In post 461, Deimos27 wrote:Battle Mage gives me like 16 tonnes of resonance every time he posts. He's active and engaged, he's scumhunting, he's tonally squeaky clean.
I don't have substantial logical reason for why he is town, but this is one of the stronger gutreads I've had in my mafia career.
Got it, but be careful not to ride gutreads too far! They can be your best friend and worst enemy
lets be honest, everything is a gutread. sometimes we just pretend we have better reasoning.
This is true, which is why aside from townblocing people for shorter amounts of time, it's good to be able to change your reads. Hence deimos should not ride this very strong townread the rest of the game without examination
do you think deimos was doing that? what are you trying to get at here?
Nah, I agree that BM's posting resonates with me quite well and touches all the points I would want to touch, I am just worried about setting them as town for that - I think scum could do the same thing. I don't want Deimos to fall into the trap of hearing resonant posting and townreading for the whole game because of it. Stuff like that is how good scum easily win games.
if we can make it through Day 1 without outting the hider, would it be sensible for everyone to claim a name they would target if they were the hider? this way if the hider dies without their target dying, we will likely have 1 confirmed scum? probably most helpful if we try and get a reasonable diverse spread of names too.
Counter-point
And if there is a vig? And the hider hides behind them then they are dead as well. Ala Clint Eastwood style. So then you create a false positive and in the end lynching a town PR in the bigger picture.
In post 436, Worcestershire wrote:Regarding my participation in the game, I have nothing relevant to share and I do not intend to invent anything to create the false impression of activity.
So you have no thoughts on the game.
Awesome. Great job. Happy with this thus far.
I have said the same thing, basically verbatim, as Worcestershire. Also this shade buy Midari just comes off as really trying to act townie, but still scummy.
In post 431, votato wrote:whoops. If im not invested im probably town
I hate how people can use this as a tell.
It's like oh I'm not scum I'm just going to fuck off for a bit. Ironically you can manipulate this and flip it so you just fly under the radar.
In post 422, votato wrote:well my case rests primarily on midari being scum. but if that isnt enough reason for you to vote someone (FoS on you again), midari's tone/style doesnt match town!midari. more to come.
How many games have you seen me in from the start in? Most times I've replaced into games where I have to figure out the motivation from the slot before me. It's quite aggravating sometimes just for how people can muck up a slot.
This is fantastic, Midari contradicts herself in the same post!
In post 436, Worcestershire wrote:Regarding my participation in the game, I have nothing relevant to share and I do not intend to invent anything to create the false impression of activity.
So you have no thoughts on the game.
Awesome. Great job. Happy with this thus far.
The fact that we can't look past a little slip of not seeing something and me moving because "heat" I find a bit disturbing as I'm not sure how many games you have been apart of where "oh that was a hammer" has happened in games you have been in. I've been around long enough to have it happen more times then I want to admit. Call it what you want. It's mildly infuriating.
I don't understand what superbowl9 is getting at roughly with the town block and what have you and what not l. Maybe I'm a bit delusional but I would expect everyone's reads to change at some point in this game otherwise this is going to get ugly quickly.
Heavy townping from this, don't think noobish scum with heavy cognitive load would see big backlash from a clear mistake and say "Why cant we move past this little slip??" Scum would try to justify more
More or less. I agree with his thought process a bunch and share some of his reads, but I have Worchestire and pi/nash null and you townlean, also slight scum on word.
More or less. I agree with his thought process a bunch and share some of his reads, but I have Worchestire and pi/nash null and you townlean, also slight scum on word.
Apologies if you have already, but walk me through your Midari town lean?
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:06 pm
by votato
im pretty sure midari is an alt. could still be new to the site though
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:07 pm
by Doctor Drew
In post 482, votato wrote:im pretty sure midari is an alt. could still be new to the site though
In post 482, votato wrote:im pretty sure midari is an alt. could still be new to the site though
Everyone is a Hectic or A50 alt.
pls dont out my main drew. god dammit
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:08 pm
by superbowl9
Well the townping I just got sort of pushed it over the edge into town lean, but I was quite in agreement with Deimos in 284 that she gives out noobtown vibes.
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:08 pm
by superbowl9
Drew are you a Hectic alt? The game rests on this
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:09 pm
by superbowl9
Also would like to claim my fame and glory for predicting we would not have a lynch by pg 20
if we can make it through Day 1 without outting the hider, would it be sensible for everyone to claim a name they would target if they were the hider? this way if the hider dies without their target dying, we will likely have 1 confirmed scum? probably most helpful if we try and get a reasonable diverse spread of names too.
Counter-point
And if there is a vig? And the hider hides behind them then they are dead as well. Ala Clint Eastwood style. So then you create a false positive and in the end lynching a town PR in the bigger picture.
Tracker seems like the much better/more obvious selection in this setup no?
But this is true, I missed that hider going behind vig would kill them
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:14 pm
by Doctor Drew
In post 485, superbowl9 wrote:Well the townping I just got sort of pushed it over the edge into town lean, but I was quite in agreement with Deimos in 284 that she gives out noobtown vibes.
I fear people are going to use the 'noob' card as an excuse to put the blinders on to scummy behavior.
Hectic is my creation, brought him into the world to sow confusion and awesomeness.
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:25 pm
by superbowl9
In post 489, Doctor Drew wrote:I fear people are going to use the 'noob' card as an excuse to put the blinders on to scummy behavior.
This can certainly happen, which is why sometimes it's good to policy lynch VIs/lurkers. As such I keep these types of slots open as compromise lynches or if there are no other scum leads to pursue, unless I'm really townreading them. I don't think Midari is our best option day 1 tho
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:16 pm
by word321
I beg tp differ
I want to lynch midari at this point tbh VOTE: Midari Ikishima
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:17 pm
by word321
but first I still want to hear from marashu
and while we r at it, brass herald should give a take after coming back from vla
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:18 pm
by word321
i dnt like the apologies and transition to worc after the L-1 thing
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:20 pm
by word321
do u think newbtowns take the initiative on the hunt on the second most suspicious person after a mistake of that caliber, not taken it on that magnitude previously on the game?
In post 489, Doctor Drew wrote:I fear people are going to use the 'noob' card as an excuse to put the blinders on to scummy behavior.
This can certainly happen, which is why sometimes it's good to policy lynch VIs/lurkers. As such I keep these types of slots open as compromise lynches or if there are no other scum leads to pursue, unless I'm really townreading them. I don't think Midari is our best option day 1 tho
Who's talking policy lynch on lurkers, I don't know why you brought that up?
I am talking making excuses for scummy behavior.
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:28 pm
by votato
In post 491, word321 wrote:I beg tp differ
I want to lynch midari at this point tbh VOTE: Midari Ikishima
why?
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:28 pm
by word321
In post 0, JacksonVirgo wrote:Player List
piisirattional
Battle Mage
Marashu
Deimos27
votato
ceejayvinoya
brassherald
superbowl9
Midari Ikishima
Worcestershire
word321
Doctor Drew
Tuxedo Mask
and about the hider thing, a quick way to do it is the hider aiming for the player next to him on the player list; that way, everyone has a possibility of being hid upon, assuming uniform distribution (the odd of a hider being behind u given u r not the tracker is 1/12)