Open 773: Masons and Mafia: RVS Awards (GAME OVER)

[popsofctown]

I've never said that yet as town.

So you debuted it about a player you have no completed games with? That's what's weird to me. Did you secret alt a game with me? You played 1 day phase as a third of a slot in a large, and that's it.

[Sujimichi]

Yes, I don't think your questions are very useful, you refused to offer fresh thoughts transparently upon entering the thread, you offered only one read and I don't vibe with that read.

To clarify, I did not refuse. I asked to defer, and there is a difference. Apologies you do not see the relevance in my questions, but it helps me understand thought processes better. As to your rationale for Homura, I find it weak especially given that she ended up leaving the game, and I do not expect you to "vibe" with my reads. I do find that you did not press for my thoughts following answers to my questions to be indicative that you did not really care for my answer to begin with, however.

Below is where I am at with some redactions with regard to associations, but there are several players I would like to see more from (such as woodchuck321).

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popsofctown is currently my strongest town read
Miss Lynch and Klick are town leans
Yshtola Rhul and Egix96 are a scum leans.
Auro and Alduskkel are currently scum leans of medium confidence.

[popsofctown]

I didn't pedit

[Auro]

Auro smells a bit off. Too much off-topic stuff or jokes.

how much content would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck content?

I was just thinking of this, lolol

[Auro]

To clarify, I did not refuse. I asked to defer, and there is a difference

I think they're the same - refusal to give fresh thoughts. Deferring means you can't offer fresh thoughts.

I think associatives-based play may not be the best strategy in this setup.

Why is Rhul a scumlean? Would you join an Egix wagon?

[popsofctown]

There is something unique about wishing *you* would be town? You're a competent townplayer and you've stated in the past you have way more fun as town while disguising it as scum, and I don't think we were town alongside before.

I don't remember stating that some place you'd see it.
If you think I'm good at town that helps and makes sense and you should lead with that instead of "me no like push"

We were both town in StarCraft 2 large theme.

[Sujimichi]

I think they're the same - refusal to give fresh thoughts. Deferring means you can't offer fresh thoughts.

We can agree to disagree, though I explained the rationale for deferring.

[Auro]

You're good at town and it would be *fun* to be town with you. Hence, I dislike that I think you're scum this game.

Yeah, it was perhaps some MD thread.

[Auro]

We can agree to disagree, though I explained the rationale for deferring.

Anything can be explained away, Suji.
You said I don't "care" for your thoughts - that's not something I'd expect to have to pull out from someone, that you had posted this far with only one stated read was independently scummy to me.

[Sujimichi]

Why is Rhul a scumlean? Would you join an Egix wagon?

I did not like her 380, as I believe there was enough information to make a determination of alignment in some manner. I also disagree with her read on, and rationale for, Alduskkel.

I would like for Egix96 to answer my question before I make a decision.

[Auro]

I did not like her 380, as I believe there was enough information to make a determination of alignment in some manner.

A determination of whose alignment?

[Miss Lane]

When given the choice between Auro and Albusdumbledore, which would you push?

What if you had to lynch one of them right now?

[popsofctown]

I think post 380 is meant to mean that the 3 people listed are town

[Auro]

If she goes for Aldehyde I'mma react badly.

[Sujimichi]

I think post 380 is meant to mean that the 3 people listed are town

Apologies if I misunderstood, however, I took the following as an indication that Yshtola Rhul could not determine alignment.

Whether they are warriors of light or sin eaters is sadly not up to me to decide, for I cannot tell the difference between them.

[Auro]

My purpose in this game is to find players with an exceptional quality aether. Whether they are warriors of light or sin eaters is sadly not up to me to decide, for I cannot tell the difference between them.

Pops, it seems obvious that Rhul means there's simply readable content from the three but isn't sure if alignment, she then says ML could "go either way" - I'm surprised you'd misinterpret this.

[Sujimichi]

When given the choice between Auro and Albusdumbledore, which would you push?

What if you had to lynch one of them right now?

Is this directed toward me, or to Auro?

[Auro]

Why would I push myself

[Sujimichi]

It does seem silly, however it was stated right after your post.

In that case, I would prefer Alduskkel at this point.

[Auro]

I did not like her 380, as I believe there was enough information to make a determination of alignment in some manner.

A determination of whose alignment?

I think you missed this

[popsofctown]

I think I'm starting like Sujimichi. I'm not sure whether I'm right on Auro and Alduskkel but reinventing the wheel on seeing them as aligned makes sense to me and I think I understand why she is reading Y'shtola different from me.

pedit:
Warriors of light or sin eaters means masons or VTs, is what I thought. Sin eaters are still some type of good guy, once they're done doing their thing there's less "sin" lying around, I figure.

[popsofctown]

An interpretation where Y'shtola has announced that she is not going to be sorting at any point this game seems too absurd to be tenable for either alignment, that kind of post would always need to be accompanied with a selfvote??

[Auro]

Makes sense, but 394 seems to break the "Mason or VT" idea.

[Auro]

Suji's case on Astroid feels problematic, I think she's reading too much into phrasing and isn't looking at his actions holistically

[popsofctown]

Maybe her read changed in the intervening 13 posts before 394?
Maybe I am WKing scum idk