory, not from checking your posts in that game. And if you forgot your reaction, you probably wouldn't check because you assume there's no reason for bingle to lie. This is valid for any!shos and more generally for everyone, i don't see a shos who checks if bingle lied about that - it's an easily verifiable lie, so i would think most people would just assume it's true, and work from there. Which, for instance, is exactly what you did - proceed to defend yourself instead of checking. But again, even town!shos would have done that.
Town shos DID answer from memory here. Which is why I didn't fish it up. Scum show would have checked it meticulously to find a single post where it may even remotely look as if I may be surprised and shove it up his butt all the way through the colon until it's out the mouth, pick it up and shove it back again.
Ill go even further and say that shosscum would have pushed a policy Lynch based on Lynch all liars there

I mean, this move was brilliant. Fucking amazing.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:40 am
by Hectic
Why are you so fond of that play, sh0s?

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:58 am
by shos
Because it surprised me and it's cool as fuck. I wouldn't have done it in years of gameplay.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:07 am
by Not A Korina Alt
In post 479, Blatant Scum wrote:
In post 455, Not A Korina Alt wrote:Can we kill Blatant today and Obvious tomorrow? I really don't like their posting thus far. It feels like to me they're actively playing jestery. I don't know if it's indicative of CL or not, but I'd like to kill them tomorrow.
In other words: let's policy lynch two players because of their playstyle. Yes, they don't have the highest CL credit of all players and yes, we likely lose if neither of them is CL, but anyway, let's do it!
No, this is not a policy because of your playstyle. You and Obvious are acting like jesters and actively making the game unreadable—not to mention, your play will
undoubtedly
draw the tracker/cop onto whichever one of you survives tonight. In what universe does a townie decide to do this? None. In what universe does scum decide to do this? Many. Therefore, you are scum, and you must die. I'm not arguing this any further.

We lynch Blatant today, and Obvious tomorrow.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:09 am
by Not A Korina Alt
Additionally Blatant, cult can only have a max of three. We'd go into a D3 MyLo with the Cop getting a free clear if they're not recruited, and if it's a tracker, it's eh.