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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:17 am
by Umlaut
Vote Count 1.12
Ydrasse
(5): , , , ,
Dunnstral
(2): ,
Blair
(1):
Mafia Goon
(1):
midwaybear
(1):

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to launch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2020-08-04 23:30:00)

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:23 am
by innocentvillager

Moderator:
ThinkBig
Current Update:
Game Over [Awaiting Archiving]

Player List:
  1. SergTacos,
    Vanilla Townie
    , killed night 2
  2. Klazam,
    Vanilla Townie
    , survived
  3. Trivium,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 2
  4. Umlaut
    replaced Boonskiies
    ,
    Town Odd-Night Cop
    , lynched day 4
  5. TwoFace,
    Vanilla Townie
    , killed night 4
  6. Empiricus,
    Vanilla Townie
    , survived
  7. Mulch,
    Vanilla Townie
    , survived
  8. Carcalilly,
    Mafia Odd-Night Roleblocker
    , killed night 1
  9. Tchill13,
    Mafia Goon
    , lynched day 1
  10. Fykus,
    Mafia Goon
    , lynched day 5
  11. Branson,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 3
  12. Vedith
    replaced shuffleplay
    ,
    Town Vigilante
    , killed night 1
  13. Dunkerdoodles,
    Town Gunsmith
    , killed night 3
This was the only instance I found in the Normal Setups where a Town Gunsmith was in the same setup as a Town Modified Regular Cop. Thoughts?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:27 am
by ready2rock
Setup and PR spec is really not my domain since I don't feel I have enough games under my belt

I will say that IV's hesitation and self-doubt feels genuine and towny, and that it's tough for me to find a scummy motivation to not just let the chaos of a last second flash wagon happen, as opposed to trying to clumsily cc

I've got about an hour or so drive and I'll think about it then and be back before deadline, but right now I'm leaning towards Ydarsse

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:43 am
by Mafia Goon
That's pretty townsided, Inin, but that's a 3 mafia setup anyway, so it's a little more reasonable to have both together.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:44 am
by CantHateAPuppy
In post 431, midwaybear wrote:
In post 426, innocentvillager wrote:i hope im doing the right thing

i am an investigative role
This is low key scummy because you aren’t specifying what role. I still will vote ydrasse though
VOTE: Ydrasse
Reads like scum positioning to join the wagon (whether ydrasse is scum or not)

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:45 am
by CantHateAPuppy
In post 457, Blair wrote:
In post 452, innocentvillager wrote:I am only as confident as the information I am getting from you guys
I don't like this.

Retracting intent.


He's counter-claiming without telling us his role
or
taking any responsibility for the outcome.

I'd rather launch Dunnstral today and let the PR claims self-sort.
I agree with this except replace Dunn with Midway

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:49 am
by Blair
Oh fine.

VOTE: Midway

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:57 am
by midwaybear
In post 479, CantHateAPuppy wrote:Reads like scum positioning to join the wagon (whether ydrasse is scum or not)
I literally started her wagon and only unvoted/revoted to vote Dunn and revote her...

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:32 am
by Battle Mage
In post 476, innocentvillager wrote:

Moderator:
ThinkBig
Current Update:
Game Over [Awaiting Archiving]

Player List:
  1. SergTacos,
    Vanilla Townie
    , killed night 2
  2. Klazam,
    Vanilla Townie
    , survived
  3. Trivium,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 2
  4. Umlaut
    replaced Boonskiies
    ,
    Town Odd-Night Cop
    , lynched day 4
  5. TwoFace,
    Vanilla Townie
    , killed night 4
  6. Empiricus,
    Vanilla Townie
    , survived
  7. Mulch,
    Vanilla Townie
    , survived
  8. Carcalilly,
    Mafia Odd-Night Roleblocker
    , killed night 1
  9. Tchill13,
    Mafia Goon
    , lynched day 1
  10. Fykus,
    Mafia Goon
    , lynched day 5
  11. Branson,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 3
  12. Vedith
    replaced shuffleplay
    ,
    Town Vigilante
    , killed night 1
  13. Dunkerdoodles,
    Town Gunsmith
    , killed night 3
This was the only instance I found in the Normal Setups where a Town Gunsmith was in the same setup as a Town Modified Regular Cop. Thoughts?
Doesn't a gunsmith imply a Cop, (or possibly Vig) in a normal setup? Because part of the gimmick is that you can get false guilties.

How many games did you see with a town gunsmith without a cop? I'm going to have a look.

UNVOTE: for now.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:38 am
by Battle Mage
Research complete. Most mini normals with town gunsmith have no cop.

VOTE: Ydrasse

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:43 am
by innocentvillager
Yeah just from doing a control F on the completed mini normal setups, I think it was like

1/21 for Town Gunsmith
0/8 for Town Neapolitan
0/44 for Town Cop

to be paired with some Town Modified Regular Cop

I like those odds

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:45 am
by Battle Mage
I don't understand your workings but I agree with your answer.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:47 am
by innocentvillager
like I did a ctrl f on each of those roles "Town Gunsmith", "Town Neapolitan", "Town Cop"

Saw the number of results for each of them (21, 8, 44)

And clicked through the instances one by one to see if there was also a Town Modified Regular Cop in the setup.

I only found that one instance I quoted above with the Town Gunsmith.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:50 am
by innocentvillager
i kinda think partner is in [Mafi, Nos, bear, r2r] as I'm townreading the others

Mafi I think is the least likely to be scum of these 4

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:51 am
by Battle Mage
ah I think I misunderstood post 476 then - I thought you had claimed gunsmith, which is why I didn't understand why you'd be searching for a cop + a limited cop.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:53 am
by innocentvillager
oh lol no I didn't claim Gunsmith but I certainly could be one

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:55 am
by Battle Mage
if Ydrasse flips scum, I'm happy to consider you conftown irrespective of your claim, given you created and drove the wagon on her and counter-claimed her PR claim.

If you're both scum, you're a fking terrible partner :lol:

Nosferatu is my top pick, maybe still Dunn? would need to re-read latter part of today.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:56 am
by Battle Mage
can we get a hammer in here?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:57 am
by midwaybear
bruh I started the ydrasse wagon
gimme my towncred :D

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:58 am
by innocentvillager
In post 491, Battle Mage wrote:If you're both scum, you're a fking terrible partner
LMAO

can you imagine a world Ydrasse and I are scum, I survive to LYLO and don't get hammered

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:00 am
by innocentvillager
In post 466, Ydrasse wrote:hi i’m awake

is there a reason that inno/i couldn’t exist together except for setup stuff? rber comes to mind

i’m not gonna ask what inno is exactly bc id rather not but s:
yeah Ydrasse has just given up, she's "awake" but not here with 2 hours left to go and this was the only thing she said in the past 2-3 hours

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:02 am
by Battle Mage
In post 494, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 491, Battle Mage wrote:If you're both scum, you're a fking terrible partner
LMAO

can you imagine a world Ydrasse and I are scum, I survive to LYLO and don't get hammered
even you winning single-handedly wouldn't compensate for ruthlessly and unnecessarily annihilating your newbie partner on Day 1. :lol:

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:12 am
by ready2rock
OK put some thought into it, and have 3 thoughts

1. I trust IV and the way he cc'ed
2. I'm trusting of what other people are saying about setup stuff since quite a few people are coming to similar conclusions
3. I think trying to rush to an elim of anyone else at this stage of the day would be
really
bad for town

So all of these lead me to VOTE: Ydrasse

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:14 am
by Battle Mage
In post 476, innocentvillager wrote:

Moderator:
ThinkBig
Current Update:
Game Over [Awaiting Archiving]

Player List:
  1. SergTacos,
    Vanilla Townie
    , killed night 2
  2. Klazam,
    Vanilla Townie
    , survived
  3. Trivium,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 2
  4. Umlaut
    replaced Boonskiies
    ,
    Town Odd-Night Cop
    , lynched day 4
  5. TwoFace,
    Vanilla Townie
    , killed night 4
  6. Empiricus,
    Vanilla Townie
    , survived
  7. Mulch,
    Vanilla Townie
    , survived
  8. Carcalilly,
    Mafia Odd-Night Roleblocker
    , killed night 1
  9. Tchill13,
    Mafia Goon
    , lynched day 1
  10. Fykus,
    Mafia Goon
    , lynched day 5
  11. Branson,
    Vanilla Townie
    , lynched day 3
  12. Vedith
    replaced shuffleplay
    ,
    Town Vigilante
    , killed night 1
  13. Dunkerdoodles,
    Town Gunsmith
    , killed night 3
This was the only instance I found in the Normal Setups where a Town Gunsmith was in the same setup as a Town Modified Regular Cop. Thoughts?
It's interesting that the Mod of this game was the Cop in that game.

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:15 am
by Battle Mage
stop...