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Mini Normal 1919

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Player List:

1. SergTacos,
   Vanilla Townie
   , killed night 2
   
2. Klazam,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
3. Trivium,
   Vanilla Townie
   , lynched day 2
   
4. Umlaut
   replaced Boonskiies
   ,
   Town Odd-Night Cop
   , lynched day 4
   
5. TwoFace,
   Vanilla Townie
   , killed night 4
   
6. Empiricus,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
7. Mulch,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
8. Carcalilly,
   Mafia Odd-Night Roleblocker
   , killed night 1
   
9. Tchill13,
   Mafia Goon
   , lynched day 1
   
10. Fykus,
    Mafia Goon
    , lynched day 5
    
11. Branson,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 3
    
12. Vedith
    replaced shuffleplay
    ,
    Town Vigilante
    , killed night 1
    
13. Dunkerdoodles,
    Town Gunsmith
    , killed night 3

This was the only instance I found in the Normal Setups where a Town Gunsmith was in the same setup as a Town Modified Regular Cop. Thoughts?

Setup and PR spec is really not my domain since I don't feel I have enough games under my belt

I will say that IV's hesitation and self-doubt feels genuine and towny, and that it's tough for me to find a scummy motivation to not just let the chaos of a last second flash wagon happen, as opposed to trying to clumsily cc

I've got about an hour or so drive and I'll think about it then and be back before deadline, but right now I'm leaning towards Ydarsse

That's pretty townsided, Inin, but that's a 3 mafia setup anyway, so it's a little more reasonable to have both together.

In post 431, midwaybear wrote:

In post 426, innocentvillager wrote:i hope im doing the right thing

i am an investigative role

This is low key scummy because you aren’t specifying what role. I still will vote ydrasse though
VOTE: Ydrasse

Reads like scum positioning to join the wagon (whether ydrasse is scum or not)

In post 457, Blair wrote:

In post 452, innocentvillager wrote:I am only as confident as the information I am getting from you guys

I don't like this.

Retracting intent.

He's counter-claiming without telling us his role

or

taking any responsibility for the outcome.

I'd rather launch Dunnstral today and let the PR claims self-sort.

I agree with this except replace Dunn with Midway

Oh fine.

VOTE: Midway

In post 479, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Reads like scum positioning to join the wagon (whether ydrasse is scum or not)

I literally started her wagon and only unvoted/revoted to vote Dunn and revote her...

In post 476, innocentvillager wrote:

Mini Normal 1919

Moderator:

ThinkBig

Current Update:

Game Over [Awaiting Archiving]

Player List:

1. SergTacos,
   Vanilla Townie
   , killed night 2
   
2. Klazam,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
3. Trivium,
   Vanilla Townie
   , lynched day 2
   
4. Umlaut
   replaced Boonskiies
   ,
   Town Odd-Night Cop
   , lynched day 4
   
5. TwoFace,
   Vanilla Townie
   , killed night 4
   
6. Empiricus,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
7. Mulch,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
8. Carcalilly,
   Mafia Odd-Night Roleblocker
   , killed night 1
   
9. Tchill13,
   Mafia Goon
   , lynched day 1
   
10. Fykus,
    Mafia Goon
    , lynched day 5
    
11. Branson,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 3
    
12. Vedith
    replaced shuffleplay
    ,
    Town Vigilante
    , killed night 1
    
13. Dunkerdoodles,
    Town Gunsmith
    , killed night 3

This was the only instance I found in the Normal Setups where a Town Gunsmith was in the same setup as a Town Modified Regular Cop. Thoughts?

Doesn't a gunsmith imply a Cop, (or possibly Vig) in a normal setup? Because part of the gimmick is that you can get false guilties.

How many games did you see with a town gunsmith without a cop? I'm going to have a look.

UNVOTE: for now.

Research complete. Most mini normals with town gunsmith have no cop.

VOTE: Ydrasse

Yeah just from doing a control F on the completed mini normal setups, I think it was like

1/21 for Town Gunsmith
0/8 for Town Neapolitan
0/44 for Town Cop

to be paired with some Town Modified Regular Cop

I like those odds

I don't understand your workings but I agree with your answer.

like I did a ctrl f on each of those roles "Town Gunsmith", "Town Neapolitan", "Town Cop"

Saw the number of results for each of them (21, 8, 44)

And clicked through the instances one by one to see if there was also a Town Modified Regular Cop in the setup.

I only found that one instance I quoted above with the Town Gunsmith.

i kinda think partner is in [Mafi, Nos, bear, r2r] as I'm townreading the others

Mafi I think is the least likely to be scum of these 4

ah I think I misunderstood post 476 then - I thought you had claimed gunsmith, which is why I didn't understand why you'd be searching for a cop + a limited cop.

oh lol no I didn't claim Gunsmith but I certainly could be one

if Ydrasse flips scum, I'm happy to consider you conftown irrespective of your claim, given you created and drove the wagon on her and counter-claimed her PR claim.

If you're both scum, you're a fking terrible partner

Nosferatu is my top pick, maybe still Dunn? would need to re-read latter part of today.

can we get a hammer in here?

bruh I started the ydrasse wagon
gimme my towncred

In post 491, Battle Mage wrote:If you're both scum, you're a fking terrible partner

LMAO

can you imagine a world Ydrasse and I are scum, I survive to LYLO and don't get hammered

In post 466, Ydrasse wrote:hi i’m awake

is there a reason that inno/i couldn’t exist together except for setup stuff? rber comes to mind

i’m not gonna ask what inno is exactly bc id rather not but s:

yeah Ydrasse has just given up, she's "awake" but not here with 2 hours left to go and this was the only thing she said in the past 2-3 hours

In post 494, innocentvillager wrote:

In post 491, Battle Mage wrote:If you're both scum, you're a fking terrible partner

LMAO

can you imagine a world Ydrasse and I are scum, I survive to LYLO and don't get hammered

even you winning single-handedly wouldn't compensate for ruthlessly and unnecessarily annihilating your newbie partner on Day 1.

OK put some thought into it, and have 3 thoughts

1. I trust IV and the way he cc'ed
2. I'm trusting of what other people are saying about setup stuff since quite a few people are coming to similar conclusions
3. I think trying to rush to an elim of anyone else at this stage of the day would be bad for town

So all of these lead me to VOTE: Ydrasse

In post 476, innocentvillager wrote:

Mini Normal 1919

Moderator:

ThinkBig

Current Update:

Game Over [Awaiting Archiving]

Player List:

1. SergTacos,
   Vanilla Townie
   , killed night 2
   
2. Klazam,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
3. Trivium,
   Vanilla Townie
   , lynched day 2
   
4. Umlaut
   replaced Boonskiies
   ,
   Town Odd-Night Cop
   , lynched day 4
   
5. TwoFace,
   Vanilla Townie
   , killed night 4
   
6. Empiricus,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
7. Mulch,
   Vanilla Townie
   , survived
   
8. Carcalilly,
   Mafia Odd-Night Roleblocker
   , killed night 1
   
9. Tchill13,
   Mafia Goon
   , lynched day 1
   
10. Fykus,
    Mafia Goon
    , lynched day 5
    
11. Branson,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 3
    
12. Vedith
    replaced shuffleplay
    ,
    Town Vigilante
    , killed night 1
    
13. Dunkerdoodles,
    Town Gunsmith
    , killed night 3

This was the only instance I found in the Normal Setups where a Town Gunsmith was in the same setup as a Town Modified Regular Cop. Thoughts?

It's interesting that the Mod of this game was the Cop in that game.

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