Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:59 pm
then the wiki is wrong
Has to be a large for any kind of SK.In post 474, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:I just checked the wiki and it says that ninja is only for serial killer for a normal game?
this explanation seems pretty forcedIn post 480, superbowl9 wrote:I'll buy the bugspray claim, seems like osuka is our best option - he will give us good information at the very least
VOTE: osuka
Figured it would help you guys develop decent reads. Also saves me a lot of trouble.In post 460, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:Psyche, do you have a reason to do that ?
We should be trying to lynch scum, not town whose playstyles we don't like. Period.In post 452, superbowl9 wrote:There are great reasons to policy elim - or weight negatively - poor yet NAI play.In post 424, Psyche wrote:the more i think about it, the more it seems that the reason i haven't felt much affinity for the bugspray wagon is that i've seen so many townies get lynched for not being productive, coherent players. it's not really an alignment-indicative behavior on its own (scum have plenty of interest in being productive/coherent), but for some reason people on mafiascum.net just eat that shit up. everywhere i look in fact i just see half-assed justifications for voting them like what looker's decided is enough to justify a hammer.
maybe when i look closely at bugspray i'll see something stronger than that weaksauce but so far it's just a void why is it just a void
If a player is lurking, lazy, and just not helpful to town, it can be a good idea to get rid of them earlier in the game so that they don't cause distractions and waste time and energy later on during the game.
Another separate discussion is punishing players for bad play - if poor play isn't viewed as elimable your site gets more and more poor play in its games, overall reducing town EV and the quality of games.
There are exceptions to the rule and obviously you don't want to eliminate town if possible, but to say that poor play is NAI and should thus not be weighted in an evaluation of whether to elim is just incorrect. To say that a site is worse for holding people to a higher standard of play is also not a great opinion.
Forced how? How would this be a scumslip?In post 483, bugspray wrote:this explanation seems pretty forcedIn post 480, superbowl9 wrote:I'll buy the bugspray claim, seems like osuka is our best option - he will give us good information at the very least
VOTE: osuka
scumslip?
why?In post 478, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:VOTE: Osuka
If psyche is town then osuak is scum,
I would also be good with truth.
Obviously, did I say we should try to elim town in my post? I said there's good reason to weight anti-town behavior or policy elim itIn post 486, Psyche wrote:We should be trying to lynch scum, not town whose playstyles we don't like. Period.
that's an oddly specific claim to make. i do buy ninja roleblocker but i see more scum rb slots than i do see town rbsIn post 491, Psyche wrote:People's reactions to bugspray's claim doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Being a ninja roleblocker doesn't exactly clear you, even if you crumb it. How did the claim affect your actual reads?
Not at all true it's definitely more nuancedIn post 490, Psyche wrote:Eliminating people for reasons besides being scummy is more or less the same thing
The crumb and as osuka said odd specificity helped, obviously it's not a 100% clear but I'm not really too keen on elimming a claimed PR D1 without exploring any other options.In post 491, Psyche wrote:People's reactions to bugspray's claim doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Being a ninja roleblocker doesn't exactly clear you, even if you crumb it. How did the claim affect your actual reads?
Are you saying 478 was a reaction test?? Because I highly doubt thatIn post 495, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:I want to see how bugspray would react to not being at hammer phase.
He just followed my vote along which seems scummy
why do you highly doubt thatIn post 497, superbowl9 wrote:Are you saying 478 was a reaction test?? Because I highly doubt thatIn post 495, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:I want to see how bugspray would react to not being at hammer phase.
He just followed my vote along which seems scummy