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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:02 pm
by shellyc
this does shit

you're dead, mod lock thread

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:02 pm
by unwnd
My original feelings were never resolved shelly so yes I would say I dislike Nopoint and I look forward to hearing what they have to say in light of all this

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:03 pm
by shellyc
nopoint seems lurky which is what happened in 2174

I would like to hear from johnny on nopoint with johnny being nopoints scumpartner in that game

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:03 pm
by unwnd
Shelly I'm not new, why do you think I would fall for that

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:03 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 452, shellyc wrote:
In post 449, unwnd wrote:I think you're overreacting to light pressure and you may be a type of player who wants to lecture but not vice-versa lol
i do very bad against pressure as either alignment.

I'm pretty sure andres can back that up.

anyways can you read my *bullet points* and respond if you like people pushing that way
I’ll say this - I have seen shellyc reveal themselves as Scum under pressure, but not to the point where I thought it was completely obvious (in that newbie game we played). I think you enjoy directing the game, without having to endure too much suspicion. That’s where you probably do best (as either alignment). The one time we played as Town both of us you left the game completely under some pressure. I don’t know if that was directly attributable to the pressure or you were just bored - you would have to clarify.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:04 pm
by shellyc
i think the way you say "dislike" instead of scumreading is a bit hedgy though

these minor things

throughout this game i'd say you've been quite hedgy

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:05 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
In post 478, unwnd wrote:Shelly I'm not new, why do you think I would fall for that
I almost did :lol:

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:05 pm
by unwnd
We look at the thread different and the way they perceive players. Your mindset seems to veer towards guilty until proven innocent, while I often just want to townread most people and PoE scum after doing so

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:06 pm
by shellyc
like unwnd does stuff - dislike/slight SR on nopoint, thinking FL is "anti-town"

there's a lack of trying to make those scumreads into real pushes

unwnd says "pressure" but I don't buy it and it sounds sorta reverse-pushing

so uh. unwnd whats your singular strongest SR here?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:06 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
In post 477, shellyc wrote:nopoint seems lurky which is what happened in 2174

I would like to hear from johnny on nopoint with johnny being nopoints scumpartner in that game
Uh they're a good scum player. Not too controlling, more capable of disappearing into the town than me. Not unlike here honestly

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:07 pm
by shellyc
idk i can see myself falling for my "scumread because of clashing play" fallacy

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:07 pm
by shellyc
johnny give me a shotgun d1 solve right here, I wanna hear some juicy stuff from you instead of mild takes

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:08 pm
by unwnd
I don't know shelly, it seems like the more we get into this the more you are aping on me for playstyle difference and nothing else, I don't necessarily feel convicted of any crime. Did you disagree with what I said about Nopoint in the first place? You just seemed to take our interaction at face-value

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:12 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Main 3 (Nopoint notmaf Hank) with flavor and you as distraction or potential scum if i'm wrong about one in main 3

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:33 pm
by Flavor Leaf
shame no mod lock even though dayvig cant be in normals.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:35 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
I don't keep up on what can and can't be in normals. I like surprises

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:47 pm
by Titus
In post 489, Flavor Leaf wrote:shame no mod lock even though dayvig cant be in normals.
Actually, I don't see why not. Vig and day are both permitted.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:52 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 488, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Main 3 (Nopoint notmaf Hank) with flavor and you as distraction or potential scum if i'm wrong about one in main 3
I really don’t see this solve so I’m very intrigued by it. You have a completely null slot in Hank, Not_Mafia (who I will grant you could be Scum, very difficult to tell for me this early), and nopoint? Huh.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:54 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 492, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 488, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Main 3 (Nopoint notmaf Hank) with flavor and you as distraction or potential scum if i'm wrong about one in main 3
I really don’t see this solve so I’m very intrigued by it. You have a completely null slot in Hank, Not_Mafia (who I will grant you could be Scum, very difficult to tell for me this early), and nopoint? Huh.
So you basically think that the Scum have for the most part very little active presence and are letting the Town just cannibalize themselves, yeah?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:52 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Is flavor scum here?

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:19 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 491, Titus wrote:
In post 489, Flavor Leaf wrote:shame no mod lock even though dayvig cant be in normals.
Actually, I don't see why not. Vig and day are both permitted.
Hmm, didn't know Day was permitted.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:05 pm
by geraintm
In post 387, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 378, geraintm wrote:
In post 372, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 334, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, Gera saying we wasted time when absolutely nobody was here is scummy.

I wish we had an active enough game where that was wasting time.
+1

It looks like trying to find an excuse to jump on your wagon if you ask me.
You've not played with me before? I will not be jumping onto any wagons.
And as people are still discussing them, I stand by my statement that a bunch of days have been wasted.
Maybe you won’t jump on any wagons, but I still expect you to highlight stuff you see. You put the spotlight on two Scum players last time we played on D1 and were executed for it - I went back and checked. So don’t try and pretend that you can’t make any contributions because that’s not true.
I appreciate your confidence in my ability, it is stronger than my own. I just came off a game where town won and I don't think I voted for any scum at any point.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:06 pm
by geraintm
In post 399, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Why would scum say that just there? I'm curious. (I also haven't read since like page 10)
well, you've read enough to ask others their thoughts on numerous occasions....

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:11 pm
by geraintm
and I come to the end of a night's worth of posts, I don't think ther ewas any actual votes and then shelly playing silly buggers.

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:21 pm
by shellyc
geraint, are you a very vote-oriented player?

I don't completely disagree with what you said re: nopoint. I dislike the push on dunn and still slightly townlean dunn. There is still a lack of interaction/strong pushing between nopoint-unwnd though. Why are you unwilling to push nopoint hard given thread generally has support on scum!nopoint?