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In post 444, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If I were a betting person my guess would be 4 out of 5 are town.

I’m just curious, who in the townbloc do you think is most likely to be scum?

In post 465, Momrangal wrote:We have 6 days? Why are we compromising?

We have a few popular wagons, it’s time for people to make meaningful decisions. There’s no point sitting on a Trendall wagon that’s never going going anywhere, unless you or Grendel feel like really going to work on it which doesn’t seem forthcoming. Just because we have 6 days doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have a sense of urgency about what we’re doing.

In post 466, Momrangal wrote:

In post 391, Luca Blight wrote:This NPOM wagon is awful.

I agree with this, but I'm curious to why you think trendall isn't getting lynched. There are multiple people who have expressed that slot being likely scum and next to OWER.

There are also multiple slots expressing concern over OWER, but instead the consensus seems to be nerfing the loudest voice in the game. I'm not joining the NPOM wagon, and I could drop a vote on either but I would much rather drop scum over town.

Because no-one is particularly pushing the Trendall wagon, and there are three more popular wagons on the table, two of which I think are pretty obviously better eliminations. I’m perhaps biased about Bugs due to meta, but I don’t get why you’d want Trendall eliminated over Lunar who just seems objectively scummy; just popping in every now and then, steering things in a certain direction with no follow-up, no train of thought, no explanation and while repeatedly avoiding questions.

In post 467, Momrangal wrote:Gamma, Frog, Grendel, amelie all expressed concerns over Trendall. Should they all move their vote there, he'll be at L-2

Gamma, NPOM, bug, Grendel, Luca I recall all had things to say about OWER. All votes being moved there puts him at L-1

So...?

Ifs and buts. These votes aren’t magically going to happen; I could make the same case that most of these players have expressed doubts about either Bugs/Lunar, who are both a lot closer to elimination.

In post 468, Momrangal wrote:

In post 463, NoPowerOverMe wrote:

In post 458, Lunar Martian wrote:

In post 456, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Ok, I was just making sure that the claim was bs like I thought it was.

The only people that have an issue with it are those outside the block.

Who are the five people in it?

Me
Galron
Grendal
Frog
Gamma

Frog is still pushing you as scum here, but I do agree. The pushes against you are not only crappy as fuck but they are targeted at the largest voice within the block and someone who, if left alive could win us the game

I’m surprised you don’t think the intensity of the NPOM wagon could be due to the fact that scum have been heavily wagoned themselves. To me it looks like a deliberate counter-wagon.

In post 471, Momrangal wrote:VOTE: OWER

well, ok. Your alignment should be telling after this

So you’d rather vote Outworld with your biggest SR rather than Bugs/Lunar?

What am I missing here? Why is Outworld a better elimination than Bugs/Lunar, and how do you read them?

In post 479, Luca Blight wrote:

In post 468, Momrangal wrote:

In post 463, NoPowerOverMe wrote:

In post 458, Lunar Martian wrote:

In post 456, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Ok, I was just making sure that the claim was bs like I thought it was.

The only people that have an issue with it are those outside the block.

Who are the five people in it?

Me
Galron
Grendal
Frog
Gamma

Frog is still pushing you as scum here, but I do agree. The pushes against you are not only crappy as fuck but they are targeted at the largest voice within the block and someone who, if left alive could win us the game

I’m surprised you don’t think the intensity of the NPOM wagon could be due to the fact that scum have been heavily wagoned themselves. To me it looks like a deliberate counter-wagon.

This is how it's starting to appear to me as well.

That is an interesting prospect, but not one I’m sure is worth fully entertaining rn. I myself have a hit-or-miss radar when it comes to wagonomics, but I’ll offer that I feel like I’m starting to hit more than miss these days.

hmmm... i was definitely considering the idea of Lunar just being nervous newer town that cant put words together under pressure. However revisiting his posts now i just feel like it very easliy comes from new scum that cant explain their pushes inthread. wheather is because the underlying motives are scummy, or if they cant fake content to blend in.

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Bug Spray i've cooled on a bit. Mostly because their paranoia of Scum!Luca is something I've been feeling more throughout the day as well. Also usally dont see scum make such a passive diversion when they are already getting heavily scrutinized.

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Trendel is still probably my strongest gut scum read, but i dont have to energy to really make anything happen there. It bothers me that Trendel has done net little today and yet their wagon never went past 2 votes tmk. I think claiming "this wagon has no traction therefore scum" is an overrated sentiment that i've been trying to move away from lately, but thats sorta how I feel about Trendel. :/

Also, Outerworld is scum lean still I guess. Im not sure about joining a wagon with Trendel/Momrangel tho.

What I don't like about Bugspray is he doesn't have much to say about his wagon. I feel like there is more merit to it than he is acknowledging. I'd like him to be more vocal so we can read him.

Tbh I did merely vote him because he was less active but I haven’t seen anything from him or anyone else that changes my mind

*thinking face*

VOTE: Lunar Martian

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Pre-edit--- Im less concerned about how Bug's Pray adderessing thier own wagon then I am about Bug's thoughts on other players. I feel like I only see a few developed reads from them, and idk what else is going on in their brain.

Would a heroic let a poor vulnerable town be eaten alive by bugs?!



I want to hear your thoughts on more players BugSpray. Help me out?

Requoting this incase you missed it. Im curious who you think it is as well.

In post 475, Luca Blight wrote:

In post 444, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If I were a betting person my guess would be 4 out of 5 are town.

I’m just curious, who in the townbloc do you think is most likely to be scum?

In post 464, Momrangal wrote:

In post 431, Gamma Emerald wrote:I could see any of bugs/LM/OWER being scum atm

Come do OWER with me then?

I'm still with him and trendall being my top two

In post 471, Momrangal wrote:VOTE: OWER

well, ok. Your alignment should be telling after this

The cart coming before the horse on this kinda bugs me
Why does it feel like you are testing the waters on voting OWER, mom?

In post 488, Grendel wrote:

@NoPower

Requoting this incase you missed it. Im curious who you think it is as well.

In post 475, Luca Blight wrote:

In post 444, NoPowerOverMe wrote:If I were a betting person my guess would be 4 out of 5 are town.

I’m just curious, who in the townbloc do you think is most likely to be scum?

Town


Scum

I am leaning towards kicking Galron out(my opinion) because apparently he doesn't want to be in it.

What is making me paranoid of Luca personally is that I feel that he's playing very similarly to how i approach games normally (going so far as to also reinforce some things i find to be optimal play). It almost feels like its a long term effort to buddy me, or perhaps incriminate me if he were to flip later?

It is bit left field, and maybe even egocentric. But its certainly a thing i do feel.

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Pre-edit Ahh, I see. Thanks No Power.

I think hes town tho

Gamma is the one i think i trust least out of that group. He's challenging to get a read on in general.

Have you played with him?

I have had some success reading Gamma.

I could see replacing Galron with Amelie if the rest of the bloc is up to it.

Gamma is a player i probably have the longest experience with. But my attempts to meta/gut read him have been pretty bad over the years.

Amelie i do think i TR about as much as Galreon atm

In post 491, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I am leaning towards kicking Galron out(my opinion) because apparently he doesn't want to be in it.

That’s not exactly good reason I think
Do you legitimately think Galron doesn’t to be in the townblock?

I think he is not enthusiastic about being in it, therefore may not help our cause.

In post 492, Grendel wrote:What is making me paranoid of Luca personally is that I feel that he's playing very similarly to how i approach games normally (going so far as to also reinforce some things i find to be optimal play). It almost feels like its a long term effort to buddy me, or perhaps incriminate me if he were to flip later?

It is bit left field, and maybe even egocentric. But its certainly a thing i do feel.

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Pre-edit Ahh, I see. Thanks No Power.

I think hes town tho

I don’t think that sort of play is one scum legitimately attempt often. It could happen on accident but it requires high-level mindgames to legitimately try to replicate someone else’s mindset with that in mind imo
But I believe you’re towny for trying to call it out