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In post 434, bob3141 wrote:

In post 316, notscience wrote:I’m townreading the whole wagon, who do you think is scum on it?

If you were town reading the entire vot wagon. Then why so quick to jump onto dun?

If vot inst scum then why do you think dun if he was scum would have tried to jump on the back of the vot wagon. And why do you think scum wouldn't try to jump onto a wagon you feel is rather towny?

In post 473, notscience wrote:Someone give me the short version of why we’re voting gc I was leaning town there

In post 476, Green Crayons wrote:

In post 473, notscience wrote:Someone give me the short version of why we’re voting gc I was leaning town there

He doesn't like that I voice suspicions of players without some sort of counterbalancing of voicing my opinion about players who are town (even though elsewhere he recognizes that I do that too).

In post 459, Green Crayons wrote:

In post 455, stungun0404 wrote:Further discrediting can be found of bob in 177 that "Bob's posts look like scum trying to effort." Meanwhile, Bob is a pretty well townread player so far, so this definitely sticks out in terms of calling him scummy. It just feels like he is trying to fit bob there, conveniently, so maybe he can vote him later. He also discredited my earliest town read, farside, as well while reasoning that what I found

actually

made dunn look scummier in 228.

lol

"discrediting" is the loaded term you're using for me calling someone scummy

okay

In post 466, Green Crayons wrote:

In post 464, Green Crayons wrote:

In post 461, Green Crayons wrote:

In post 455, stungun0404 wrote:Further, it seems that technically

GC supports all of Votato, Dunnstral, and Battle Mage being lynched based off their content so far. The fact that they are somewhat supporting all three of the current majority wagons, and also maintaining suspicions of bob, farside, Mala, and others makes it seem like GC's intent is to pin others against each other while GC sits back and watches town get confused

. This does not feel like town trying to sort, it feels like scum aggressively trying to keep options open. Further, throughout his ISO it feels like he is basically willing to lynch anybody except himself, which obviously gives more of an unsettling scum narrative vibe than a town one.

This is a legitimately bad understanding of developing D1 reads.

Also

and I'll attribute your mischaracterization of my stance on votato to your single-mindedness to Present A Scum Case and be a good town

I don't support a votato lynch, and have never said I did.

ALSO also


lol Mala is a null as I've said before


Hot damn you really wanted to make a case. Congrats, I suppose.

In post 68, Green Crayons wrote:also obviously mala's suspicion of votato is bad, and her back-burner nonsense is silly, but lol nonetheless at farside and notscience

In post 316, notscience wrote:I’m townreading the whole wagon, who do you think is scum on it?

In post 317, Green Crayons wrote:mala or bob, with me leaning towards bob

In post 68, Green Crayons wrote:also obviously mala's suspicion of votato is bad, and her back-burner nonsense is silly, but lol nonetheless at farside and notscience

In post 117, Green Crayons wrote:

In post 115, farside22 wrote:I have higher expectation for Mala.

That she has a bad reason for suspecting votato/HK can go either way in terms of Mala’s alignment.

The fact that her suspicion is bad is because she isn’t familiar with SW video games means her bad suspicion isn’t alignment indicative.

You “expecting more” of Malta here means you “expected Mala to get the SW reference so she wouldn’t have had the bad suspicion.”

Unless if you think she’s lying about missing the SW reference.

In post 317, Green Crayons wrote:mala or bob, with me leaning towards bob

In post 319, Green Crayons wrote:She's more or less null for me at the moment, and so she's a contender.

In post 481, notscience wrote:Stun I’m like 73% sure everything you listed is just how most oldies play and not really as alignment indicative as you think

In post 469, Green Crayons wrote:

In post 460, Green Crayons wrote:

In post 455, stungun0404 wrote:Also took a weird stance on BM that his vote on Votato "looked made up" in 421, which does not exactly seem like the best reason to vote BM if you ask me. Also, I do not know if it is a natural town instinct to come to a conclusion that a vote "is made up", just seems like a forced scum conclusion, but maybe I am wrong there.

Maybe if you look harder, you'll see I've been suspecting Battle Mage for a while.

Maybe if you look *even harder*, you'll see why.

And lol @ my justification for voting BM apparently went completely over your head in your pursuit to vote me.

I think this is important, btw.

BM switched to votato. His only reason for suspecting votato as scum is because of stun's meta analysis of votato.

The problem is that stun's meta analysis--by stun's own explanation!--is that it doesn't show that votato is scum. It just shows that he is not town.


And so


drum roll, please

In post 422, Green Crayons wrote:

In post 421, Green Crayons wrote:His

justification for his

vote on votato looks made up.

Fixed.

In post 471, Green Crayons wrote:

In post 469, Green Crayons wrote:The problem is that stun's meta analysis--by stun's own explanation!--is that it doesn't show that votato is scum. It just shows that

it doesn't clear him as town

he is not town

.

lol fixed again

In post 484, stungun0404 wrote:I don't think that's true... I'm fairly convinced GC is scum and on D1 when I get that feeling it usually is right, although there are expections.

In post 484, stungun0404 wrote:

In post 481, notscience wrote:Stun I’m like 73% sure everything you listed is just how most oldies play and not really as alignment indicative as you think

I don't think that's true... I'm fairly convinced GC is scum and on D1 when I get that feeling it usually is right, although there are expections.

Why do you trust GC?

In post 436, bob3141 wrote:I remember the first time I played with you where getting a read on you was like trying to get blood out of stone.

In post 438, farside22 wrote:

In post 436, bob3141 wrote:I remember the first time I played with you where getting a read on you was like trying to get blood out of stone.

What was his alignment?

In post 436, bob3141 wrote:I remember the first time I played with you where getting a read on you was like trying to get blood out of stone.

In post 493, Malakittens wrote:

In post 436, bob3141 wrote:I remember the first time I played with you where getting a read on you was like trying to get blood out of stone.

I have never seen something more accurate.

In post 439, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 437, stungun0404 wrote:I have some ideas and a possible lead on one particular player who I feel is likely to flip scum, but I don't currently want to distract away from both the Dunnstral push and the Geriantm push, because I

really

want to see more from both of them. So, Dunnstral and geriantm, if either of you are town please help me by eliminating yourself as a distraction, and showing pro-town, gamesolving intent.

I think people should be less focused on me, personally